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andy108

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Guys who are waiting for an invite on the 18th of December Draw - please add your case to the Express Entry Tracker - so we know who has been invited and who has not been ivnited and what is the lowest score they went quickly: http://myimmitracker.com/canada-ee
 

Han

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andy108 said:
Guys who are waiting for an invite on the 18th of December Draw - please add your case to the Express Entry Tracker - so we know who has been invited and who has not been ivnited and what is the lowest score they went quickly: http://myimmitracker.com/canada-ee
It si done! I got an ITA 20 minutes ago!
 

doravmon

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Got an ITA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

mf4361

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kainthsimranjit said:
I totally agree with you. Over here, Canadian companies value Canadian education and experience much more as compared to other foreign experience. So, there is not point in not selecting those deserving candidates below 450. By the way, I have received my PR via EE system but still believe it is skewed a lot.

I believe pretty soon the new Liberal government would realize that the job bank system is not working for EE. The previous government relied on that a lot and hoped that deserving people would get job and the valued 600 points. I am seeing a revival of CEC and also a NOC list coming in future. Again, that's my personal guesses.
This.

Company treats Canadian experiences more than almost anything. At least in many technical fields, there are many Canadian-specific standards of doing things that cannot be transferred with years of foreign experiences. Many immigrants from 90s came with a professional license could not land a job not because they are not recognized, but because their past experiences don't count in the eyes of employers. CRS point system completely ignores that.

To Canadian companies, there is no such thing as USA work or UK work or Indonesia work experience, there's only Canadian work experiences or not Canadian. (For those who argues some countries is unambiguously better than Canada)
 

JK_CAD

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rajibsam said:
Got ITA with 477 points. What is the cutoff this time?
460
 

JoacRy

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The cutoff is 460 points. My congratulations to everyone who got an ITA. Genuinely hope all of you are successful.
 

kateg

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Baljas said:
Cic are loosing out great skilled class workers by not picking up people 444 onwards. I can't believe people who strived in this country has to beg for pr after years of work and hardwork..
Permanent Residency is an offer that gets made, not a right. It's not your job to beg - it's theirs to decide whom to extend an invitation to.

As for the wait time, you can thank Stephen Harper for how amazingly quick the system now is. There are still people waiting 5+ years after applying for Permanent Residency under the old system.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/perm/skilled-fed.asp

It was 8 years, and it was on track to hit 15 if things kept continuing.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/notice-transform2.asp
 

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kateg said:
Permanent Residency is an offer that gets made, not a right. It's not your job to beg - it's theirs to decide whom to extend an invitation to.

As for the wait time, you can thank Stephen Harper for how amazingly quick the system now is. There are still people waiting 5+ years after applying for Permanent Residency under the old system.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/perm/skilled-fed.asp

It was 8 years, and it was on track to hit 15 if things kept continuing.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/notice-transform2.asp
i would take 5 years over not being able to apply at all. Right now the wait is still there just on our dime not on CIC's dime. people may stay for years in the EE system till they get ITA so no difference. but now there is added issue that we may never get an ITA which was not the case is previous CEC system. I dont see improvement of wait times i see a blame game. there are other flaws in the system but thats not related to wait times so not going into it. So Mr Harper screwed some of us so no thanks. Good god thanks they got rid of harper
 

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sraj07

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mf4361 ,

You are correct .. Either Canadian exp or non -Canadian exp ... Eventhough I have 4 yrs of USA work exp,, I feel it will be of no use when we search for job in Canada .
 

fkl

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No where government of Canada or immigration EVER claimed work permit is the path to immigration.

I agree it is some what odd since people with PGWP and even jobs didn't get ITAs or enough scores.

However, the real motivation to the best of my understanding for the government is to give priority to people with jobs - (this was clearly written in EE mandate) because of all horror stories of educated people being brought to Canada on immigration and failing to find decent positions.

Now the unfortunate consequence of this is, just claiming "I have a job offer" isn't practical.

It opens up too many ways for people to cheat. Hence the best check Immigration could put on this was - LMIA based jobs which PGWP holders obviously do not have and suffer.

But if we go by this logic, there is an even more deserving lot of people (so called) which also suffer.

All LMIA exempt positions (including those who are Post Doc researchers or professors at universities) as well as specialists at big name companies which are generally far more qualified and experienced than a mere Canadian fresh grad, also do not get that 600 and hence are treated the same way.

To me, the above category is even more under represented this way since again they are working on positions that already didn't have qualified Canadians - which is why those roles were exempted from LMIA in the first place.

But i hope CIC and government would also realize this eventually and get around this.

Moreover, the 450 barrier was broken already (kind of) and most of PGWP holders would have made it when scores came down.

Scores started going up again since the addition of PNP's since those contain even people who are abroad but still applied in time with the basic requirements of the province and got through.

These are some of the imbalances created via this system which i hope CIC would improve with time. But overall i believe it is a good system of faster processing and prioritizing skills that are needed / already established in Canada.
 

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fkl said:
No where government of Canada or immigration EVER claimed work permit is the path to immigration.

I agree it is some what odd since people with PGWP and even jobs didn't get ITAs or enough scores.

However, the real motivation to the best of my understanding for the government is to give priority to people with jobs - (this was clearly written in EE mandate) because of all horror stories of educated people being brought to Canada on immigration and failing to find decent positions.

Now the unfortunate consequence of this is, just claiming "I have a job offer" isn't practical.

It opens up too many ways for people to cheat. Hence the best check Immigration could put on this was - LMIA based jobs which PGWP holders obviously do not have and suffer.

But if we go by this logic, there is an even more deserving lot of people (so called) which also suffer.

All LMIA exempt positions (including those who are Post Doc researchers or professors at universities) as well as specialists at big name companies which are generally far more qualified and experienced than a mere Canadian fresh grad, also do not get that 600 and hence are treated the same way.

To me, the above category is even more under represented this way since again they are working on positions that already didn't have qualified Canadians - which is why those roles were exempted from LMIA in the first place.

But i hope CIC and government would also realize this eventually and get around this.

Moreover, the 450 barrier was broken already (kind of) and most of PGWP holders would have made it when scores came down.

Scores started going up again since the addition of PNP's since those contain even people who are abroad but still applied in time with the basic requirements of the province and got through.

These are some of the imbalances created via this system which i hope CIC would improve with time. But overall i believe it is a good system of faster processing and prioritizing skills that are needed / already established in Canada.
New rules make it 'nearly impossible' for employers to keep foreign graduates on staff.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/small-business/sb-managing/human-resources/new-rules-make-it-nearly-impossible-for-employers-to-keep-foreign-graduates-on-staff/article27681309/?click=sf_globefb
 

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avm said:
New rules make it 'nearly impossible' for employers to keep foreign graduates on staff.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/small-business/sb-managing/human-resources/new-rules-make-it-nearly-impossible-for-employers-to-keep-foreign-graduates-on-staff/article27681309/?click=sf_globefb
Yeah that's true unfortunately. But it is also a bigger problem in Canada. A lot of generally qualified people don't have jobs - those who already have PRs. I just hope they improve it some how.

Of course the exception is there for qualifications which get people LMIA since that is the only role that CIC currently sees as not affecting those local existent population which is qualified too.

They believe that just by graduating from here and although being good, doesn't mean one should be competing with equal leverage with an existing PR / Citizen.

It is not a question of fairness - it is a question of changing economics of a country. They worry more about their existing population - specially the qualified ones without jobs. This was not the case a while back when Canada had smaller population and better jobs. Right now - people are loosing jobs and temp workers, students - every one coming from abroad and getting jobs - is under fire from existing residents.

And i don't blame them. Please note that i am also on the receiving end i.e. am not a PR or a citizen. I just understand the roots of these policies.
 

kateg

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mead said:
i would take 5 years over not being able to apply at all. Right now the wait is still there just on our dime not on CIC's dime.
Given the application fee, the people waiting 5 years are having it done on their dime.

Getting permanent residency is faster, and easier for qualified applicants. The sooner we get Permanent Residency, the sooner Citizenship becomes an option.

Why is it better to wait in limbo with no application, than to wait a shorter time to apply?