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Application Stages + What They Mean (MEP, IP1, IP2, Ghost Update...) - Version 2019

PNP@EE

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AOR Received.
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Med's Request
22/04/2019 BIL done
Med's Done....
16/04/2019 passed
Hello friends. Can anyone pls give me and idea about the details mentioned below.

1st profile/application updated apr 11
2nd profile/application updated Apr 16 ( MEDS AND BIL)
3rd profile/application updated May 22 (Morning) (90 days completed) no email notification
4th profile/application updated May 22 (Evening) no email notification

5 th profile/update may 23 with email notifications.

We are processing your application. We will send you a message when there is an update or if we need more information from you.

Make sure you read your messages and take action when we ask you to. This will help move the application process along. ( NEW LINES ADDED TODAY)

ANY idea what it might be , Pls suggestions



Thanks
 

Fias34

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Hello friends. Can anyone pls give me and idea about the details mentioned below.

1st profile/application updated apr 11
2nd profile/application updated Apr 16 ( MEDS AND BIL)
3rd profile/application updated May 22 (Morning) (90 days completed) no email notification
4th profile/application updated May 22 (Evening) no email notification

5 th profile/update may 23 with email notifications.

We are processing your application. We will send you a message when there is an update or if we need more information from you.

Make sure you read your messages and take action when we ask you to. This will help move the application process along. ( NEW LINES ADDED TODAY)

ANY idea what it might be , Pls suggestions



Thanks
Make sure you read your messages and take action when we ask you to. This will help move the application process along. (This is auto generated update for all applicants after 90 days it's changing in every account)

Did you notice anything else after your 5th profile/application update? I hope you should receive PPR email
 

PNP@EE

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Apr 23, 2019
62
10
canada
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
6321
Nomination.....
22/12/2018
AOR Received.
21/02/2019
Med's Request
22/04/2019 BIL done
Med's Done....
16/04/2019 passed
Make sure you read your messages and take action when we ask you to. This will help move the application process along. (This is auto generated update for all applicants after 90 days it's changing in every account)

Did you notice anything else after your 5th profile/application update? I hope you should receive PPR email
Thanks @Fias34 for ur response

I don’t see any visible changes even after my 5 th update. It looks same. Hope I get good news soon.

Thanks
 

PNP@EE

Star Member
Apr 23, 2019
62
10
canada
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
6321
Nomination.....
22/12/2018
AOR Received.
21/02/2019
Med's Request
22/04/2019 BIL done
Med's Done....
16/04/2019 passed
Hello friends. Can anyone pls give me and idea about the details mentioned below.

1st profile/application updated apr 11
2nd profile/application updated Apr 16 ( MEDS AND BIL)
3rd profile/application updated May 22 (Morning) (90 days completed) no email notification
4th profile/application updated May 22 (Evening) no email notification

5 th profile/update may 23 with email notifications.

We are processing your application. We will send you a message when there is an update or if we need more information from you.

Make sure you read your messages and take action when we ask you to. This will help move the application process along. ( NEW LINES ADDED TODAY)

ANY idea what it might be , Pls suggestions



Thanks

latest update in my application

1st profile/application updated apr 11
2nd profile/application updated Apr 16 ( MEDS AND BIL)
3rd profile/application updated May 22 (Morning) (90 days completed) no email notification (Ghost Update)
4th profile/application updated May 22 (Evening) no email notification (Ghost update)

5 th profile/update may 23 with email notifications.
6 th profile/update may 28 (no email notification) Ghost update

Thanks

pls any suggetions..
 

kapoor11

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Apr 16, 2019
14
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@derkdsou Thanks a lot for putting this together, it's extremely helpful! Just had a few questions regarding my application. It would be great if you could help me get some idea

CEC Inland Application, no dependents.

ITA: March 6, 2019
AoR: April 9, 2019
MEP: May 22, 2019 Note: Right after this my background check changed to "We are processing your background check. We will send you a message if we need more information" Not sure if this means I went straight to IP2 and skipped IP1?
Update by Email: May 23, 2019 (I think this was for passing the medical, it just showed up a day later in my inbox. Apparently, this is very normal and people usually get this update a day after medical passed reflects on their application)
Ghost Update: May 29,2019. My application said it has been updated but none of the fields had changed. There was no email for this. Again, not sure what this means and which stage I'm at?

Please let me know whenever you have a moment, thanks in advance! :)
 

Th2k

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Nov 20, 2018
67
3
IRCC has introduced a number of changes in recent months and it is time to update our understanding of the post-AOR stages. I am simply building on the amazing work of @northern sunshine in developing an explanation of the various stages we can use - informally - to track the progress of our application. Huge thanks in particular to @USProgrammer who has posited the underlying trends and found evidence for them. In short, the traditional transition from IP1 to IP2 to ghost update to PPR still holds but in a modified way due to these changes.

From 31 Dec 2018, everyone except for Inland candidates has to provide their biometrics which means the default starting stage applicants will see for their Background Check is ‘IP2’ (“We are processing your background check…”), however, this is a ‘False IP2’, meaning an IP2 that has appeared before it is actually due as the application has not in fact progressed to the IP2 stage yet.

If you have an AOR of 31 Dec 2018 or later, follow the chart below to track your progress. Candidates will remain in a state of 'False IP2' throughout their application and only see a series of 'ghost updates' following their MEP; the first such ghost update (which should follow shortly after MEP) will signify your Real IP1, the second ghost update will signify your Real IP2, and the third will be your ‘Final’ Ghost Update, following which you are likely to receive your PPR.

If you have an AOR date of up to 30 Dec 2018
, the chart also applies to you if you meet one or more of these conditions: you are a CEC or PNP-Inland candidate, you were required to provide your biometrics or you did not pay your RPRF upfront.

Note for FSW-Outland candidates who have an AOR date of up to 30 Dec 2018: If you did not need to provide biometrics and paid your RPRF upfront, the old transition from NA1 all the way to a Final Ghost Update will still apply to you. Your Background Check should have started in NA1 ("Not Applicable" 1), meaning your Background Check status said "Not Applicable" right after you submitted your application.

General:
EE
- Express Entry: Canada's score-based program for economic immigrants
CRS - Comprehensive Ranking System: System for ranking candidates for EE
ITA - Invitation to Apply: an invitation to apply for permanent residence
e-APR - electronic Application for Permanent Residence: the online application for PR after receiving an ITA
RPRF - Right of Permanent Residence Fee: a fee collected as part of your PR application
AOR - Acknowledgement of Receipt (of application): email confirming receipt of your application after you submit and pay your fees
ADR - Additional Document Request: IRCC sends a message asking you to provide a specific document to supplement your application.

Post-submission stages:
False IP2
- Usually right from AOR or just after MEP. Background Check shows "We are processing your background check. We will send you a message if we need more information.”
MEP - Medicals passed: review of medical results changes from "You do not need a medical exam." to "You have passed the medical exam." There is no email for MEP.
Ghost Update - When you log in, the application says it's been "updated" but none of the fields have changed. Once you logout and log back in, the application returns to being "submitted". Ghost updates are not announced by email and a candidate must check their profile daily to not miss them.
Ghost Update #1 or Real IP1 - "In progress" 1: Background Check changes to "Your application is in progress. We will send you a message when we start your background check." Usually follows MEP. Some applicants (especially Inland and CEC) skip this stage. You should receive an email for your Real IP1 - the email will not provide any details, just that your application has been updated.
NA2 - "Not Applicable" 2: Background Check changes to "Not Applicable" again after IP1. Some applicants skip this stage and it is easily missed. No email.
Ghost Update #2 or Real IP2 - "In progress" 2: Background Check changes to "We are processing your background check. We will send you a message if we need more information." No email.
NA3 - "Not Applicable" 3: Background Check changes to "Not Applicable" again after IP2 (uncommon).
Ghost Update #3 or Final Ghost Update - Often considered a sign that PPR is coming soon. Not seen by all applicants.
PPR - Passport request: IRCC sends "Ready for visa" e-mail asking you to submit your documents to your visa office so they can issue your CoPR and entry visa if applicable. A PPR is announced only by email, and there may be no changes made directly to the profile. If you are worried you might miss it, you can whitelist the email domain @cic.gc.ca to ensure the email comes straight to your inbox.
CoPR - Confirmation of Permanent Residence: A document that says you've been approved for permanent residence.

Other notes:
1. The ‘eligibility’ and ‘final decision’ fields in your profile will not change to passed until after you receive your CoPR. This is an example of what a profile may look like following a CoPR.
2. Remember that these are not "official" stages, but they are used frequently throughout the forum to track the processing of applications.

This is a combined effort of @northern sunshine, @USProgrammer and myself. Please share your feedback - it is likely we have missed a few things!
Can i get refusal between ghost update #2 and ghost update #3?
 

Immigration_guru

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Apr 26, 2019
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Can i get refusal between ghost update #2 and ghost update #3?
Check eligibility, if that is cleared the chances of refusal is less. The only huddle would be security.
So check the stage and note the ghost update
 
May 16, 2019
17
4
Canada
Category........
QSW
Visa Office......
Sydney NS
App. Filed.......
06-12-2017
AOR Received.
20-02-2018
IRCC has introduced a number of changes in recent months and it is time to update our understanding of the post-AOR stages. I am simply building on the amazing work of @northern sunshine in developing an explanation of the various stages we can use - informally - to track the progress of our application. Huge thanks in particular to @USProgrammer who has posited the underlying trends and found evidence for them. In short, the traditional transition from IP1 to IP2 to ghost update to PPR still holds but in a modified way due to these changes.

From 31 Dec 2018, everyone except for Inland candidates has to provide their biometrics which means the default starting stage applicants will see for their Background Check is ‘IP2’ (“We are processing your background check…”), however, this is a ‘False IP2’, meaning an IP2 that has appeared before it is actually due as the application has not in fact progressed to the IP2 stage yet.

If you have an AOR of 31 Dec 2018 or later, follow the chart below to track your progress. Candidates will remain in a state of 'False IP2' throughout their application and only see a series of 'ghost updates' following their MEP; the first such ghost update (which should follow shortly after MEP) will signify your Real IP1, the second ghost update will signify your Real IP2, and the third will be your ‘Final’ Ghost Update, following which you are likely to receive your PPR.

If you have an AOR date of up to 30 Dec 2018
, the chart also applies to you if you meet one or more of these conditions: you are a CEC or PNP-Inland candidate, you were required to provide your biometrics or you did not pay your RPRF upfront.

Note for FSW-Outland candidates who have an AOR date of up to 30 Dec 2018: If you did not need to provide biometrics and paid your RPRF upfront, the old transition from NA1 all the way to a Final Ghost Update will still apply to you. Your Background Check should have started in NA1 ("Not Applicable" 1), meaning your Background Check status said "Not Applicable" right after you submitted your application.

General:
EE
- Express Entry: Canada's score-based program for economic immigrants
CRS - Comprehensive Ranking System: System for ranking candidates for EE
ITA - Invitation to Apply: an invitation to apply for permanent residence
e-APR - electronic Application for Permanent Residence: the online application for PR after receiving an ITA
RPRF - Right of Permanent Residence Fee: a fee collected as part of your PR application
AOR - Acknowledgement of Receipt (of application): email confirming receipt of your application after you submit and pay your fees
ADR - Additional Document Request: IRCC sends a message asking you to provide a specific document to supplement your application.

Post-submission stages:
False IP2
- Usually right from AOR or just after MEP. Background Check shows "We are processing your background check. We will send you a message if we need more information.”
MEP - Medicals passed: review of medical results changes from "You do not need a medical exam." to "You have passed the medical exam." There is no email for MEP.
Ghost Update - When you log in, the application says it's been "updated" but none of the fields have changed. Once you logout and log back in, the application returns to being "submitted". Ghost updates are not announced by email and a candidate must check their profile daily to not miss them.
Ghost Update #1 or Real IP1 - "In progress" 1: Background Check changes to "Your application is in progress. We will send you a message when we start your background check." Usually follows MEP. Some applicants (especially Inland and CEC) skip this stage. You should receive an email for your Real IP1 - the email will not provide any details, just that your application has been updated.
NA2 - "Not Applicable" 2: Background Check changes to "Not Applicable" again after IP1. Some applicants skip this stage and it is easily missed. No email.
Ghost Update #2 or Real IP2 - "In progress" 2: Background Check changes to "We are processing your background check. We will send you a message if we need more information." No email.
NA3 - "Not Applicable" 3: Background Check changes to "Not Applicable" again after IP2 (uncommon).
Ghost Update #3 or Final Ghost Update - Often considered a sign that PPR is coming soon. Not seen by all applicants.
PPR - Passport request: IRCC sends "Ready for visa" e-mail asking you to submit your documents to your visa office so they can issue your CoPR and entry visa if applicable. A PPR is announced only by email, and there may be no changes made directly to the profile. If you are worried you might miss it, you can whitelist the email domain @cic.gc.ca to ensure the email comes straight to your inbox.
CoPR - Confirmation of Permanent Residence: A document that says you've been approved for permanent residence.

Other notes:
1. The ‘eligibility’ and ‘final decision’ fields in your profile will not change to passed until after you receive your CoPR. This is an example of what a profile may look like following a CoPR.
2. Remember that these are not "official" stages, but they are used frequently throughout the forum to track the processing of applications.

This is a combined effort of @northern sunshine, @USProgrammer and myself. Please share your feedback - it is likely we have missed a few things!
Guys, just be cautious about getting excited with these ghost updates.
I say this from my own experience.
I noticed a ghost update 3 days ago and from what I know from my GCMS notes it would be the ghost update #3 (I have eligibility, criminality and medical passed).
Today I saw that the information updated on my application was an increase of 1 month on the estimated completion date (the ridiculous progress bar they implemented).
 

derkdsou

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Your PPR could be near, or it may be that your application is approved and your VO tends to send out PPRs in batches, irrespective of when an application was approved. If I were you, I would call IRCC to find out the status of my application following that last ghost update. The ghost update can and does work as a harbinger of PPR, and this has been confirmed empirically over and over again.

Guys, just be cautious about getting excited with these ghost updates.
I say this from my own experience.
I noticed a ghost update 3 days ago and from what I know from my GCMS notes it would be the ghost update #3 (I have eligibility, criminality and medical passed).
Today I saw that the information updated on my application was an increase of 1 month on the estimated completion date (the ridiculous progress bar they implemented).
 
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May 16, 2019
17
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Canada
Category........
QSW
Visa Office......
Sydney NS
App. Filed.......
06-12-2017
AOR Received.
20-02-2018
Your PPR could be near, or it may be that your application is approved and your VO tends to send out PPRs in batches, irrespective of when an application was approved. If I were you, I would call IRCC to find out the status of my application following that last ghost update. The ghost update can and does work as a harbinger of PPR, and this has been confirmed empirically over and over again.
I really hope you are right but I don't want to create any more expectations since I am a Québec applicant.
 
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northern sunshine

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App. Filed.......
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AOR Received.
12-06-2018
Med's Done....
02-06-2018
Passport Req..
26-07-2018
LANDED..........
23-02-2019
@derkdsou I just saw a very interesting thing when I logged in to my GC key account today as I was trying to answer someone else's question. They actually posted the dates when each of my sections were completed! I was like, "Oh, whatever, nothing new here" until I saw the background check section. July 10 was the day I hit IP2 and got the "how to find a job in Canada" message. Wow! To think, we would have gleaned so much information from this last year when I was applying.

Details about your application status
When we get your application, there are a series of steps it may go through before we make a decision. Use the following table to find out the current status of each application step.

Review of eligibility
  • July 26, 2018 Your eligibility has been reviewed. Please see the final decision below.
Review of medical results
  • June 26, 2018 You passed the medical exam.
Review of additional documents
  • We do not need additional documents.
Interview
  • You do not need an interview. We will send you a message if this changes.
Biometrics
  • We do not need your fingerprints. We will send you a message if this changes.
Background check
  • July 10, 2018 Your background check was completed.
Final decisionHelp - Final decision
  • August 20, 2018 Your application was approved. Check your messages below for details.

Edit: Took out the cute little icons that accompanied each section because they became enormous when posted.
 

mbaleine

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Wonder if the dates get updated/published as steps get finished..

So far I only know that I'm at MEP and I can see my MEP date. Will be curious to see if my Biometrics section gets a date after I go for my biometrics next week.

@derkdsou I just saw a very interesting thing when I logged in to my GC key account today as I was trying to answer someone else's question. They actually posted the dates when each of my sections were completed! I was like, "Oh, whatever, nothing new here" until I saw the background check section. July 10 was the day I hit IP2 and got the "how to find a job in Canada" message. Wow! To think, we would have gleaned so much information from this last year when I was applying.

Details about your application status
When we get your application, there are a series of steps it may go through before we make a decision. Use the following table to find out the current status of each application step.

Review of eligibility
  • July 26, 2018 Your eligibility has been reviewed. Please see the final decision below.
Review of medical results
  • June 26, 2018 You passed the medical exam.
Review of additional documents
  • We do not need additional documents.
Interview
  • You do not need an interview. We will send you a message if this changes.
Biometrics
  • We do not need your fingerprints. We will send you a message if this changes.
Background check
  • July 10, 2018 Your background check was completed.
Final decisionHelp - Final decision
  • August 20, 2018 Your application was approved. Check your messages below for details.

Edit: Took out the cute little icons that accompanied each section because they became enormous when posted.
 

northern sunshine

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App. Filed.......
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AOR Received.
12-06-2018
Med's Done....
02-06-2018
Passport Req..
26-07-2018
LANDED..........
23-02-2019
Wonder if the dates get updated/published as steps get finished..

So far I only know that I'm at MEP and I can see my MEP date. Will be curious to see if my Biometrics section gets a date after I go for my biometrics next week.
I am assuming they will-- this seems to be a new thing as of the past couple months, but I'm hoping they'll keep it updated for those who are in the process. The background check part especially has me excited, because that's been such a mysterious entity.
 
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Roula soliman

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By email only. It's in the definition of a PPR.

  1. Hello dear,

    Hope you are doing well and thanks in advance for your help, much appreciated.

    I need your valuable help please :
    Iam 17 Jan AOR

    I have got 3 ghosts:
    First one on 16 may with BG change to " in progress:
    Second one on 28 May with BG change to "we are processing".
    And 3 rd one on 30 may , without any change in BG.
    After 2 hours , i got an email for ADR.
    ADR submitted on 31 may, ADR status became " your documents are uploaded".
    Then in 3rd Jun ,the ADR status changed to " we start reviewing the documents that you provided".

    What do you think please?

    What were those ghosts and is it normal that my ADR didn't go to NA.
    Merci beaucoup.
    Have a lovely day.

    Rola


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