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So, here are my calculations and thought:

MonthCOPRs CECCOPRs CEC
ImmiTracker
COPRs FSWCOPRs FSW
ImmiTracker
COPRs PNPCOPRs PNP
ImmiTracker
Backlog CEC
on Oct, 27
Backlog FSW
on Oct, 27
Backlog PNP
on Oct, 27
Sep, 202114364664687183419???
Oct, 202114282575863159614482255114771509
Nov, 2021?33?43?20???

There're two main interesting points, as I think:
1) The fact is that we don't know the actual number of persons per application, so it's hard to calculate how the backlog reduces. Someone have 0 dependend relatives, someone has more than 5. For further calculations, let us think that an average application has 2 persons in total. As a result, there will be just 1 COPRs for both of them. So, according to this estimation, the data for November should approximately be:

MonthCOPRs CECCOPRs FSWCOPRs PNPBacklog CECBacklog FSWBacklog PNP
Oct, 2021142825861596482255114771509
Nov, 2021???196614997568317

According to my calculations, it's highly likely, that almost half of applications stuck in the CEC backlog was finalized in November. If the tempo remains the same, it will probably take amout 1 month to clear the CEC backlog if the COPR issuing tempo doesn't fall.

2) According to the data from ImmiTracker the number of issued COPRs for FSW increased in about 10 times. So, let's make a prediction:
MonthCOPRs FSWCOPRs PNPBacklog FSWBacklog PNP
Oct, 202158615965114771509
Nov, 2021 (prediction)586015963942768317
Dec, 2021 (prediction)586015962770765125
Jan, 2022 (prediction)586015961598761933
Feb, 2022 (prediction)58601596426758741

Well, of course we should take into account that is an extremely rough prediction. I think that there's a chance that the FSW backlog may be cleared around March, 2022, if the current tendency remains.
Nevertheless, as we all know, IRCC can re-assign its officers from one program to another, so only God knows what to expect.

So, I see the picture this way:
- The CEC backlog may be cleared in Jan, 2022.
- All officers responsible for CEC may be re-assigned for finalizing PNP and FSW applications.
- Thus, the FSW and PNP backlogs will have been cleared by March, 2022.
- So, new FSW ITAs may be expected in March-April.
You forgot to consider a very important factor. “Omicron”. Canada being the shit third world country that it is will probably close borders again and all pending EE apps will be canceled for sure this time. Only some kangaroos who are extremely impatient will be allowed to cross the border if they promised to be good boys and not bite the hand that feeds them
 
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vada pav

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So, here are my calculations and thought:

MonthCOPRs CECCOPRs CEC
ImmiTracker
COPRs FSWCOPRs FSW
ImmiTracker
COPRs PNPCOPRs PNP
ImmiTracker
Backlog CEC
on Oct, 27
Backlog FSW
on Oct, 27
Backlog PNP
on Oct, 27
Sep, 202114364664687183419???
Oct, 202114282575863159614482255114771509
Nov, 2021?33?43?20???

There're two main interesting points, as I think:
1) The fact is that we don't know the actual number of persons per application, so it's hard to calculate how the backlog reduces. Someone have 0 dependend relatives, someone has more than 5. For further calculations, let us think that an average application has 2 persons in total. As a result, there will be just 1 COPRs for both of them. So, according to this estimation, the data for November should approximately be:

MonthCOPRs CECCOPRs FSWCOPRs PNPBacklog CECBacklog FSWBacklog PNP
Oct, 2021142825861596482255114771509
Nov, 2021???196614997568317

According to my calculations, it's highly likely, that almost half of applications stuck in the CEC backlog was finalized in November. If the tempo remains the same, it will probably take amout 1 month to clear the CEC backlog if the COPR issuing tempo doesn't fall.

2) According to the data from ImmiTracker the number of issued COPRs for FSW increased in about 10 times. So, let's make a prediction:
MonthCOPRs FSWCOPRs PNPBacklog FSWBacklog PNP
Oct, 202158615965114771509
Nov, 2021 (prediction)586015963942768317
Dec, 2021 (prediction)586015962770765125
Jan, 2022 (prediction)586015961598761933
Feb, 2022 (prediction)58601596426758741

Well, of course we should take into account that is an extremely rough prediction. I think that there's a chance that the FSW backlog may be cleared around March, 2022, if the current tendency remains.
Nevertheless, as we all know, IRCC can re-assign its officers from one program to another, so only God knows what to expect.

So, I see the picture this way:
- The CEC backlog may be cleared in Jan, 2022.
- All officers responsible for CEC may be re-assigned for finalizing PNP and FSW applications.
- Thus, the FSW and PNP backlogs will have been cleared by March, 2022.
- So, new FSW ITAs may be expected in March-April.
Commendable analysis, Vlad.
 
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Canada's Trudeau to limit new spending in fiscal update - source

OTTAWA, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government will outline limited new spending in a fiscal update to be released later this month, a source said on Thursday, as inflation soars and some business groups and opposition politicians call for restraint.

Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland on Thursday told lawmakers the so-called fall fiscal update would be released on Dec 14. The update will be "limited in scope", a source familiar with the drafting of the document told Reuters.

This fiscal update will be similar to those released following the 2015 and 2019 elections, the source said. Other years when elections were not held, the fiscal update has been more substantial, like a mini-budget.

After COVID-19 supports for businesses and individuals produced the highest deficit since World War Two last year, Trudeau during his campaign pledged C$78 billion ($60.9 billion)in new spending over five years to foster Canada's economic rebound.

"This will be an update on where the nation's finances are right now," the source said of the document. "We certainly have an ambitious plan that we will continue to move forward on. That's why you have a budget."

The government is expected to release its 2022-23 fiscal-year budget during the first part of next year. Inflation is at an 18-year high and is being driven mainly by supply chain problems and energy price gains, but some fear more government spending will make it worse.

This year's budget included C$101 billion investments over three years.

"There's a major concern that people have about the level of government spending, and whether or not it is fueling inflation and fueling demand," said Perrin Beatty, president and CEO of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce.

The prospect of rising interest rates next year, as signaled by the Bank of Canada, will increase the servicing costs on the country's debt, Beatty said.

'JUSTIN-FLATION'

Pierre Poilievre, the finance critic for the opposition Conservative Party, blames Trudeau for stoking inflation, which he calls "Justin-flation", with excessive government spending.

"We're going to be prudent," a second source familiar with the government's plans said.

"The prudent thing is to wait and just see how the next couple of months unfold and you always reserve the option in the winter budget to do more," said Rebekah Young, director, fiscal and provincial economics at Scotiabank. "It's harder to roll back than it is to roll out more programs in the winter."

Already in October, Freeland indicated Canada would significantly scale back spending on pandemic support programs now that more than 85% of the eligible population was vaccinated against COVID-19.

"A combination of strong revenue recovery and fiscal restraint would put the federal debt and broader general government debt each on a faster reduction course," Kelli Bissett-Tom, Fitch's director of Americas sovereign ratings, said on Thursday.

Fitch Ratings was the only ratings agency to strip Canada of a triple-A credit rating during the pandemic.

In April, Freeland said debt as a percentage of output would progressively decline, providing a fiscal anchor going forward. In the budget, debt was forecast to be 51.2% of gross domestic product this fiscal year, falling to 50.7% the following year.

Revenues were up C$47 billion, or 36.5%, in the April-September period, according to the Department of Finance.

There was no immediate comment from the prime minister's office. The finance ministry declined to comment.
 

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Canadian airports warn of 'chaos' amid new COVID-19 testing rules

TORONTO, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Canada's plan to require novel coronavirus tests for all but U.S. arrivals on international flights risks causing "chaos" and long lines if all passengers are expected to get tested at airports, industry groups said.

The move, announced Tuesday, comes as the travel season kicks into gear and could stretch airport resources as well as testing holiday-makers' patience, they said.

Daniel Gooch, president of the Canadian Airports Council, said airports cannot test all overseas arrivals on-site without long wait times.

"Do we really want people waiting for hours for a test in a customs hall?" he asked by phone on Wednesday.

"We want to avoid chaos. And we want to ensure that travellers who have booked trips are comfortable to travel."

Canada on Tuesday said it will require people arriving internationally by air, except from the United States, to take a COVID-19 test, seeking to halt the spread of the Omicron coronavirus variant. read more

Currently, only randomly selected passengers from international flights are tested at airports by private companies the government contracts.

The announcement came as the country's aviation sector, battered by the pandemic, had been looking forward to a stronger holiday season this year.

Canadian public health authorities did not say Wednesday when the policy will come into effect, who will administer the tests or whether the tests will be administered on-site or through take-home kits.

Airports are pushing for the latter.

Tori Gass, a spokesperson for Toronto's Pearson International Airport - Canada's largest - said in an email that "a combination of onsite and off-airport testing must be considered to accommodate the volume of tests contemplated."

Some travellers, meanwhile, who had rushed to book trips amid loosening restrictions just weeks before, were having second thoughts.

"I know various clients who have decided to cancel and are now looking at what refunds they'll be able to get," said Marty Firestone with Travel Secure insurance, adding that the travel landscape had been getting better.

"Now we've taken two steps back," he said.

 

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Express Entry: IRCC finalizing over 14,000 CEC applications, and under 600 FSWP applications, per month
The Canadian Experience Class (CEC) accounts for 85 per cent of finalized Express Entry applications in 2021.

New IRCC data shows how the department is currently prioritizing Express Entry applications.

The data represents the number of permanent residence applications submitted under Express Entry that have been approved by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada.

Express Entry is the main way Canada welcomes economic class skilled immigrants. Candidates that meet the criteria of an Express Entry program can submit their profile onto IRCC’s website. Candidates receive a Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) score based on human capital criteria such as their age, education, language skills, and work experience. Approximately every two weeks, IRCC invites the highest scoring candidates to apply for permanent residence. Such candidates then have 60 days to submit their permanent residence application to IRCC. Once IRCC approves the application, a candidate receives a Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR) which enables them to officially land in Canada as a permanent residence. The landing process can entail a COPR holder that was residing in Canada as a temporary resident converting their legal status to permanent residence. It can also entail an individual arriving from abroad with their COPR to become a permanent resident.

IRCC has made significant changes to its Express Entry policies amid the pandemic. The department is currently pursuing a plan to land 401,000 new permanent residents this year. At the start of 2021, it made the decision to focus on transitioning more temporary residents to permanent residence to give it a better shot of achieving its 401,000 immigrant target. As a result, it has only invited Canadian Experience Class (CEC) and Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) candidates under Express Entry this year. This is a major departure from precedent since the Federal Skilled Worker Program (FSWP) accounted for some 45 per cent of successful Express Entry candidates before the pandemic. IRCC has made this temporary shift in policy for two reasons. First, it argues that because some 90 per cent of CEC candidates currently reside in Canada during the pandemic, they are less likely to face COVID-related disruptions that would impede their ability to complete their permanent residence landings in 2021. Second, IRCC continues to invite PNP candidates to help provinces across the country address their labour market needs.

Another impact of this shift is IRCC has not been inviting the highest-ranking candidates among the entire Express Entry pool, as it did prior to the pandemic, but rather it has invited the highest-ranking CEC and PNP candidates. This has caused overall CRS cut-off scores to decline as the department aimed to invite as many CEC candidates as possible to support its immigration target for this year. The most notable draw of the year came on February 13 when IRCC invited 27,332 CEC candidates to apply for permanent residence, a feat it achieved by setting the CRS cut-off score at just 75. To put this into perspective, this draw was almost six times larger than the previous record (Express Entry has existed since 2015), and the cut-off score was nearly 400 points lower than what it usually was prior to the pandemic.

CIC News has obtained data from IRCC showing that the CEC is accounting for some 85 per cent of all finalized Express Entry applications this year. Between January and October, IRCC issued COPRs to 108,860 CEC applicants. The department has issued 12,514 COPRs to PNP candidates (about 10 per cent of all COPRs issued to Express Entry applicants this year).

The group most negatively impacted are FSWP candidates. They are recipients of just 6,795 COPRs this year. This is only 5 per cent of all COPRs issued to Express Entry candidates this year, about 9 times less than what it was prior to the pandemic.


IRCC got off to a slow start to the year as it was finalizing between 7,000 and 10,000 Express Entry applications per month through to May. In June, this nearly doubled, and IRCC has maintained a high pace of Express Entry application processing in the second half of this year. CEC candidates are by far the greatest beneficiaries of the increased processing capacity. IRCC has also increased the number of PNP applications it is finalizing but it still is not at the same level it processed for PNP candidates in January. The data suggests IRCC has diverted its resources to processing as many CEC applications as it can as it seeks to fulfil its 401,000 newcomer goal.

There has been little improvement in the number of FSWP applications processed. In September and October, IRCC finalized under 600 FSWP applications in each of those months.

IRCC indicates it currently has a backlog of 1.8 million permanent and temporary residence applications. This includes just under 100,000 Express Entry applications as of October 27. Assuming IRCC maintains its current pace, it will have processed all of the some 48,000 CEC applications remaining by January 2022. The department has indicated it would like to cut its Express Entry inventory by more than half before considering resuming invitations to CEC and FSWP candidates. IRCC held 27 CEC draws this year but has paused them since September 14. Meanwhile, FSWP candidates have not been drawn from the pool since December 23, 2020. There were some 165,000 FSWP candidates in the Express Entry pool as of October 25, 2021, which means they represent some 85 per cent of all current Express Entry candidates.

IRCC is well on its way to achieving its immigration target this year. It has landed nearly 314,000 permanent residents through to October, and in recent months has been landing over 45,000 per month. The department is currently in the process of determining Canada’s immigration levels target for 2022, as well as what Express Entry strategy to pursue next year. We can expect to learn more in the coming months. Major announcements still to come include the issuance of mandate letters to each federal minister, including immigration minister Sean Fraser. In addition, Fraser will unveil Canada’s Immigration Levels Plan 2023-2025 by February 10th. The mandate letter and new levels plan will provide stakeholders with more guidance on IRCC’s policy priorities in 2022 and beyond.






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I see this as good news. Before November, I didn’t see many FSW PPRs. I saw maximum of 4-5 per month. I’m even surprised they were processing up to 600 in-persons applications before November. This means, alot of people get PPRs but don’t announce it.

Now, take into consideration the several PPR announcements we’ve seen this November for FSW; Then imagine how many PPRs would have been issued. Must be some 10 fold increase. At this pace, a significant amount of backlogged applications in Ottawa would be cleared by January ending. Hopefully other VOs get busy to make it even faster.
 

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I see this as good news. Before November, I didn’t see many FSW PPRs. I saw maximum of 4-5 per month. I’m even surprised they were processing up to 600 in-persons applications before November. This means, a lot of people get PPRs but don’t announce it.

Now, take into consideration the several PPR announcements we’ve seen this November for FSW; Then imagine how many PPRs would have been issued. Must be some 10 fold increase. At this pace, a significant amount of backlogged applications in Ottawa would be cleared by January ending. Hopefully other VOs get busy to make it even faster.
a lot of people get PPRs but don’t announce it.
yes true that boss! there are even more people who doesn't respond when I ask them to share information about their timelines. 8/10 requests are either ignored / refused to share.
 

Jaycejay

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So, here are my calculations and thought:

MonthCOPRs CECCOPRs CEC
ImmiTracker
COPRs FSWCOPRs FSW
ImmiTracker
COPRs PNPCOPRs PNP
ImmiTracker
Backlog CEC
on Oct, 27
Backlog FSW
on Oct, 27
Backlog PNP
on Oct, 27
Sep, 202114364664687183419???
Oct, 202114282575863159614482255114771509
Nov, 2021?33?43?20???

There're two main interesting points, as I think:
1) The fact is that we don't know the actual number of persons per application, so it's hard to calculate how the backlog reduces. Someone have 0 dependend relatives, someone has more than 5. For further calculations, let us think that an average application has 2 persons in total. As a result, there will be just 1 COPRs for both of them. So, according to this estimation, the data for November should approximately be:

MonthCOPRs CECCOPRs FSWCOPRs PNPBacklog CECBacklog FSWBacklog PNP
Oct, 2021142825861596482255114771509
Nov, 2021???196614997568317

According to my calculations, it's highly likely, that almost half of applications stuck in the CEC backlog was finalized in November. If the tempo remains the same, it will probably take amout 1 month to clear the CEC backlog if the COPR issuing tempo doesn't fall.

2) According to the data from ImmiTracker the number of issued COPRs for FSW increased in about 10 times. So, let's make a prediction:
MonthCOPRs FSWCOPRs PNPBacklog FSWBacklog PNP
Oct, 202158615965114771509
Nov, 2021 (prediction)586015963942768317
Dec, 2021 (prediction)586015962770765125
Jan, 2022 (prediction)586015961598761933
Feb, 2022 (prediction)58601596426758741

Well, of course we should take into account that is an extremely rough prediction. I think that there's a chance that the FSW backlog may be cleared around March, 2022, if the current tendency remains.
Nevertheless, as we all know, IRCC can re-assign its officers from one program to another, so only God knows what to expect.

So, I see the picture this way:
- The CEC backlog may be cleared in Jan, 2022.
- All officers responsible for CEC may be re-assigned for finalizing PNP and FSW applications.
- Thus, the FSW and PNP backlogs will have been cleared by March, 2022.
- So, new FSW ITAs may be expected in March-April.
Nice analysis but the data given is already in-persons so that includes dependents
 

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a lot of people get PPRs but don’t announce it.
yes true that boss! there are even more people who doesn't respond when I ask them to share information about their timelines. 8/10 requests are either ignored / refused to share.
That’s interesting.
 
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which test whould i go for when i am ready though,tef or tcf?
I chose and prepared for eTEF Canada. Some people will tell you one test is easier than the other, but at the end of the day, if you speak and understand the language at a sufficiently high level, you'll get the desired scores. I took about 2-3 months of exam specific preparation after finishing my B2 courses, so be prepared to put some time into exam prep regardless of which one you pick. I don't think it's worth putting much effort into considering the minor differences in difficulty of one over the other.
 

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Do you know how long does it take after we submit the form? Everything is passed on my app, AOR Jan 2020.
Mostly people get ppr within 2 weeks but it may vary depending on case to case basis. My remeds were passed on 23 November but I still haven't received the golden mail , while a few others got it.
 
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Mostly people get ppr within 2 weeks but it may vary depending on case to case basis. My remeds were passed on 23 November but I still haven't received the golden mail , while a few others got it.
Did you also receive a Schedule A request? I am curious as to why do they need it now since everything was passed on my application since Sep 2020 (as per GMS).