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New Policy for International Students - April 12th, 2021

potatohead

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May 3, 2021
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guys, what's up with the payment? are you guys all paying now or are you waiting until May 6th ? :)
I saw some people already paid while others are waiting. I am not sure if you get a refund if you pay and are not able to submit. (the entire fee I mean and not just the RFPF)
 

apgh

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Sep 1, 2020
18
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Does anyone know or have a gut feeling whether IRCC accepts proof of graduation letters instead of the actual diploma? My diploma will be delivered in June and I'm planing to upload it via a webform.
 

potatohead

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May 3, 2021
25
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so we need following documents:
for work proof:- recent paystub, job letter
for study:- degree, transcripts
language:- general ielts
proof of pcc
status in canada
digital photo
imm008 form, imm5669, 5406, 5562
fees 1050 including rprf
passport
birth certificate
is any other document that I am missing here?
do we need rcmp as well?
and what about biom
They will probably need a medical at some point. Not sure if upfront or not. In the stream yesterday they mentioned that they won't require the people on worker's permit to submit an upfront medical if they have the number for an expired one and will approach them on a case by case basis to get a new medical. Listening to that, I am assuming that everyone else would probably need to provide an upfront medical :/ So if you are an international graduate, you will probably need an upfront medical, but I hope not.
 

potatohead

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May 3, 2021
25
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Does anyone know or have a gut feeling whether IRCC accepts proof of graduation letters instead of the actual diploma? My diploma will be delivered in June and I'm planing to upload it via a webform.
We don't know yet. For PGWP IRCC lets you use a degree completion letter and an official transcript but for PR and specifically for this stream we don't yet. There will not be any way for you to add to the documents you have already submitted. Applications will either be accepted or rejected by IRCC. This we know. So I wouldn't bet on providing documents via a webform especially if it is part of the eligibility criteria and not the admissibility part (PCC and medicals)
 

AMP20

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Sep 9, 2020
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So just to confirm if I have completed a 8 month (1 year) PG certificate I am not eligible to apply for the new pathway to PR right?
Can someone please help me with this? Is anyone here applying with only 1 year diploma/ certificate?
 

Vdiksha1

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Apr 8, 2020
15
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They will probably need a medical at some point. Not sure if upfront or not. In the stream yesterday they mentioned that they won't require the people on worker's permit to submit an upfront medical if they have the number for an expired one and will approach them on a case by case basis to get a new medical. Listening to that, I am assuming that everyone else would probably need to provide an upfront medical :/ So if you are an international graduate, you will probably need an upfront medical, but I hope not.
I am an international graduate and on work permit right now.
 

potatohead

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May 3, 2021
25
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I am an international graduate and on work permit right now.
Yes but I am assuming you didn't have to do a medical when you got the work permit. I think workers' permit != PGWP in this context. That's why I am ASSUMING we will have to have an upfront medical done.
 

Frisk

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Feb 19, 2016
864
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Toronto
So far we know that there's two stages: eligibility and admissibility.

With eligibility it seems like we only need to be able we meet the program requirements, so I'd say just work/school documents, language tests and the basic PR documents. This is the equivalent of the R10 check for EE.

If we pass eligibility, it looks like we'll be moved into admissibility. This is where we might get ADR request such as medicals and PCC and basically prove we're not a threat to the country.

IMO, if you have both eligibility and admissibility documents upfront your application has good chances of being processed fast, it's been hinted by several sources (leaked briefing, chatty lawyer, CICnews...) that this program is a once in a lifetime thing to meet 2021 immigration quota, this leads me to believe they're expecting to process those applications pretty quickly.

So if you have everything upfront, have a simple profile and apply on May 6th, I see pretty decent chances of getting a COPR by September-November.

This is just speculation though, we'll have to wait and see
 

potatohead

Full Member
May 3, 2021
25
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So far we know that there's two stages: eligibility and admissibility.

With eligibility it seems like we only need to be able we meet the program requirements, so I'd say just work/school documents, language tests and the basic PR documents. This is the equivalent of the R10 check for EE.

If we pass eligibility, it looks like we'll be moved into admissibility. This is where we might get ADR request such as medicals and PCC and basically prove we're not a threat to the country.

IMO, if you have both eligibility and admissibility documents upfront your application has good chances of being processed fast, it's been hinted by several sources (leaked briefing, chatty lawyer, CICnews...) that this program is a once in a lifetime thing to meet 2021 immigration quota, this leads me to believe they're expecting to process those applications pretty quickly.

So if you have everything upfront, have a simple profile and apply on May 6th, I see pretty decent chances of getting a COPR by September-November.

This is just speculation though, we'll have to wait and see
I agree with this. I am unsure if they will be okay with cases that have all the eligibility documents and are missing some admissibility documents (because they're delayed). Hoping there is some leeway there, otherwise it will pretty much be people whose home countries can provide them with a PCC first, and who have more immigration medical examiners nearby. Which is not wrong but would suck for a lot of people.
 

potatohead

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May 3, 2021
25
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Does anyone know if it was mentioned that there would be a guide out tomorrow (May 5th) or not? I am not sure if I am remembering a legit source or a rumour. Might have been the stream.
 

Frisk

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Feb 19, 2016
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Toronto
I agree with this. I am unsure if they will be okay with cases that have all the eligibility documents and are missing some admissibility documents (because they're delayed). Hoping there is some leeway there, otherwise it will pretty much be people whose home countries can provide them with a PCC first, and who have more immigration medical examiners nearby. Which is not wrong but would suck for a lot of people.
I believe our mentality is "apply ASAP before spots run out" while IRCC is expecting only complete applications, the secretism they have around this program is not very normal either and they should have announced this program only with the full information. IMO they should have waited to announce it, but once they did, giving the whole guide and leaving 3-4 weeks for applicants to prepare WITH all the information available.

I believe the whole rush came from "hey, we're not even close to this year's quota even with massive CEC draws, we gotta come up with something fast" hence the chaos. If the stream is launched in May and it fills up by June, that means that if IRCC is diligent processing those applications by the end of the year they should all be processed or close to.

Does anyone know if it was mentioned that there would be a guide out tomorrow (May 5th) or not? I am not sure if I am remembering a legit source or a rumour. Might have been the stream.
Saw it in a Q & A from IRCC's twitter
 

Frisk

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Feb 19, 2016
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Toronto
Well guys, I'm going to list everything we have. Let's compare and see if we all have the same documents prepared:

- imm0008 (placeholder until the good one gets released)
- imm5406 (printed, signed and scanned)
- imm5562 (printed several copies of the first page since I have a long travel history)
- imm5609 (printed, signed and scanned)

EDUCATION DOCUMENTS:

- Diploma
- Transcripts
- Confirmation of Graduation
- Study permit (which proves I studied legally and for 3 years)

EMPLOYMENT DOCUMENTS:

- Reference letter as per CEC specifications
- Employment contract
- T4
- 3 latest pay stubs

LANGUAGE:

- IELTS test report scanned

MEDICAL:

- Upfront medical exam form, taken on April 9th

PASSPORT AND ID:

- Bio page of my passport (I don't have any stamps, brand new)
- National ID, original, affidavit and translation

POLICE CERTIFICATES:

- Upfront RCMP certificate (I don't need it, just in case)
- Home country police certificate, original, affidavit and translation (I don't need it, just in case)

PICTURE:

- Digital pic according to EE's guidelines
- Professional studio picture with stamp on the back

PROOF OF PAYMENT:

- Receipt from the payment portal

LETTER OF EXPLANATION:

- A letter detailing my profile and the status I've held ever since I came to Canada, brief details of my work experience and some particularities regarding my country's police certificate. Nothing too crazy.


PROOF OF RESIDENCE:
JUST IN CASE they make you prove you want to live outside of Quebec

- Lease agreement in Ontario
- Ontario driver's license (with my address on it)
- Ontario Health card (with my address on it)