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Waiting for PR Card after landing - add your case here

yd7210a

Newbie
Jun 29, 2015
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tritu said:
Interesting, cuz my study permit is still attached in the passport :)
At first the officer left my study permit on. So I asked (probably shouldn't have) and he said "Yea, there's no use for this anyway. I'll just take it off for you." But again, the airline don't know anything about study permit. When I first moved to Canada from the US, I actually didn't even know I have to apply for a thing called the study permit before I come to Canada, and I fly here without any issue - only being stopped at the custom and waited 10 mins to get the study permit issued on spot at YVR.
 

micki

Star Member
Aug 14, 2013
95
1
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
spaceexp said:
I had a really nice reply, then the forum stopped working, so I will do a brief one now: go ahead a gamble, but my experience with CIC and this forum was why I wrote what I wrote.

I will first say that the term permanent resident inherently means you LIVE in Canada PERMANENTLY.

You can check these links:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/newcomers/about-pr.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5445ETOC.asp#appendixA

I will point out a few things from the first link:
A person in Canada temporarily, like a student or foreign worker, is not a permanent resident. - It can be argued that if you just land and then leave soon after you were in Canada only temporarily.

When you are a permanent resident, you can live outside of Canada, but must live in Canada for at least two years in a five-year period. If you live outside of Canada for longer, you may lose your permanent resident status. - It seems like you can just leave and stay out of Canada as long as you want, if you can gather those 2 years. BUT, when I was landing the officer actually suggested that I travel with my husband, because in that case that time counts in PR requirement. Usual vacation for Canadians is 2-4 weeks, and most people will not recommend you to stay outside of Canada for more than that, at least in the beginning.

Losing your permanent resident status does not happen automatically. You cannot lose your permanent resident status simply by living outside of Canada long enough that you don't meet the residency requirement. Unless you have gone through an official process, you have not lost or given up your permanent resident status, even though you may not be eligible to return to Canada as a permanent resident.
You may lose your permanent resident status if:
An adjudicator determines that you are no longer a permanent resident following an inquiry
A visa officer determines you do not meet the required residency when you apply for a permanent resident travel document or temporary resident travel document.
- This shows that they can actually refuse you to enter Canada as a resident and then you will have to legally prove that you still meet the permanent resident requirements.

I am aware that none of these directly prove my point, but if you read between the lines and search through the forum you will see that I am right to be cautious. I neither win or lose anything by telling you not to do what you have planned, I am just sharing my experience and/or knowledge. You should be aware that CIC will never give clear directions when it comes to things like this, because then people would know what to avoid, and they want to be able to "catch" people that are bending the rules. Just the point that another forum member told you not to do what you have planned at the same time I did should make you think. Some people from USA did exactly what you want, but that doesn't mean it is safe to do it.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do!
You know - for the sake of yours and other members time it would be really nice to be 100% sure and clear on the things you write on this forum...

"If CIC realizes you didn't land to start living in Canada, but only for the sake of landing, they can go so far as to take your PR away completely." is totally different from not satisfying the residence demand - the 2/5 rule.. Since your first landing you attain a PR status, so unless you are really dumb or retarded as to not be aware of the 2/5 rule perhaps your right of residency ought to be be taken out.

But the fact remains that your writing is really shitty...
 

spaceexp

Hero Member
Oct 17, 2014
361
15
Category........
Visa Office......
Vienna-->Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
received by CIC 12-03-2014
AOR Received.
10-04-2014
File Transfer...
01-05-2014
Med's Done....
03-02-2014
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
19-11-2014 (IP 18-11-2014, mailed 03-12-2014)
VISA ISSUED...
30-12-2014 , then again 13-02-2015 (DM 03-01-2015, PP&CoPR received 06-01-2015, returned to Ottawa because of a mistake, received again on 16-02-2015)
LANDED..........
16-02-2015
micki said:
You know - for the sake of yours and other members time it would be really nice to be 100% sure and clear on the things you write on this forum...

"If CIC realizes you didn't land to start living in Canada, but only for the sake of landing, they can go so far as to take your PR away completely." is totally different from not satisfying the residence demand - the 2/5 rule.. Since your first landing you attain a PR status, so unless you are really dumb or retarded as to not be aware of the 2/5 rule perhaps your right of residency ought to be be taken out.

But the fact remains that your writing is really *censored word*ty...
I am sorry you feel that way, since I only wanted to help.There are reasons why I am cautious about things like this. As I said, you can do whatever you want, there is no reason to do whatever anyone says here if you don't want to. I really do hope you will research this more, or that nothing will happen to you if you go ahead and do it.

And there is really no need for *censored* words.
 

katie26

Star Member
Apr 15, 2014
194
16
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1215
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16/05/2014
Doc's Request.
PFPR paid upfront
AOR Received.
27/06/2014
IELTS Request
submitted with the application
Med's Request
23/12/2014
Med's Done....
30/12/2014
Passport Req..
25/03/2015
LANDED..........
16/04/2015
i just called CIC they said i have to wait till July 15 th and then they can call the processing department to check on my PR card.. This is ridiculous.. i landed on April 16 th ...so apparently whatever the processing time is shown on their website you have to add 2 weeks for the mailing.. so it's taking them 3 months to send out PR card... :'(
 

traxton

Star Member
Apr 24, 2013
157
4
katie26 said:
i just called CIC they said i have to wait till July 15 th and then they can call the processing department to check on my PR card.. This is ridiculous.. i landed on April 16 th ...so apparently whatever the processing time is shown on their website you have to add 2 weeks for the mailing.. so it's taking them 3 months to send out PR card... :'(

WRONG, another CIC agent who doesn't know his/her work. I landed the same day as you, and according to the calculation (i.e. landing date + processing time as stated on website, which is now 76 calendar days), technically we should have our PR cards processed and mailed out by Jul 2. It might take up to 2 weeks for the card to reach you after it has been mailed out, but your profile will have an update that the PR Card has been processed and mailed, of which this info can be related to you if the CIC call center agent is competent and not lazy enough to access your profile (after you've provided your UCI number) and check for it. So call in on Jul 2, ask whether the PR card has been processed, and make sure the agent logs into your profile to give you an answer. If not, hang up, call again and hope you get another agent.
 

XpressEnterprise

Hero Member
May 21, 2014
603
68
Montreal, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad, PK (old)
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-01-2008
Doc's Request.
21-02-2012
Nomination.....
13-07-2007 (Investor)
AOR Received.
19-08-2008
IELTS Request
Waived
File Transfer...
20-04-2011 (London, UK)
Med's Request
29-08-2012 / 29-03-2014
Med's Done....
05-10-2012 / 20-06-2014
Interview........
01-12-2010 (Damascus, Syria)
Passport Req..
21-02-2012 (PPR1) / 15-10-2014 (PPR1 with chart) / 17-11-2014 (PPR2)
VISA ISSUED...
17-11-2014 (Received on 01-01-2015)
LANDED..........
12-04-2015 (PR Card : 09-07-2015)
katie26 said:
i just called CIC they said i have to wait till July 15 th and then they can call the processing department to check on my PR card.. This is ridiculous.. i landed on April 16 th ...so apparently whatever the processing time is shown on their website you have to add 2 weeks for the mailing.. so it's taking them 3 months to send out PR card... :'(
I landed on 12th April 2015.

When processing time was showing 67 days, and I called on 71st day, which was 22nd June), CIC representative asked three things before asking for my UCI

1) On which date had I landed?
2) Has processing time passed beyond the days mentioned on website?
3) Have you also checked your ECAS?

She checked it and told me that it's still under process (meaning, not issued) and told that I have to wait for two more weeks before I call them back. The date she gave me was 7 July 2015. I asked her where is this two weeks of extension mentioned, but she said standard policy. Later on the same day, processing time changed to 72 days.


NOW, when processing time was changed to 76 days, I called them back yesterday (on my 77th day) ... but this time, she asked to me wait for two more weeks. I asked her to check my file and tell me if cards have been processed or not. But, she said that I have to wait for two more weeks and gave me a date of 14 July 2015

So, I think they just give that two weeks waiting time so that they don't have to check file.I'm gonna call them today as well. They are just being lazy.
 

XpressEnterprise

Hero Member
May 21, 2014
603
68
Montreal, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad, PK (old)
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-01-2008
Doc's Request.
21-02-2012
Nomination.....
13-07-2007 (Investor)
AOR Received.
19-08-2008
IELTS Request
Waived
File Transfer...
20-04-2011 (London, UK)
Med's Request
29-08-2012 / 29-03-2014
Med's Done....
05-10-2012 / 20-06-2014
Interview........
01-12-2010 (Damascus, Syria)
Passport Req..
21-02-2012 (PPR1) / 15-10-2014 (PPR1 with chart) / 17-11-2014 (PPR2)
VISA ISSUED...
17-11-2014 (Received on 01-01-2015)
LANDED..........
12-04-2015 (PR Card : 09-07-2015)
Okay. Just had a chat with a very nice immigration officer (I think his name was Kevin or Evan, not sure).

I have just been told that my PR card file's processing have been completed (and immigration dept have processed and closed our files.) The only part is the photos and printing (of the cards) part and this usually happens within 30 days.
 

traxton

Star Member
Apr 24, 2013
157
4
XpressEnterprise said:
Okay. Just had a chat with a very nice immigration officer (I think his name was Kevin or Evan, not sure).

I have just been told that my PR card file's processing have been completed (and immigration dept have processed and closed our files.) The only part is the photos and printing (of the cards) part and this usually happens within 30 days.
Congrats! Yes, all CIC call center agents have access to our profiles and should log in to check for us regardless of whatever bulls*it "policy" they have about the processing/mailing time. It's really down to whether they are lazy or not to check for you, so if you get a lazy a** agent just hang up and call again.
 

XpressEnterprise

Hero Member
May 21, 2014
603
68
Montreal, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad, PK (old)
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-01-2008
Doc's Request.
21-02-2012
Nomination.....
13-07-2007 (Investor)
AOR Received.
19-08-2008
IELTS Request
Waived
File Transfer...
20-04-2011 (London, UK)
Med's Request
29-08-2012 / 29-03-2014
Med's Done....
05-10-2012 / 20-06-2014
Interview........
01-12-2010 (Damascus, Syria)
Passport Req..
21-02-2012 (PPR1) / 15-10-2014 (PPR1 with chart) / 17-11-2014 (PPR2)
VISA ISSUED...
17-11-2014 (Received on 01-01-2015)
LANDED..........
12-04-2015 (PR Card : 09-07-2015)
traxton said:
Congrats! Yes, all CIC call center agents have access to our profiles and should log in to check for us regardless of whatever bulls*it "policy" they have about the processing/mailing time. It's really down to whether they are lazy or not to check for you, so if you get a lazy a** agent just hang up and call again.
That's true.

Oh... and he did ask if this is the first time I am calling ... and I said yes 8)
 

mofan

Star Member
Jun 18, 2012
57
0
XpressEnterprise said:
Okay. Just had a chat with a very nice immigration officer (I think his name was Kevin or Evan, not sure).

I have just been told that my PR card file's processing have been completed (and immigration dept have processed and closed our files.) The only part is the photos and printing (of the cards) part and this usually happens within 30 days.
Another 30 days? no kidding?
 

XpressEnterprise

Hero Member
May 21, 2014
603
68
Montreal, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad, PK (old)
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-01-2008
Doc's Request.
21-02-2012
Nomination.....
13-07-2007 (Investor)
AOR Received.
19-08-2008
IELTS Request
Waived
File Transfer...
20-04-2011 (London, UK)
Med's Request
29-08-2012 / 29-03-2014
Med's Done....
05-10-2012 / 20-06-2014
Interview........
01-12-2010 (Damascus, Syria)
Passport Req..
21-02-2012 (PPR1) / 15-10-2014 (PPR1 with chart) / 17-11-2014 (PPR2)
VISA ISSUED...
17-11-2014 (Received on 01-01-2015)
LANDED..........
12-04-2015 (PR Card : 09-07-2015)
mofan said:
Another 30 days? no kidding?
Not another... Within 30 days (usually, its a week)
 

faisal83

Star Member
Aug 13, 2013
68
0
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
May 2009
Doc's Request.
Dec 2011
Nomination.....
Sep 2012
File Transfer...
Jan 2013
Med's Request
June 2014
Med's Done....
July 2014
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
August 27 oct
VISA ISSUED...
Visa Issued
LANDED..........
16-04-2015
I also landed on 16th april, but didn't recieve my PR card yet. We've to go our homeland, Can any one tell us who landed on april got card ?
 

XpressEnterprise

Hero Member
May 21, 2014
603
68
Montreal, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad, PK (old)
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-01-2008
Doc's Request.
21-02-2012
Nomination.....
13-07-2007 (Investor)
AOR Received.
19-08-2008
IELTS Request
Waived
File Transfer...
20-04-2011 (London, UK)
Med's Request
29-08-2012 / 29-03-2014
Med's Done....
05-10-2012 / 20-06-2014
Interview........
01-12-2010 (Damascus, Syria)
Passport Req..
21-02-2012 (PPR1) / 15-10-2014 (PPR1 with chart) / 17-11-2014 (PPR2)
VISA ISSUED...
17-11-2014 (Received on 01-01-2015)
LANDED..........
12-04-2015 (PR Card : 09-07-2015)

Andrew1982

Star Member
Nov 2, 2013
116
12
Did landing on April 26..
I had a scheduled trip on June 14. i left Canada. i did the travel documents in Rome.. I came back using the travel documents on Jun 28, my card still no arrived..
I hope it will come soon.
Good luck!!!
 

rowling

Full Member
Jun 11, 2015
22
0
Anyone has a rough idea how long the travel document processing time is? My husband has a trip scheduled for three days and I'm afraid that he cannot get his travel document in time....