US outland applicants' thread :)

[spinning_sponsor]

I'm just using a combination of what people are saying here and what is posted on the official processing times on the CIC website ;-)

I'm terribly pessimistic, that way if it does happen sooner I can be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Amalthea]

I'm just using a combination of what people are saying here and what is posted on the official processing times on the CIC website ;-)

I'm terribly pessimistic, that way if it does happen sooner I can be pleasantly surprised.

i don't think there's a person on here who has taken more than 10 months thru Ottawa. well, other than those who had interviews requested, but those are pretty rare

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq6VF-LGjkR9dGNpLUxQZ1Z0Mm80aE5ZWDBvWklEQUE#gid=0

I had the same attitude as you, expecting this to take forever so I could be pleasantly surprised. But I'd say it's pretty realistic to think your application will be done in 8-10 months at max

 

[BeShoo]

i don't think there's a person on here who has taken more than 10 months thru Ottawa

Ours took about 13 months total, but 1 month of that was for sponsorship approval. There was no interview, but there were some delays in getting them the updated documents they requested, so that probably slowed things down.

 

[Amalthea]

Ours took about 13 months total, but 1 month of that was for sponsorship approval. There was no interview, but there were some delays in getting them the updated documents they requested, so that probably slowed things down.

Ah yes, if they request docs sadly it can add a few months bc your app goes in a queue! Thanks for the reminder

 

[mandy_28115]

COPR in mail today! Very excited! Good luck everyone looks like there is a lot of movement in Ottawa

 

[BeShoo]

COPR in mail today! Very excited! Good luck everyone looks like there is a lot of movement in Ottawa

Congratulations, Mandy!

 

[jax_amc]

Hi I was hoping someone would be able to provide some insight on my current situation.

I talked to a immigration consultant and I dont feel like they provided me quality information. In my original consultation I was told that there would be no issues with applying as a conjugal partnership as all is needed to is provide proof that the relationship is geniuine but based on other people with similar experiences there are many people who have been rejected because they both come from developed nations hence there is no hindrance to getting married or co-cohabiting.

This is quite concerning to me. However I feel like my saving grace might be that both me and my boyfriend lived in Korea during the initial year of our relationship.Our contracts had a morality as well as housing clauses in it which prevented us from living together or at least having our housing and bills in our names. We are currently separated as his contract ended and I will be cutting mine short so that we can be together.

Would this be enough to support our conjugal claim? or would we need more to support this.
Also what would we need to provide proof that there is intent to marry?

If anyone could offer advice or insight it would be great appreciated. We are looking to apply in a couple of weeks and were leaning outwards out-land due to the quickness of the process but from what I can see no one has actually been able to successfully apply under conjugal.

Thank you,

 

[Amalthea]

Hi I was hoping someone would be able to provide some insight on my current situation.

I talked to a immigration consultant and I dont feel like they provided me quality information. In my original consultation I was told that there would be no issues with applying as a conjugal partnership as all is needed to is provide proof that the relationship is geniuine but based on other people with similar experiences there are many people who have been rejected because they both come from developed nations hence there is no hindrance to getting married or co-cohabiting.

This is quite concerning to me. However I feel like my saving grace might be that both me and my boyfriend lived in Korea during the initial year of our relationship.Our contracts had a morality as well as housing clauses in it which prevented us from living together or at least having our housing and bills in our names. We are currently separated as his contract ended and I will be cutting mine short so that we can be together.

Would this be enough to support our conjugal claim? or would we need more to support this.
Also what would we need to provide proof that there is intent to marry?

If anyone could offer advice or insight it would be great appreciated. We are looking to apply in a couple of weeks and were leaning outwards out-land due to the quickness of the process but from what I can see no one has actually been able to successfully apply under conjugal.

Thank you,

"If you are able to get married but choose not to, a conjugal application has an incredibly high chance of rejection. It's not a 100% requirement and some conjugal apps in this situation may get through successfully, but the vast majority will fail.

See here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf
5.45. What is a conjugal partner?
If a Canadian and a foreign national can get married or can live
together and establish a common-law relationship, this is what they are expected to have done
before they submit sponsorship and immigration applications.

for these individuals, marriage is usually not an available option. The conjugal partner category is mainly intended for partners where
neither common-law partner status nor marriage is possible

Because the other option – marriage – is not available to these couples" from Rob_TO

Also in the very same manual it is stated,

"People who are dating or who are thinking about marrying or living together and establishing a common-law relationship are NOT yet in a conjugal relationship, nor are people who want to live together to “try out” their relationship."



IMO if you could get married, but are choosing not to, your conjugal application will be denied.

 

[Amalthea]

Honestly, stating that you plan to get married would weaken your case, because you are stating that you are not yet in a marriage-like commitment. CIC expects you to apply when you get married.

Forum Member BeShoo phrased this well on another thread,

"Canada deliberately changed the immigration process when they introduced the current act to no longer allow applications from fiancé(e)s or girlfriends and boyfriends. If there is any indication that you were in that status in the year leading up to your application date, you will likely be refused. It is not the job of the immigration officers to try to decide if you will be in a permanent relationship in the future. You must already be there."

 

[Canadianinlove]

Just as an update I am still waiting on my husband's FBI report to come back. It was received by the FBI February 23, 2015 and we are still waiting. Our credit card hasn't been charged as of yet so they haven't processed his finger prints yet.
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I am hopeful it will be processed quickly.

 

[mandy_28115]

Just as an update I am still waiting on my husband's FBI report to come back. It was received by the FBI February 23, 2015 and we are still waiting. Our credit card hasn't been charged as of yet so they haven't processed his finger prints yet.
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I am hopeful it will be processed quickly.

I would call them. You can google the number. Its in Martinsburg ,WV. I called them and they gave me an update

 

[BeShoo]

... but from what I can see no one has actually been able to successfully apply under conjugal.

People have successfully applied under conjugal partnerships, but most people who apply under that category are not actually in a conjugal partnership; they just think they are. Success depends on convincing whoever looks at your file that you really are in a genuine, permanent marriage-like partnership and that you have been for at least one full year prior to applying.

They are the most interested in the 12 months ending on the date you applied and they expect that you and your partner have integrated your lives together in every way humanly possible. That could include wills, credit cards, shared expenses, your social life with friends and family, etc.

If your job required you to be celibate, you'd want to show why you didn't just quit your job so you and your partner could be together. Is your job really more important than your partner?

 

[Mariac819]

Or they could just lose your Original FBI clearance and add 5 months to your application

 

[Confused987]

Any signs of Ottawa VO picking up the pace. I have been looking at the spreadsheet and not much has been happening. Read online that lot of people are upset with Ottawa and there was a petition for a audit to determine why they are taking so long.

 

[EmSNYC]

There seems to be mixed information as far as Ottawa's pace is concerned, moreover I don't remember seeing lots of September applicants on the Ottawa spreadsheet (I might be wrong though).