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Supplementary Evidence Request

Discussion in 'Citizenship' started by average_student, Oct 15, 2019.

  1. Hello Everyone,

    Has anyone received request for supplementary evidence? Please advise.

    Thank you in advance.
     

  2. CIT0519 ? look for the form number on the bottom
     
  3. CIT 0520 (12-2018)
     
  4. Yea 0520 .. 0519 is final notice . They ask you for credit card and bank statements, T4s, entries exits, school and health records ? It will delay the process for 2 to 6 months
     
  5. What do they do with one year of credit card statements? I don't get it.
     
  6. not one year . All statements from the covered period (Normally in the past 4years )
     
  7. They have asked 1 year of credit card statements and letter from employer with all absences.

    I have two credit cards. Should I sent statement for both or just one?
    My employer doesn't provide such type of letter, what would be my best option?
     
  8. Yes. Many have. There are many topics here discussing the various types of requests . . . some discussions go into more detail than others.

    Note that in the majority of actual citizenship cases discussed in Federal Court decisions, the applicant in those cases was asked to provide supplementary evidence as to residence or presence. So there is quite a bit of information, including official sources, discussing these types of requests which are residency or presence related . . . often referred to as "RQ-related" requests.

    There are of course a number of other types of requests. Fingerprint requests are the most common. If there is a question about prohibitions, there may be a request for certified copies of official court records, or if about possible charges abroad, a request for a police clearance (apart from or in addition to those instances in which some applicants are required to provide police certificates with the application itself).

    When "supplementary evidence" comes up, here, that is usually about "RQ-related" requests. And there are multiple types of RQ-related requests for additional or supplemental information or documentation, including:
    -- a quality control exercise request including the form CIT 0205
    -- oral requests made during the test-event interview,
    -- simple letters asking for this or that particular document
    -- requests known as RQ-lite, the CIT 0520, which has a list of particular requests; ordinarily SOME are checked as requests to the particular applicant receiving the CIT 0520
    -- CIT 0171 which is the main "Residence Questionnaire" often referred to as the full blown RQ​

    While there are many topics here addressing one or more of these, some distinctions and comparisons and in-depth discussion of all these can be found in the topic titled: "RQ versus Physical Presence Questionnaires, including CIT 0205"
    See https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/rq-versus-physical-presence-questionnaires-including-cit-0205.534082/


    RE CIT 0520 or RQ-LITE IN PARTICULAR:

    These requests ordinarily come during or after the test-event interview (technically the Program Integrity or "PI" Interview, sometimes referred as the interview for verifying documents even though it entails more than that). The scope of the requests can vary from just one item in a list being checked to all the items, and they can include requests for specific documents in addition to those on the list. They are usually limited to a few documents. But a full request plus some is not uncommon.

    As noted, these are often referred to as RQ-lite, meaning they are similar to the full blown Residence Questionnaire but are smaller in scope, or "lite." They are intended to help IRCC decision-makers resolve particular questions by requesting specific documents which should resolve any open concerns or questions about the applicant's physical presence. In contrast, the full-blown RQ (CIT 0171) essentially puts the applicant on notice that IRCC has overt doubts that the applicant met the actual physical presence requirement, and are in effect requesting the applicant to make a full case to prove presence.

    My most recent copy of CIT 0520 is much older than the December 2018 version. (If anyone can post or link the more recent version, that would be appreciated.) So I rely on anecdotal reports in the forum to indicate what is currently listed on the form and what other documents are being requested.


    As I noted, the CIT 0520 ordinarily makes specific requests addressed to the particular applicant. If you have been sent CIT 0520 then READ and CAREFULLY FOLLOW the INSTRUCTIONS in the SPECIFIC REQUEST YOU RECEIVED. Most of the requests are straight-forward, even if some might not be easy to obtain and provide (for example, applicants often report difficulty obtaining and submitting "Entry-Exit Records" or "Record of Movement" from certain countries).

    Older versions of CIT 0520 clearly specified that the documents submitted "should cover the period _____ to _____"(asking for this in the YYYY-MM-DD format), "unless otherwise specified below." While this typically will be the beginning and end date for the FIVE year time period that constitutes the applicant's "eligibility period," the particular period of time can vary from that.

    And some of the particular requests can specify a more limited time period.

    So it is possible that one applicant will be asked to provide this or that documentation for a particular one-year time period, while many others are asked to prove such documentation for a longer period or even the full five year eligibility period.

    Requests for banking or credit card records can be quite specific. Leading to . . . your example:


    WHY BANKING or CREDIT CARD RECORDS? What do they do with one year of credit card statements?

    Such records can corroborate the applicant's information about presence. Or not corroborate. They can be an indicator of ongoing presence or ties, either IN Canada or outside Canada.

    So they are relevant if a Citizenship Officer needs more information to evaluate the applicant's account of where he or she was during particular periods of time.

    Since the burden of proof is on the applicant, the failure to provide evidence can support a negative inference. Leading to . . .

    Remember, omissions can be considered a material misrepresentation as much as an overt deception.

    That said, an applicant can only provide what can be provided. If you cannot obtain a letter from your employer, obviously you cannot submit a letter from your employer.

    For documents the applicant cannot provide, in the response to the CIT 0520, the applicant needs to state this and explain. That is, the applicant should (1) acknowledge he or she cannot provide the requested document, and (2) provide an honest explanation as to why not. If the employer will provide a letter stating the employer's policy about that, that could help. Whether to be more proactive than that is a personal decision. An applicant might, for example, instead obtain letters from one or more co-workers, the letters stating straight-forward facts like how they know the applicant, how long, for what time periods have they been coworkers and their respective positions, include some personal details if relevant, and maybe even confirm the employer's policy if the employer will provide even that. Keep the letters short. Stick to facts. Avoid generalizations or opinions.

    As for credit card records, obviously you should provide ALL documents requested. Cherry-picking some and omitting others is a recipe that could cook up suspicions. IRCC will decide what is relevant, how it is relevant, and what weight it has.
     
  9. Hello, so today I had the test, scored 20/20, got to interview, they said everything is fine. Then the officer required the "Request for Supplementary Evidence", form CIT 0520, and specifically said I had to do a US Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to get all entry/exits from the US. I grew up in the US so that's where I immigrated from, and I do have several trips over the past several years between Canada and US.

    I was not super bothered by this when I left the Citizenship test and interview, but then I get home to research and start reading these horror stories. I already found the FOIA, filled out the forms, and I am starting the wait today. The form clearly says, and the officer clearly advised I have 30 days, minimum. The form frighteningly says if you don't comply within 30 days and take no action your application will be considered abandoned?!?

    The scary thing is I hear people having to wait 3-6 months, sometimes years or never receive a response!?! Now I'm starting to freak out. Officer said "everything looks good" but yet they ask this step.

    Apparently my dates checked out 100% with the entry to Canada, so I'm not sure why this step was required? Any others have advice? Are there others who went through this specific experience and can report their outcomes??? I was so joyful that I'd go in today and leave with an oath ceremony waiting... Alas, it wasn't to be.
     
  10. Hi, sorry to hear about your experience. Were you asked for anything else during the processing of your application, like fingerprints?
    Not sure why they would ask for the CIT 0520, especially if all your dates matched up.
    If possible, I would also suggest you start collecting itineraries for each of these trips (if you still have access to them) just in case they ask for them.
     
  11. I was not asked about any other issues, the interview was otherwise normal. I didn't even know this form was being requested until the very end. She repeated "everything is good" as she handed the paper out. I am unsure if that was a true statement, or just her trying to avoid someone questioning the documents.

    I didn't question, because I had never heard of this, nor did I realize it was "not standard". I have not been reading a lot about others' citizenship experiences, I didn't realize you basically go from interview to oath, I thought this was "normal" until I get on here. It doesn't seem normal to me.
     
  12. They give this notice when they feel they cannot approve application just the way it is (too little convincing evidence, too much travel to count, self-employed, etc.), but they want to avoid the long way of RQ either.

    Think of this request as a friendly step - "We don't want to put you in for a long haul with RQ, but we do need some more confidence, with which we hope we could just approve you on the go and hopefully we'll call you for oath in no time."
     
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  13. So you think they will approve whether or not US CBP responds to FOIA request within 30 days?
     
  14. That's a hard question to answer since the case processing officer will have to make the call. It depends on the documents you have to submit in addition to the CBP FOIA request. If the CBP doesn't respond within 30 days, you will have to show proof of having made the request but not received a response yet.
    If everything is good, and they are just waiting on these additional documents, it just means that your timeline is prolonged. Doesn't necessarily mean your application will be rejected or abandoned.
     
  15. They didn't ask for a single extra document, it was just the US CBP exit/entry items. Well I am more concerned with the US side at this point, I understand if an officer here wants the information they can ask, but the US has no obligation to hand it out efficiently. I hope they take weeks, and not months!
     

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