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Sending explanation letter of non obtention of Police clearance

buingotnhulac

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Definitely,
I had the same situation when I couldn't get Dubai PCC for the reason I did not cancel my visa before I left.
I must contact with the company I worked before, persuaded them withdraw my name from the absconding list (blacklist), work with embassy of UAE and try to clear everything!

If you were in debt, you must pay it! In order to attain something, you must lose something! But you won't lose, you just pay for what you owed.
 

Alex20

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Mrs Sycla I do apreciate your advice of course but according to a lawyer that I found on internet , the important thing is to get an answer from Dubai Police that they cannot issue that for me and send as evidence to CIC , I did email them but they never answer they just said it to my friend there...I sent their embassy in my country here an email and they didn't answer as well.. what I ve got as evidence now a chat script with them : were i told them tht i have debts and i need the PCC and they did answer me that i have to clear it all first ! beside that i have emails with banks that i am trying to sort out things with them and email from my friend there telling me that they cannot issue the PCC while I didn't pay back the debts : thing that I cannot do now due to my financial situation but i am willing to pay back them when I will be in Canada God willing... The issue that some people on some forums are saying that Canada can refuse ur PR request if they see that u made a fraude which is a crime in Canada , some other people are telling that they will see it as accumulated debts which is not a crime in Canada..and I ma confused.. :(
 

nope

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Alex20 said:
Mrs Sycla I do apreciate your advice of course but according to a lawyer that I found on internet , the important thing is to get an answer from Dubai Police that they cannot issue that for me and send as evidence to CIC , I did email them but they never answer they just said it to my friend there...I sent their embassy in my country here an email and they didn't answer as well.. what I ve got as evidence now a chat script with them : were i told them tht i have debts and i need the PCC and they did answer me that i have to clear it all first ! beside that i have emails with banks that i am trying to sort out things with them and email from my friend there telling me that they cannot issue the PCC while I didn't pay back the debts : thing that I cannot do now due to my financial situation but i am willing to pay back them when I will be in Canada God willing... The issue that some people on some forums are saying that Canada can refuse ur PR request if they see that u made a fraude which is a crime in Canada , some other people are telling that they will see it as accumulated debts which is not a crime in Canada..and I ma confused.. :(
The reason you're confused is because you are expecting people to tell you what CIC is going to do -- no one can tell you that. The advice that you're receiving is what you need to do, and nothing more. There is no guarantee that it will work. It is up to you to figure out how to get information from Dubai that you can submit to CIC. Scylla told you very clearly what combination of information would give you the best chance of acceptance. Control what is in your control, and don't waste your time asking for advice about the rest -- your situation is ambiguous and doesn't have a clear answer.
 

Alex20

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I am confused because the situation is critical and I ve got different point of views.. I prefer getting answers or testomonials of people whom did got same situation as me .. thats it
 

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Alex20 said:
I am confused because the situation is critical and I ve got different point of views.. I prefer getting answers or testomonials of people whom did got same situation as me .. thats it
So you've decided to ignore the advice of the immigration specialist who's husband was unable to get a PCC from the Middle East?

The fact that your situation is critical doesn't change the fact that you have a best course of action.

Testimonials from people in the same situation as you won't change the fact that you have a best course of action -- and they are actually detrimental, because no one knows if their situation was exactly the same as yours, or if they're telling the truth.

If you want to immigrate to Canada as a PR, make the case for yourself.
 

Alex20

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I am not ignoring what she said , i do respect what she said .. I sent emails but no one is answering ! so what can I do beside that "Nope" ? Advice me ..
 

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I sponsored my husband more than five years ago and no longer have the letter we included to explain the absence of his Kuwait PCC. So on that front I cannot help.

As for the embassies / consulates - our experience was that it usually took a few weeks for them to reply and in most cases we had to follow up with them (by email and sometimes by phone). It took time and work to gather this additional evidence. Just sending one email was never enough.

That's all the advice I can provide. I have no idea if CIC will be fine with the missing PCC or not. Good luck.
 

monmig

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Hello Alex,

I see myself in your situation but I havent started applying. I'm actively getting more info about my current situation and how to go about it. So happened I stumbled upon this thread. Actually, Syclla is correct. With what I have read before, you need to convince CIC that you've done your best to obtain the PC. You need to explain to them your situation and importantly, submit evidence of your effort. Maybe like copies of confirmation of application online for the police clearance (UAE) and their reply; if processing thru embassy on which country you are, you can put the confirmation of application/receipts/payments you made; correspondences (black and white) with institutions whom you reached out to obtain your PC; and others.
These are just what I have collected so far. But it doesnt mean it will put you thru. Everything will still depend on CIC, and probably, your destiny... lol ;D ;D ;D. Anyways, I always believe that it's better you tried than did nothing. Who knows.
 

Alex20

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I did try my best to get emails answers from these different organisations but no one is answering so I just send an explanation letter telling them that I didn't get any answers to my emails..that's it ..and hope it is going to work :(
 

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First, from my experience is that, it is actually close to impossible to go around the police certificate issue until there is a genuine reason behind it and the applicant itself is not a problem. In your case, if you are not able to pay debts which is stopping you from obtaining PCC, how will you be able to send documents of Proof of Funds. Reason for PoF is to show that you have financial backbone to sustain your stay in Canada without being burden to economy.

It will be double-edge-sword to declare yourself as bankrupt implying for not being able to pay off and yet in another section of application you will be showing substantial funds for your sustainable stay in Canada.
 

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Hongkong2012 said:
First, from my experience is that, it is actually close to impossible to go around the police certificate issue until there is a genuine reason behind it and the applicant itself is not a problem. In your case, if you are not able to pay debts which is stopping you from obtaining PCC, how will you be able to send documents of Proof of Funds. Reason for PoF is to show that you have financial backbone to sustain your stay in Canada without being burden to economy.

It will be double-edge-sword to declare yourself as bankrupt implying for not being able to pay off and yet in another section of application you will be showing substantial funds for your sustainable stay in Canada.
I don't think this is true at all. CIC isn't judging him on his ability to repay his debt, or the fact that he chooses not to -- being in debt, or bankrupt, is not generally a crime in Canada, where debt is not criminalized. All CIC wants is the police certificate, that would show if he has done anything that IS a crime in Canada. He can't submit one -- so he's asking what other things he can show instead. Whether it will be accepted or not I don't know, the OP doesn't seem to be very energetic or resourceful at obtaining information.
 

Alex20

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I tried my best , I sent them the emails with my friend in Dubai.. hope they will do their own security check nd find that i dont have other issues..
 

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Alex20 said:
I tried my best , I sent them the emails with my friend in Dubai.. hope they will do their own security check nd find that i dont have other issues..
Honestly, sending emails to your friend in Dubai is not your best, at least in my opinion -- you need to do better than that. Do you think CIC is going to care that you have a copy of some email you sent your friend, or that your friend sent you?
 

Alex20

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my friend was the connection between me and the police there actually ... he gave all the information about my situation according to them..
 

allstars

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Hi Alex, I am in a same boat of UAE Police Clearance. My MRS applied in November 2014 under FSW. We have got PER in February 2015. Medical+PCC+RPRF in July 2015. I applied for PCC through a family friend but Dubai Police told him that PCC cannot be issues due to unpaid Etisalat Bill. I asked Etisalat for an agreement but unfortunately they denied and asked to pay the outstanding in full at their office in Dubai, UAE. This was very unlikely that I visit to Dubai, UAE for this thing only. I however sent an explanation to VO at LVO along with correspondence, Fingerprints letter, and request of issuance of PCC to Dubai Police in November 2015 and till now I have not received any response from their side except they told me once in December 2015 that my explanation has been sent to for review.

I am also confused that how long they will take now from here. There has not been any red flag except PCC. I had money at that time when I left Dubai, but I never bothered to this outstanding Elife bill. I had done my visa cancellation properly and got cancellation stamp along with Ministry of Interior clearance (No BAN) letter, which I sent along with my explanation.

my fingers have been crossed since then and now let everything on All Mighty. What about you, have you sent an explanation to them or not yet?