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Shivpati

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Jul 1, 2020
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Simply means your app requires review from an officer to have eligibility conclusively passed. But they have piles of other tasks to process and God knows how long it's your turn
So does that mean a red flag? or can i send something pro-actively?
 

za_skrub

Star Member
Sep 13, 2020
138
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So does that mean a red flag? or can i send something pro-actively?
Nothing worrying according to the notes. If you are sure the letter of employment verification contains all needed info then all you need is just waiting it out. Whatever you sent if no officer cared to review it'll just collect dust.
 

Shivpati

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Jul 1, 2020
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Nothing worrying according to the notes. If you are sure the letter of employment verification contains all needed info then all you need is just waiting it out. Whatever you sent if no officer cared to review it'll just collect dust.
the other thing i noticed was my CRS score decreased by 50 points - no foreign work experience. Guess they need to review it! It was 480 including 3+ yrs of foreign work experience.

@legalfalcon and others, do you think it's a good idea to send them a webform with more detailed employment verification letters or wait for them to request it? The EVL were pretty descriptive in the first place.
 

apollonoob

Star Member
Nov 16, 2020
180
57
got a GU today. might because last September we took our upfront medical check. BTW, my MEP is December 2020, is it normal that in my portal my MEP date is disappear? It now says
  • You do not need a medical exam. We will send you a message if this changes.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
ASSESSMENTS
Eligibility: Review Required
Security: Not Started
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed
Misrepresentation:
Info Sharing: in Progress
Other Reqs:
Final:

I saw review required for the following -

1. POLICE CERTIFICATE --- Primary Applicant India Police certificate: Provide - NRT USA FBI police certificate"Provided- NRT R10 OK Recommendation: Review Required - Stat Questions

- Letter confirms full/time employment; 2018-04 to 2019-03 - Services Consultant ( noC 2171) at xxxxx *REVIEW REQUIRED*

What does Review Required means, do i need to send any other document to prove? @legalfalcon
If you answer yes to any statutory questions then you will have review required, which is common.

Statutory questions pertain to any prior visa refusal, criminality, etc. The RR during R10 is different from EE for eligibility. For EE for R10, you do not have to do anything. For EE for eligibility see my previous post:


Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To streamline this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision-making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize them in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst/assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst/assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst/assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is a “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are known as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your POF is anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day-to-day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

These are just some of the scenarios.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Should I be Worried ?
I do have a travel Visa For USA and I did mention it in my application
There is nothing to be concerned about. If there was no info in the system, this is normal and your info-sharing will be passed.
 

Shivpati

Hero Member
Jul 1, 2020
239
128
If you answer yes to any statutory questions then you will have review required, which is common.

Statutory questions pertain to any prior visa refusal, criminality, etc. The RR during R10 is different from EE for eligibility. For EE for R10, you do not have to do anything. For EE for eligibility see my previous post:


Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To streamline this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision-making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize them in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst/assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst/assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst/assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is a “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are known as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your POF is anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day-to-day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

These are just some of the scenarios.
it looks like they need to review the employment.



I uploaded a new evaluation letter using web form with jobs and responsibilities. Anything else i should be doing? @legalfalcon
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016

Brady_Bryant

Full Member
Nov 6, 2020
39
39
So does that mean a red flag? or can i send something pro-actively?
This is the advantage of GCMS. If you have a RR, then take a closer look at the document that you have submitted. If there is a gray area somewhere, please go ahead and submit a webform giving more details that can clarify stuff. If the document is crystal clear, just wait..
 

Shivpati

Hero Member
Jul 1, 2020
239
128
This is the advantage of GCMS. If you have a RR, then take a closer look at the document that you have submitted. If there is a gray area somewhere, please go ahead and submit a webform giving more details that can clarify stuff. If the document is crystal clear, just wait..
Appreciate it
 

Shivpati

Hero Member
Jul 1, 2020
239
128
Just because you have a RR does not mean that there is an issue with your employment documents. RR only indicates that the officer has been asked to review the specific document.
Thank you sir! Just to be on the safe side I submitted a webform with an evaluation letter with responsibilities.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
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