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hi @Miss bee, I hope you are doing well not being bombarded with too many questions :)

What do you think - can GCMS note affect PNP processing time? Looks like my application stuck at one of the last stages, and no updates (including ghost) for last month.
I'm thinking about to request GCMS to check was my Security Check started or not. I have representative, so can't check detailed status - only see Background check is in progress, Eligbility not started on tracker, by by phone they said that Eligibility is done, but Security not started.
I read different opinions that GCMS can delay process, or sometimes it "might comes to a benefit that the file is cleaned from dust".
So what do you think - can it delay application?

Thank you!
 
d1rrected said:
hi @Miss bee, I hope you are doing well not being bombarded with too many questions :)

What do you think - can GCMS note affect PNP processing time? Looks like my application stuck at one of the last stages, and no updates (including ghost) for last month.
I'm thinking about to request GCMS to check was my Security Check started or not. I have representative, so can't check detailed status - only see Background check is in progress, Eligbility not started on tracker, by by phone they said that Eligibility is done, but Security not started.
I read different opinions that GCMS can delay process, or sometimes it "might comes to a benefit that the file is cleaned from dust".
So what do you think - can it delay application?

Thank you!
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No, requesting GCMS notes does not delay your application.

Why GCMS Does Not Delay Application
  • Passive request: GCMS notes are simply a copy of your existing file pulled from the IRCC system. The team that processes these requests is different from the one handling your PR application.
  • IRCC has confirmed multiple times that requesting GCMS does not negatively affect application timelines or priority.
  • Widely used tool: Many applicants request GCMS notes as a standard part of tracking progress after a few months of no updates—especially when security hasn’t started.
Your Case – What’s Likely Happening
You’re seeing:
  • Tracker says: Background in progress, Eligibility not started
  • Phone agent says: Eligibility done, Security not started
  • No ghost updates for 1+ month
This kind of discrepancy is very normal because:
  • The tracker is often inaccurate or delayed in reflecting internal updates (especially for paper-based/non-Express Entry PNP).
  • Eligibility, once passed, is sometimes not updated on the tracker, even though it’s done internally.
  • Security checks are done by CBSA/CSIS, and IRCC has limited visibility. Once started, they’re invisible until completed (even in GCMS).

Why GCMS Could
Help (Indirectly)
  • Sometimes, officers re-open the file when GCMS is requested (this is rare but does happen in “dormant” cases).
  • You’ll get clear confirmation if Eligibility is passed, Criminality is done, and Security is started or not.
  • Can help identify if the file is stuck for some reason (e.g. waiting for additional internal review or documents).
When to Request GCMS?
Given your timeline and last update being over a month ago, and if Security hasn’t started:
Yes, it’s a good time to request GCMS notes. It usually takes about 30 days to arrive, and it won’t impact processing.

Note: Since you have a representative, they (or you, with their withdrawal) must submit the request. Alternatively, you can go through a third-party GCMS service.
 
Hey @Miss bee i have a doubt. My spouse (dependent) received ADR travel info but the form states that it should be filled by the principal applicant. What am i supposed to do?

P.S- I submitted the same ADR under my name yesterday.
 
Mr. Indian said:
Hey @Miss bee i have a doubt. My spouse (dependent) received ADR travel info but the form states that it should be filled by the principal applicant. What am i supposed to do?

P.S- I submitted the same ADR under my name yesterday.
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You (the Principal Applicant) must complete and submit the form on your spouse’s behalf.
Even though the request came under your spouse’s name, the travel history form (IMM 5562) or similar is always filled and signed by the principal applicant, but includes the information for all accompanying family members, including your spouse.
  • Who fills out the form? ➤ You, the Principal Applicant.
  • Whose info goes in the form? ➤ Everyone’s — your travel history, and your spouse’s (and children, if requested).
  • Who submits it? ➤ You submit it as a response to the ADR (via your IRCC portal or your representative, depending on your setup).
If your spouse’s name was on the ADR, it just means IRCC wants their travel history included, but you are still responsible for the submission.
 
Miss bee said:
You (the Principal Applicant) must complete and submit the form on your spouse’s behalf.
Even though the request came under your spouse’s name, the travel history form (IMM 5562) or similar is always filled and signed by the principal applicant, but includes the information for all accompanying family members, including your spouse.
  • Who fills out the form? ➤ You, the Principal Applicant.
  • Whose info goes in the form? ➤ Everyone’s — your travel history, and your spouse’s (and children, if requested).
  • Who submits it? ➤ You submit it as a response to the ADR (via your IRCC portal or your representative, depending on your setup).
If your spouse’s name was on the ADR, it just means IRCC wants their travel history included, but you are still responsible for the submission.
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Hi i think i have not explained you properly
What i mean is i received ADR for travel and day before yesterday i have submitted that same and acknowledge but yesterday again only my spouse got ADR for travel and its mentioned like this- SUPPLEMENTARY TRAVEL- YOURS

So i submitted through webform today but with spouse as a principal applicant in travel form , do you think i did correct or i need to send webform again with corrections?

Please help me
 
Mr. Indian said:
Hi i think i have not explained you properly
What i mean is i received ADR for travel and day before yesterday i have submitted that same and acknowledge but yesterday again only my spouse got ADR for travel and its mentioned like this- SUPPLEMENTARY TRAVEL- YOURS

So i submitted through webform today but with spouse as a principal applicant in travel form , do you think i did correct or i need to send webform again with corrections?

Please help me
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To avoid confusion, I would suggest you to fill new form again for you and your wife and send it through webform . They will accept it through webform . Don't worry about timeline.
 
Miss bee said:
To avoid confusion, I would suggest you to fill new form again for you and your wife and send it through webform . They will accept it through webform . Don't worry about timeline.
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We did already in 1st ADR a day before yesterday as a principal applicant and also they acknowledged that as well

So again they gave to spouse
This is the 2nd ADR for dependent with UCI

So who will be the principal applicant in form?

As the ADR belongs to dependent
 
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Hi, we are a family of three, two are in Canada and the other outside of Canada. We have already received the P1 and the visa in the passport of our family member, who is outside of Canada. Can he only travel when we receive the P2 and confirm that we are already in Canada? Do we have to wait for the EcoPR as well so he can travel? How long does it take from P1 to P2? We have already completed 30 days of waiting. Thank you.
 
Just received my gcms notes and found I’m under A34 comprehensive security. All checks has passed except security. Anyone else under comprehensive?

AR: march 21 2024
AOR: July 5 2024
Primary Office: Windsor IRCC
Secondary Office: Winnipeg IRCC

Type: Security Screening
Status: Received by CBSA
SIl Indicator:
Validity Date:
Status Updated Date: 2024/12/03
Due Date: 2025/01/01

Type: Security
Status: In Progress
Validity Date:
Status Updated Date: 2024/12/02
Due Date: 2025/07/05
 
kirby97 said:
Just received my gcms notes and found I’m under A34 comprehensive security. All checks has passed except security. Anyone else under comprehensive?

AR: march 21 2024
AOR: July 5 2024
Primary Office: Windsor IRCC
Secondary Office: Winnipeg IRCC

Type: Security Screening
Status: Received by CBSA
SIl Indicator:
Validity Date:
Status Updated Date: 2024/12/03
Due Date: 2025/01/01

Type: Security
Status: In Progress
Validity Date:
Status Updated Date: 2024/12/02
Due Date: 2025/07/05
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When did you order your gcms notes? I ordered mines on May 15th, still waiting.
 
kirby97 said:
Just received my gcms notes and found I’m under A34 comprehensive security. All checks has passed except security. Anyone else under comprehensive?

AR: march 21 2024
AOR: July 5 2024
Primary Office: Windsor IRCC
Secondary Office: Winnipeg IRCC

Type: Security Screening
Status: Received by CBSA
SIl Indicator:
Validity Date:
Status Updated Date: 2024/12/03
Due Date: 2025/01/01

Type: Security
Status: In Progress
Validity Date:
Status Updated Date: 2024/12/02
Due Date: 2025/07/05
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A34 refers to Section 34 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA), which deals with inadmissibility due to security grounds, including:
  • Espionage
  • Subversion (e.g., against democratic government)
  • Terrorism
  • Membership in an organization involved in such act
However, in many GCMS notes, “A34” doesn’t necessarily mean the person is suspected of these things. Instead, it can simply mean the CBSA is conducting an in-depth security screening, especially for nationals from certain countries or if there’s a trigger (e.g., travel history, dual citizenship, past immigration issues, etc.).
 
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