Kingston,Jamaica

[ready_fi_move_on]

Ok soo we strongly feel the reason why he is called for an interview is because he has a child that was born from another woman within in the time frame of our relationship.
He and have been together since late 06 and my step daughter was born in 09
During the course of relationship we split for a little bit and he found comfort in another womans arms
The end results was my step daughter once we got back together we found out that she was pregnant. My husband has complete custody of his daughter (court approved) he has been taking care of her since she was 2 months old He never had a relationship with his baby mothers (one night stand) I am not sure what proof he needs to bring in to prove this ….. any suggestions

 

[CharlieD10]

Custody papers, any photos of him with the baby since she was very young (should be obvious there was no relationship with the mother as he would be the only one in the pictures). Get affidavits from anyone he knows with some standing in the community who is aware he was essentially a single father and you are the only mother the child knows.

 

[Jamgirl]

Hey Jamgirl! Are you referring to your's or your husbands? I'm referring to the PR applicant as in when KG receives ap, at which point do they initiate the background/security checks.

Sorry, was referring to hubbys checks... the GCMS notes state that the applicant's checks were initiated same day as sponsorship approval, before the file was sent to Kingston

 

[Jamgirl]

jamgirl ...i did not want to go do them untill they say cuz of that whole new thing with the meds

this makes me nervous, I personally choose to redo them instead of waiting on extension request *IF* Kingston is even going to access their right to request it...

take a look at this thread and the outrageous timelines...

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/medical-exam-validity-extension-lets-share-our-timelines-t114915.0.html

 

[CharlieD10]

Sorry, was referring to hubbys checks... the GCMS notes state that the applicant's checks were initiated same day as sponsorship approval, before the file was sent to Kingston

Remember that for the purposes of sponsorship eligibility, you (the sponsor) are the applicant. Only when the file gets to KG does your husband become the applicant. Weird, I know, but that's how it is. Any checks initiated by CPC-M would concern the sponsor and their eligibility.

 

[Jamgirl]

Remember that for the purposes of sponsorship eligibility, you (the sponsor) are the applicant. Only when the file gets to KG does your husband become the applicant. Weird, I know, but that's how it is. Any checks initiated by CPC-M would concern the sponsor and their eligibility.

I thought these were listed under my husbands name in the file notes though?

 

[CharlieD10]

I thought these were listed under my husbands name in the file notes though?

Yes, but as long as its done by/at CPC-M, it concerns you. CPC-M makes no checks into foreign nationals, only Canadians opting to become sponsors.

 

[Jamgirl]

Now Im confused lol... this is how it is written in my file notes...

CRIMINALITY
CRIMINALITY: 1
Created Date: 2011/12/22 12:06:57
Created By: MB03697
Updated Date: 2011/12/22 12:06:57
Updated By: MB03697
UCI #: XXXXXXXX
Family Name: XXXXXXXX
Given Name: JAMBOY
Type: Criminality
Status: Not Started
Validity Date:
Status Updated By: MB03697
Status Updated Date: 2011/12/22
Assigned By: MB03697
Assigned To: RC-9570
Due Date: 2012/12/22
Activity #: XXXXXXX

I thought this had nothing to do with sponsor and everything to do with applicant. ???

 

[CharlieD10]

Hahaha, and now I am too. What checks are you referring to as being done by CPC-M? They wouldn't do any checks on your husband, and immediately after sponsor approval, the file goes to Ottawa for transfer to KG. No criminality checks etc would have been done by CPC-M for the applicant.

 

[CharlieD10]

Sorry, was referring to hubbys checks... the GCMS notes state that the applicant's checks were initiated same day as sponsorship approval, before the file was sent to Kingston

Ahhh, here we go, this is where I got confused. The locked-in date of the application will always be the reference date for the various checks. So your locked-in date of Dec 22 (when you were approved to sponsor) is the date they show as the start date for your husband's criminality and background checks. This doesn't actually mean the checks begin at CPC-M, as CPC-M has nothing to do with the foreign nationals, only with sponsors.

 

[ready_fi_move_on]

Custody papers, any photos of him with the baby since she was very young (should be obvious there was no relationship with the mother as he would be the only one in the pictures). Get affidavits from anyone he knows with some standing in the community who is aware he was essentially a single father and you are the only mother the child knows.

thanks much CHARLIED
i plan on having him totally prepared for this interview leaving nothing left for them to question about

***hmm maybe anada's idea about the video lol ****** that would be the day even though i am born in jamaica they would deport me quick times lol

 

[CharlieD10]

This is an interesting convo....Charlie, im wondering also if background/criminal checks start from the day u are approved as sponsor in kingston...meanwhile they wait for the evidence (our documents to reach KNGSTON by mail ) then they go from there to look into if the relationship is genuine or not...then if found genuine go onto medicals...hmmmm ...cuz i realize medicals are the last thing b4 they request passport n visa...wat u think???

No, although it would be a good idea, wouldn't it! KG doesn't initiate checks until they receive the actual paper file. Remember that each file has two file numbers, one assigned when the sponsor is approved, then one when the file goes to KG and is uploaded there. As it is a government office, I am pretty sure they need both numbers for their audit trail when background checks etc are initiated.

Furthermore, KG reviews the actual paper files to ensure there is nothing needed from the applicant, and the initial review of the file takes place to determine whether they want to queue a file for interviews or pass them straight to background checks because the initial review poses no questions about the relationship. All of this takes place at KG, and the paper file is essential for this. What goes into the system at CPC-M is just general details.

 

[CharlieD10]

***hmm maybe anada's idea about the video lol ****** that would be the day even though i am born in jamaica they would deport me quick times lol

LOL. Laptops etc are not permitted inside the embassy. They also do not accept video evidence (someone from another VO made the mistake of sending their wedding photos and videos on a USB stick. Of course, it was not viewed, so his wife was convoked to an interview because so far as the office was concerned, there were no supporting photographs).

 

[CharlieD10]

ok...but i've heard somewhere (dont know how accurate it is) that after approval cic-M transfers the electronic file to Kingston...so Kingston gets the file over the computer....the rest of the documents (our proofs/evidence) get mailed...wut u think?

Yes, an electronic file is transferred, but as I said all that contains is general details. KG won't have access to your supporting proofs, your photographs and other documents, until they get the paper file. I doubt there is very much they can assess from the electronic file except names, DOB and so on!

 

[Halfmoon]

Now Im confused lol... this is how it is written in my file notes...

CRIMINALITY
CRIMINALITY: 1
Created Date: 2011/12/22 12:06:57
Created By: MB03697
Updated Date: 2011/12/22 12:06:57
Updated By: MB03697
UCI #: XXXXXXXX
Family Name: XXXXXXXX
Given Name: JAMBOY
Type: Criminality
Status: Not Started
Validity Date:
Status Updated By: MB03697
Status Updated Date: 2011/12/22
Assigned By: MB03697
Assigned To: RC-9570
Due Date: 2012/12/22
Activity #: XXXXXXX

I thought this had nothing to do with sponsor and everything to do with applicant. ???

Hey Jamgirl - The status you note above say's "not started"?