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samakshkapoor

Star Member
Oct 31, 2018
64
51
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
2171
AOR Received.
28-12-2020
Although I have read it on CICs website, that they are processing CEC applns at full capacity and others with limited capacity, but does anyone know if anybody in their contact have received the FSW-O COPR/ PPR?
 

binder1232

Hero Member
Oct 28, 2013
460
151
India
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
1225
App. Filed.......
07th October 2020
Doc's Request.
None
Nomination.....
25 November 2020
AOR Received.
24 December 2020
IELTS Request
passed
File Transfer...
24 December 2020
Med's Request
Upfront done
Med's Done....
03/02/2021
Interview........
waiting
Passport Req..
24-06-2022
VISA ISSUED...
11 July 2022
LANDED..........
N.A.
Although I have read it on CICs website, that they are processing CEC applns at full capacity and others with limited capacity, but does anyone know if anybody in their contact have received the FSW-O COPR/ PPR?
Yes, three person who get their PPR's in April 2021, AOR's Dec, 2019, Oct, 2019, July 2019, Nationalities are Vietnam, India, India. Source: https://myimmitracker.com/en/ca/trackers/consolidated-e-apr-tracker-express-entry-permanent-residency-application
 

Jaybye

Star Member
May 20, 2019
140
122

binder1232

Hero Member
Oct 28, 2013
460
151
India
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
1225
App. Filed.......
07th October 2020
Doc's Request.
None
Nomination.....
25 November 2020
AOR Received.
24 December 2020
IELTS Request
passed
File Transfer...
24 December 2020
Med's Request
Upfront done
Med's Done....
03/02/2021
Interview........
waiting
Passport Req..
24-06-2022
VISA ISSUED...
11 July 2022
LANDED..........
N.A.
I don't know how you guys use Immitracker with ease. Always appear a lot complex to me with all those pool of different pieces of info! Not my thing to be frank..
you used filters or not? if you know how to use filters you can easily collect data as per your requirements. Its not given a 100% true insight, but its given some information which may be trustworthy.
 

farazsattar

Star Member
Jul 20, 2017
106
29
38
Georgia
@legalfalcon

Hello Dear,
On behalf of my Cousin, I want to understand as per your opinion if the VO is CPC Ottawa, AOR 23 Dec 2020.
Eligibility - Passed, Criminality - In progress, Security - Not started. How much more time will be required to get visa approval.

Thank you in advance.
 

robstark1255

Member
Mar 1, 2020
18
2
Category........
CEC
NOC Code......
0122
Nomination.....
03-07-19
Hello All,
Which is the safest and fastest agent/online portal to get GCMS?
 

caipsnotes

Champion Member
Jan 10, 2020
2,493
1,059
Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Buffalo, NY
@legalfalcon

Hello Dear,
On behalf of my Cousin, I want to understand as per your opinion if the VO is CPC Ottawa, AOR 23 Dec 2020.
Eligibility - Passed, Criminality - In progress, Security - Not started. How much more time will be required to get visa approval.

Thank you in advance.
These are stats pre-pandemic and its only taking longer these days. Unfortunately no one can predict timelines as each case is unique and processed on it's own merits.

How long did it take to process an Express Entry application?


Processing Times for Express Entry applications finalized by year and immigration category, in months
Program201720182019
Canadian Experience Class457
Federal Skilled Worker469
Provincial/Territorial Nominee669
Federal Skilled Trades6712
All Programs558
Source: CIC_EDW (MBR) as of January 3, 2020 Data is operational and as such should be considered preliminary and subject to change.

  • Processing times refer to the time in which 80% of applications were finalized by IRCC. The processing time is measured from the day a complete application is received until the time a final decision is made by an immigration officer.
  • Source
 
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caipsnotes

Champion Member
Jan 10, 2020
2,493
1,059
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Visa Office......
Buffalo, NY
Hello All,
Which is the safest and fastest agent/online portal to get GCMS?
It's almost as good as coin toss whether you will receive your GCMS file in 30 days or if it's going to take far longer (Some/one GCMS provider has disproportionately been receiving 90 day extensions, so beware from where you get gcms).

The unfortunate part is that IRCC has categorized 3rd party GCMS providers into tiers when it comes to extensions.

As a result some 3rd parties will fairly consistently receive 90 days extensions when you get gcms while others receive 60 day extensions if and when extensions are taken

These actions of IRCC were revealed in response to an ATIP request and are an undisputed fact.

CBSA on other hand has a better track; review this detailed comparison for requesting Gcms Notes from IRCC vs CBSA https://bit.ly/34nuJPu

There are GCMS providers who are known to operate unsafe website. Safety should be paramount see why https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/september-2020-aor-join-here.700416/post-9291438
 

Bacelor

Hero Member
Oct 20, 2017
883
363
@robstark1255
Honestly be sure on how to order your notes before you do so.

Your bank accounts number, passport, birth certificates, ECAs, IELTS etc.. are there and you willing to consent for virtual unknown entity to access those information not only for free but you pay them 20 bucks to do so.

With all respect to service providers i have never tried any of those services.
GL
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon

Hello Dear,
On behalf of my Cousin, I want to understand as per your opinion if the VO is CPC Ottawa, AOR 23 Dec 2020.
Eligibility - Passed, Criminality - In progress, Security - Not started. How much more time will be required to get visa approval.

Thank you in advance.
Currently all time frame are out of the window.

You will just have to wait it out and be patient.
 
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caipsnotes

Champion Member
Jan 10, 2020
2,493
1,059
Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Buffalo, NY
Honestly be sure on how to order your notes before you do so.

Your bank accounts number, passport, birth certificates, ECAs, IELTS etc.. are there and you willing to consent for virtual unknown entity to access those information not only for free but you pay them 20 bucks to do so.

With all respect to service providers i have never tried any of those services.
GL
Could not agree more that misuse of information when you get gcms can lead to fraud

Identity theft, or the theft of personal information, can be the starting point to a range of crimes — from financial fraud and forgery to abuse of government programs. The thief only needs a small amount of information, as little as your name and birth date, to start building their new identity and committing fraud. Once they access your personal information, identity thieves can also:
  • spend money from your accounts
  • open new bank accounts
  • change your passwords and contact information for your online accounts
  • apply for loans, credit cards and benefits in your name
  • rent an apartment or car
  • commit other crimes using your credentials
That is why combating identity theft requires safeguarding your information even before you arrive in Canada. Be careful in disclosing your information to third parties when you get GCMS.

There are some poorly designed/configured 3rd party GCMS websites out there that have been known to leak client information in various ways. Applicants often focus on the cost of the GCMS service in making a decision but they often end up "paying" for it in other ways.

Let's start with IRCC which with its vast resources still manages to have material privacy breaches, nine of them in the latest reporting period which only continues to grow (below is from IRCC ATIP report)

A privacy breach refers to the improper or unauthorized creation, collection, use, disclosure, retention or disposition of personal information. A material privacy breach is a privacy breach that involves sensitive personal information and could reasonably be expected to cause injury or harm to the individual.

The ATIP Division provided advice and guidance to departmental staff on containment and mitigation strategies to improve the protection of personal
information. In addition, senior officials were notified of all material breaches to facilitate communication within the Department and raise awareness of issues that could hinder the public’s right to privacy. The ATIP Division monitors all privacy breaches reported at IRCC. The Division also reviews how and
where they are occurring within the Department. ATIP addresses trends and provides tailored privacy breach training sessions to raise awareness and
increase privacy breach prevention.

In 2019-2020, IRCC notified the OPC and TBS of nine material privacy breaches. IRCC monitors all privacy breaches closely and has established notifications and remedial measures to address each situation. The majority of material breaches were of small scale and affected a limited number of
individuals.

Five material breaches involved client files that were lost, or went missing during shipment from a Case Processing Centre to one of the regional offices or to the intended recipient. The affected individuals were notified.
Three material breaches involved inadvertent disclosures of information to the wrong individual. The affected individuals were notified.
One material privacy breach involved a planned disclosure of information, which inadvertently included personal information of other individuals. Affected individuals have been notified.

3rd party GCMS providers can't match the resources of IRCC in terms of security and technology (yet IRCC has privacy breaches) and that is why your concerns are very valid.

Other things to consider:

HTTPS - it's the minimum expected to have a presence on the web. 3rd party GCMS providers need to take this further with what is called HSTS, it does not cost anything to make use of this enhanced security feature. You can do a simple check if the third party website uses HSTS or not, check here https://hstspreload.org/ This list is managed by Google and used by all major web browsers. For those interested, a full list of domains added to the HSTS preload list is available, you can search and find your 3rd party GCMS provider on this list

cloudflare.com is another great service that enhances security and all 3rd party GCMS providers should use this or something similar.

Information provided by the likes of IRCC and CBSA is NOT password protected. That is why it's the responsibility of the 3rd party GCMS provider to not only provide the information in a secure manner but ensure that the PDF file is password protected. Many simply forward the email they receive from IRCC and that just doesn't cut it. CBSA is attempting to change how it does things, see this note from CBSA;

"As requested, attached to this email is a copy of your release package. To open the file, please use the agreed upon password provided during your telephone conversation"

Immigration lawyers, registered consultants and the likes — back in the day some of these folks did not like to publicize the availability of Gcms notes; because it “ ✔ Lets you know if your representative is doing his/her job ”. Times have changed and these days some of these folks are heavily promoting this service. You ask why? For some folks it’s an opportunity to up-sell and cross-sell other services they offer like legal opinion, interpretation service, health insurance and a myriad of other services. Such services are often unnecessary to the larger audience and definitely expensive.

Here is another example of what can happen when you order your Gcms file from folks “affiliated” with a licensed immigration lawyer or “affiliated” with a registered immigration consultant. Look closely to what the image below has to say. Such “affiliations” are sometimes not in your best interest. Working with an independently operated firm has better outcomes.



Data collection — is a huge endeavour among some of these firms as well. We are not talking about anonymised data; it’s very much personal and identifiable data points that are being collected. Such data is collected from forms you complete to order your Gcms file or at times from the Gcms file itself. Ever wonder why some firms are asking for your mailing address or phone number? Gcms notes are NOT going to be mailed to you and neither is anyone going to call you to deliver the information over the phone. It’s not needed for processing your payment either. With advances in payment technology such information is increasingly becoming optional as it creates friction in the checkout process. Furthermore, why are some firms asking for a copy of your passport and visa refusal letter? It’s not required to obtain your Gcms file. Sometimes, IRCC may request such documents for validation purposes but it’s not common and absolutely not required during the initial phase when you order your file. Why provide confidential information upfront when it’s not required? It does NOT speed up your Gcms order; that is a myth because IRCC has laws about processing standards. Another interesting trend that is becoming prevalent is collecting your information and reselling it in the name of providing visa progress tracking services which are of little to no value.

It is your decision to make where you request your Gcms Notes from. Make an informed decision because it matters where you request your file from. There is a lot at stake.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello All,
Which is the safest and fastest agent/online portal to get GCMS?
There is nothing as fast. All GCMS notes are requested and processed pursuant to the Access to Information Act and have to be released within 30 days.

7 Where access to a record is requested under this Part, the head of the government institution to which the request is made shall, subject to sections 8 and 9, within 30 days after the request is received
When it comes to keeping your data safe, you will see broad claims. But when you check the websites, you will not even know where they are located and in case of a legal proceeding whom to send the notice to, as they will not disclose the address, or there details of registration or incorporation.

In Canada, any entity pursuing a business online or in a physical store, has an obligation to register they business. It is an offence to not register a business or the business name if being carried without incorporation. This is done to keep the public safe and inform them whom they re dealing with.

As per Ontario Business Names Act

Registering name
2
(1) No corporation shall carry on business or identify itself to the public under a name other than its corporate name unless the name is registered by that corporation. R.S.O. 1990, c. B.17, s. 2 (1).

Same
(2) No individual shall carry on business or identify his or her business to the public under a name other than his or her own name unless the name is registered by that individual. R.S.O. 1990, c. B.17, s. 2 (2).

Same
(3) No persons associated in partnership shall carry on business or identify themselves to the public unless the firm name of the partnership is registered by all of the partners. 1994, c. 27, s. 72 (2).

Same
(3.1) No persons associated in partnership shall carry on business or identify themselves to the public under a name other than a firm name registered under subsection (3) unless the name is registered by all of the partners. 1994, c. 27, s. 72 (2).


Offence
10
(1) Every person who, without reasonable cause, contravenes section 2 or 2.1 or subsection 4 (4) or (6) or submits a statement in an application for a registration under this Act that is false or misleading with respect to any material fact is guilty of an offence and on conviction is liable to a fine of not more than $2,000 or, if the person is a corporation, to a fine of not more than $25,000. R.S.O. 1990, c. B.17, s. 10 (1); 1998, c. 18, Sched. E, s. 37.

This registration is public information and is available on the database.
If a legal action has to be commenced. It is at the registered address on file with the authorities.


All private entities have to also comply with PIPEDA, see https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/privacy-topics/privacy-laws-in-canada/the-personal-information-protection-and-electronic-documents-act-pipeda/

To read and report on fraud and cyber crime, see https://www.antifraudcentre-centreantifraude.ca/index-eng.htm

Finally, it is your data, your choice. Do you due diligence.
 
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Canada143

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Apr 28, 2021
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Could not agree more that misuse of information when you get gcms can lead to fraud

Identity theft, or the theft of personal information, can be the starting point to a range of crimes — from financial fraud and forgery to abuse of government programs. The thief only needs a small amount of information, as little as your name and birth date, to start building their new identity and committing fraud. Once they access your personal information, identity thieves can also:
  • spend money from your accounts
  • open new bank accounts
  • change your passwords and contact information for your online accounts
  • apply for loans, credit cards and benefits in your name
  • rent an apartment or car
  • commit other crimes using your credentials
That is why combating identity theft requires safeguarding your information even before you arrive in Canada. Be careful in disclosing your information to third parties when you get GCMS.

There are some poorly designed/configured 3rd party GCMS websites out there that have been known to leak client information in various ways. Applicants often focus on the cost of the GCMS service in making a decision but they often end up "paying" for it in other ways.

Let's start with IRCC which with its vast resources still manages to have material privacy breaches, nine of them in the latest reporting period which only continues to grow (below is from IRCC ATIP report)

A privacy breach refers to the improper or unauthorized creation, collection, use, disclosure, retention or disposition of personal information. A material privacy breach is a privacy breach that involves sensitive personal information and could reasonably be expected to cause injury or harm to the individual.

The ATIP Division provided advice and guidance to departmental staff on containment and mitigation strategies to improve the protection of personal
information. In addition, senior officials were notified of all material breaches to facilitate communication within the Department and raise awareness of issues that could hinder the public’s right to privacy. The ATIP Division monitors all privacy breaches reported at IRCC. The Division also reviews how and
where they are occurring within the Department. ATIP addresses trends and provides tailored privacy breach training sessions to raise awareness and
increase privacy breach prevention.

In 2019-2020, IRCC notified the OPC and TBS of nine material privacy breaches. IRCC monitors all privacy breaches closely and has established notifications and remedial measures to address each situation. The majority of material breaches were of small scale and affected a limited number of
individuals.

Five material breaches involved client files that were lost, or went missing during shipment from a Case Processing Centre to one of the regional offices or to the intended recipient. The affected individuals were notified.
Three material breaches involved inadvertent disclosures of information to the wrong individual. The affected individuals were notified.
One material privacy breach involved a planned disclosure of information, which inadvertently included personal information of other individuals. Affected individuals have been notified.

3rd party GCMS providers can't match the resources of IRCC in terms of security and technology (yet IRCC has privacy breaches) and that is why your concerns are very valid.

Other things to consider:

HTTPS - it's the minimum expected to have a presence on the web. 3rd party GCMS providers need to take this further with what is called HSTS, it does not cost anything to make use of this enhanced security feature. You can do a simple check if the third party website uses HSTS or not, check here https://hstspreload.org/ This list is managed by Google and used by all major web browsers. For those interested, a full list of domains added to the HSTS preload list is available, you can search and find your 3rd party GCMS provider on this list

cloudflare.com is another great service that enhances security and all 3rd party GCMS providers should use this or something similar.

Information provided by the likes of IRCC and CBSA is NOT password protected. That is why it's the responsibility of the 3rd party GCMS provider to not only provide the information in a secure manner but ensure that the PDF file is password protected. Many simply forward the email they receive from IRCC and that just doesn't cut it. CBSA is attempting to change how it does things, see this note from CBSA;

"As requested, attached to this email is a copy of your release package. To open the file, please use the agreed upon password provided during your telephone conversation"

Immigration lawyers, registered consultants and the likes — back in the day some of these folks did not like to publicize the availability of Gcms notes; because it “ ✔ Lets you know if your representative is doing his/her job ”. Times have changed and these days some of these folks are heavily promoting this service. You ask why? For some folks it’s an opportunity to up-sell and cross-sell other services they offer like legal opinion, interpretation service, health insurance and a myriad of other services. Such services are often unnecessary to the larger audience and definitely expensive.

Here is another example of what can happen when you order your Gcms file from folks “affiliated” with a licensed immigration lawyer or “affiliated” with a registered immigration consultant. Look closely to what the image below has to say. Such “affiliations” are sometimes not in your best interest. Working with an independently operated firm has better outcomes.



Data collection — is a huge endeavour among some of these firms as well. We are not talking about anonymised data; it’s very much personal and identifiable data points that are being collected. Such data is collected from forms you complete to order your Gcms file or at times from the Gcms file itself. Ever wonder why some firms are asking for your mailing address or phone number? Gcms notes are NOT going to be mailed to you and neither is anyone going to call you to deliver the information over the phone. It’s not needed for processing your payment either. With advances in payment technology such information is increasingly becoming optional as it creates friction in the checkout process. Furthermore, why are some firms asking for a copy of your passport and visa refusal letter? It’s not required to obtain your Gcms file. Sometimes, IRCC may request such documents for validation purposes but it’s not common and absolutely not required during the initial phase when you order your file. Why provide confidential information upfront when it’s not required? It does NOT speed up your Gcms order; that is a myth because IRCC has laws about processing standards. Another interesting trend that is becoming prevalent is collecting your information and reselling it in the name of providing visa progress tracking services which are of little to no value.

It is your decision to make where you request your Gcms Notes from. Make an informed decision because it matters where you request your file from. There is a lot at stake.
@caipsnotes Your post worries me since I have ordered through GCMS buddy who is a third-party vendor. I have not checked their privacy laws since I did not realize it while ordering it. We got an email from IRCC after a month of the order asking for a 90-days extension. Later, I came to know that I can order myself GCMS notes since I live in Canada. I have ordered through ATIP and got the GCMS notes.

So I asked GCMS buddy guys to cancel the earlier one which we ordered and they have sent an email to IRCC and they did not get the acknowledgment yet. I don't know how legitimate they are in protecting the information. So I am kinda concerned about that.

@caipsnotes Do you think is there any way that I can ask IRCC to cancel the GCMS notes which were ordered by the GCMS buddy?
 

farazsattar

Star Member
Jul 20, 2017
106
29
38
Georgia
These are stats pre-pandemic and its only taking longer these days. Unfortunately no one can predict timelines as each case is unique and processed on it's own merits.

How long did it take to process an Express Entry application?


Processing Times for Express Entry applications finalized by year and immigration category, in months
Program201720182019
Canadian Experience Class457
Federal Skilled Worker469
Provincial/Territorial Nominee669
Federal Skilled Trades6712
All Programs558
Source: CIC_EDW (MBR) as of January 3, 2020 Data is operational and as such should be considered preliminary and subject to change.

  • Processing times refer to the time in which 80% of applications were finalized by IRCC. The processing time is measured from the day a complete application is received until the time a final decision is made by an immigration officer.
  • Source

Thank you for sharing this info