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Bill C-6: Senate stage

omss

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http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1026272/senat-modification-loi-revocation-citoyennete

omivdar said the law will have the royal assent in the 13th april
 

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omss said:
http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1026272/senat-modification-loi-revocation-citoyennete

omivdar sayed the law will have the royal assent in the 13th april
That's not possible.

https://twitter.com/ratnaomi/status/849376917224648705

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Update: @SenateCA voting NOW on Amendment to Bill C-6. Debate moves fwd, twds a vote by Apr 13 http://owl.li/CDDq30azqWh #cdnimm #cdnpoli

The vote she's talking about is 3rd reading vote on the bill. Then it has to go to the HoC.
 

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razerblade said:
That's not possible.

https://twitter.com/ratnaomi/status/849376917224648705

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Update: @SenateCA voting NOW on Amendment to Bill C-6. Debate moves fwd, twds a vote by Apr 13 http://owl.li/CDDq30azqWh #cdnimm #cdnpoli

The vote she's talking about is 3rd reading vote on the bill. Then it has to go to the HoC.
Doesn't mean HoC won't fast track it - they have already said they will.
 

omss

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im lost if u read the article u will understand the opposite

omidar said
Il reste encore au projet de loi, tel qu'amendé, à passer au vote au Sénat. Et comme il aura été amendé, il retournera, pour approbation, aux Communes.

La sénatrice Omidvar croit réaliste d'espérer une sanction royale le 13 avril, au plus tard.

maybe it s wrong in the article http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1026272/senat-modification-loi-revocation-citoyennete
 

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We don't all understand French can you translate the page so we can understand what's going on or better still post an English link
 

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Ratna Omidvar, the independent senator who fought to ensure a right of appeal to people whose citizenship is being revoked, is nearing the end of her troubles.

The Canadian Press
The Senate finally adopted Tuesday night the Senate's amendments to Bill C-6 after weeks of debate and parliamentary maneuvers.

In the minute following the vote, won by 50 to 33, the British Columbia Civil Liberties Association (CBLAA) and the Canadian Association of Refugee Lawyers (ACAADR) applauded, by press release .

The bill, as amended, remains to be put to the vote in the Senate. And as it has been amended, it will return, for approval, to the Commons.

Senator Omidvar believes it is realistic to expect royal assent by April 13 at the latest.

The primary purpose of Bill C-6 was to reverse the Harper government's revocation of Canadian citizenship to anyone with dual citizenship who is guilty of certain crimes. During the election campaign, the Liberals had repeated the slogan "A Canadian is a Canadian", denouncing the different treatment that a citizen born elsewhere would experience.

But this bill maintained the revocation of citizenship for misrepresentation without offering a right of appeal. It is this shortcoming which is being corrected by the amendments adopted on Tuesday evening.

The Trudeau government, after offering resistance to the House of Commons, was prepared to accept amendments to the Senate. It is here that the Conservatives have engaged in maneuvers to delay the inevitable, not being enough in the Senate to decide the fate of a bill.

For example, last week, every Conservative senator rose to debate C-6 and asked that the debate be suspended. This led to a vote on the suspension, which was called, by means of bells, for an hour. The ride lasted several hours.

I'm satisfied. I am very pleased that we have restored a fair procedure for citizens who lose their citizenship.

Senator Ratna Omidvar
The Senator has led her struggle with the support of the British Columbia Civil Liberties Association (CBLAA) and the Canadian Association of Refugee Lawyers (ACAADR).

"This amendment corrects the absurd situation whereby a Canadian who is at risk of losing his citizenship and being banned from his country has no right to be heard and has no opportunity to fully defend himself. On the other hand, if a Canadian gets a ticket for illegal parking, he has the right to a court hearing to defend himself, "Josh Paterson, CEO of the CCBLA, said in a statement.

The two associations had begun a struggle in the courts to obtain the right of appeal that will ultimately be contained in the law.

Senator Omidvar, in an interview with La Presse canadienne, showed some impatience. "In the end, we have to say, we have this bill in the Senate since September. It's time we do our job, "she exclaimed
 

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omss said:
Ratna Omidvar, the independent senator who fought to ensure a right of appeal to people whose citizenship is being revoked, is nearing the end of her troubles.

The Canadian Press
The Senate finally adopted Tuesday night the Senate's amendments to Bill C-6 after weeks of debate and parliamentary maneuvers.

In the minute following the vote, won by 50 to 33, the British Columbia Civil Liberties Association (CBLAA) and the Canadian Association of Refugee Lawyers (ACAADR) applauded, by press release .

The bill, as amended, remains to be put to the vote in the Senate. And as it has been amended, it will return, for approval, to the Commons.

Senator Omidvar believes it is realistic to expect royal assent by April 13 at the latest.

The primary purpose of Bill C-6 was to reverse the Harper government's revocation of Canadian citizenship to anyone with dual citizenship who is guilty of certain crimes. During the election campaign, the Liberals had repeated the slogan "A Canadian is a Canadian", denouncing the different treatment that a citizen born elsewhere would experience.

But this bill maintained the revocation of citizenship for misrepresentation without offering a right of appeal. It is this shortcoming which is being corrected by the amendments adopted on Tuesday evening.

The Trudeau government, after offering resistance to the House of Commons, was prepared to accept amendments to the Senate. It is here that the Conservatives have engaged in maneuvers to delay the inevitable, not being enough in the Senate to decide the fate of a bill.

For example, last week, every Conservative senator rose to debate C-6 and asked that the debate be suspended. This led to a vote on the suspension, which was called, by means of bells, for an hour. The ride lasted several hours.

I'm satisfied. I am very pleased that we have restored a fair procedure for citizens who lose their citizenship.

Senator Ratna Omidvar
The Senator has led her struggle with the support of the British Columbia Civil Liberties Association (CBLAA) and the Canadian Association of Refugee Lawyers (ACAADR).

"This amendment corrects the absurd situation whereby a Canadian who is at risk of losing his citizenship and being banned from his country has no right to be heard and has no opportunity to fully defend himself. On the other hand, if a Canadian gets a ticket for illegal parking, he has the right to a court hearing to defend himself, "Josh Paterson, CEO of the CCBLA, said in a statement.

The two associations had begun a struggle in the courts to obtain the right of appeal that will ultimately be contained in the law.

Senator Omidvar, in an interview with La Presse canadienne, showed some impatience. "In the end, we have to say, we have this bill in the Senate since September. It's time we do our job, "she exclaimed
fair enough. But 2 questions:

1- Does receiving royal assent mean it becomes a law?
2- And I don't understand how it can receive royal assent without going back to the HoC for the last step of voting. Can someone familiar with the process please explain?
 

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March 8, 2017—Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Omidvar, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gagné, for the third reading of Bill C-6, An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to another Act, as amended.

https://sencanada.ca/en/content/sen/chamber/421/orderpaper/109op_2017-04-05-e
It means, now the 3rd reading voting will be done today?

Experts, please confirm... If yes, then may be it can get pass the third reading today itself?
 

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Listen guys the bill now not going back to hoc again when passed from there that is it so just third reading need to vote and done. Today they gonna ready again so let see if they vote it
 

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omss said:
The Canadian Press
The Senate finally adopted Tuesday night the Senate's amendments to Bill C-6 after weeks of debate and parliamentary maneuvers.
Can you please provide a link for this story? I can't find it on the CP website or on Google News...
 

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zig_zag said:
fair enough. But 2 questions:

1- Does receiving royal assent mean it becomes a law?
2- And I don't understand how it can receive royal assent without going back to the HoC for the last step of voting. Can someone familiar with the process please explain?
Yes, royal accent means it becomes law. If won't receive royal accent until being approved by the HoC.
 

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rizwan150 said:
It means, now the 3rd reading voting will be done today?

Experts, please confirm... If yes, then may be it can get pass the third reading today itself?
Senator Eaton already said she would speak to it by end of the week or next week. it will be skipped today most likely
 

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C-6 is in the Senate agenda for today. Do you think, we can see any more progress this week?