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[Elaine_B]

Unfortunately no, the other notes are about R10 and criminality. The only possible causes of 25 points difference I can find according to CRS criteria are education and work experience based on whether I get CLB 9. My IELTS scores are R9 L8.5 W7 S7 so perfectly in line with CLB 9 standard. Also, I did not claim any additional points like siblings or arranged job in my application.

I see! And considering your IELTS score, even if they dropped your work experience to 2 years, you would be still getting 13 points under this criteria. The points difference between the application and agent's review would be 12 points only. You would still have a total of 460 CRS points, more than the 459 required by the draw.
It could be education criteria like you said, but then I believe it would appear somewhere in the report, which leads us back to work experience.
I hope this is just a mistake of calculation on their part and that it can be solved soon.

 

[wdvrdx111]

I see! And considering your IELTS score, even if they dropped your work experience to 2 years, you would be still getting 13 points under this criteria. The points difference between the application and agent's review would be 12 points only. You would still have a total of 460 CRS points, more than the 459 required by the draw.
It could be education criteria like you said, but then I believe it would appear somewhere in the report, which leads us back to work experience.
I hope this is just a mistake of calculation on their part and that it can be solved soon.

Hmmm wait. I forgot to mention my work experience is totally foreign. I'm supposed to claim 50 points for 3 yrs experience with my IELTS score, correct?

 

[Elaine_B]

Hmmm wait. I forgot to mention my work experience is totally foreign. I'm supposed to claim 50 points for 3 yrs experience with my IELTS score, correct?

Only if you had scored CLB 9 or more on all 4 categories: reading, listening, writing and speaking.
You have scored CLB 9 only in reading. Then, with 3+years of experience, you would claim 25 and, with 1-2 years foreign work experience, you would claim 13 points. But still, with this recalculation, your score would add up to 460.

Foreign work experience – With good official language proficiency (Canadian Language Benchmark Level [CLB] 7 or higher)

Years of experience	Points for foreign work experience + CLB 7 or more on all first official language abilities, one or more under 9 (Maximum 25 points)	Points for foreign work experience + CLB 9 or more on all four first official language abilities (Maximum 50 points)
No foreign work experience	0	0
1 or 2 years of foreign work experience	13	25
3 years or more of foreign work experience	25	50

 

[wdvrdx111]

Only if you had scored CLB 9 or more on all 4 categories: reading, listening, writing and speaking.
You have scored CLB 9 only in reading. Then, with 3+years of experience, you would claim 25 and, with 1-2 years foreign work experience, you would claim 13 points. But still, with this recalculation, your score would add up to 460.

Foreign work experience – With good official language proficiency (Canadian Language Benchmark Level [CLB] 7 or higher)

Years of experience	Points for foreign work experience + CLB 7 or more on all first official language abilities, one or more under 9 (Maximum 25 points)	Points for foreign work experience + CLB 9 or more on all four first official language abilities (Maximum 50 points)
No foreign work experience	0	0
1 or 2 years of foreign work experience	13	25
3 years or more of foreign work experience	25	50

I see, would you mind clarifying the Test score equivalency chart for me? I still consider my language tests are CLB 9 equivalent based on the chart and that is what their notes reflect upon my submission (3+yrs intl wrk & CLB9+allOL).
Thanks for your close reading and helpful tips!


International English Language Testing System (IELTS) – General Training – Test score equivalency chart

CLB Level	Reading	Writing	Listening	Speaking
10	8.0	7.5	8.5	7.5
9	7.0	7.0	8.0	7.0
8	6.5	6.5	7.5	6.5
7	6.0	6.0	6.0	6.0
6	5.0	5.5	5.5	5.5
5	4.0	5.0	5.0	5.0
4	3.5	4.0	4.5	4.0

 

[Elaine_B]

I see, would you mind clarifying the Test score equivalency chart for me? I still consider my language tests are CLB 9 equivalent based on the chart and that is what their notes reflect upon my submission (3+yrs intl wrk & CLB9+allOL).
Thanks for your close reading and helpful tips!


International English Language Testing System (IELTS) – General Training – Test score equivalency chart

CLB Level	Reading	Writing	Listening	Speaking
10	8.0	7.5	8.5	7.5
9	7.0	7.0	8.0	7.0
8	6.5	6.5	7.5	6.5
7	6.0	6.0	6.0	6.0
6	5.0	5.5	5.5	5.5
5	4.0	5.0	5.0	5.0
4	3.5	4.0	4.5	4.0

Ohh man! I apologize! You are totally right! You can claim 50 points!!
I forgot IELTS has this translation table to CLB. I've taken CELPIP, so I forgot this detail!

 

[wdvrdx111]

Ohh man! I apologize! You are totally right! You can claim 50 points!!
I forgot IELTS has this translation table to CLB. I've taken CELPIP, so I forgot this detail!

No worries at all! I guess the agent might just take a wrong calculation and throw away my application till now. Would you suggest writing an arguing letter to prod them a bit?

 

[Elaine_B]

Ohh man! I apologize! You are totally right! You can claim 50 points!!
I forgot IELTS has this translation table to CLB. I've taken CELPIP, so I forgot this detail!

@wdvrdx111 And then, it comes to what you are saying since the beginning. You have 472 points considering you can claim 50 points of work experience + CLB 9 in all four categories. The IRCC recalculation is considering you have 25 points in this criteria which could mean two things (i believe):
-either the agent made the same miscalculation I did and he is considering 25 points for 3+ years of experience + only one category CLB 9 or:
- he is considering you have less than 3 years experience with all 4 categories of IELTS as CLB 9

Let's hope it is the first case!! Because it says on the report CRS for work experience 3 years and 3 months.
If it is the first case, it will be easily solved by a senior agent. I believe it is really important to know where you are standing exactly, so you can fight for your points if it is the case.

 

[wdvrdx111]

@wdvrdx111 And then, it comes to what you are saying since the beginning. You have 472 points considering you can claim 50 points of work experience + CLB 9 in all four categories. The IRCC recalculation is considering you have 25 points in this criteria which could mean two things (i believe):
-either the agent made the same miscalculation I did and he is considering 25 points for 3+ years of experience + only one category CLB 9 or:
- he is considering you have less than 3 years experience with all 4 categories of IELTS as CLB 9

Let's hope it is the first case!! Because it says on the report CRS for work experience 3 years and 3 months.
If it is the first case, it will be easily solved by a senior agent. I believe it is really important to know where you are standing exactly, so you can fight for your points if it is the case.

I am really appreciative of your suggestions!
I've placed another gcms order recently and hope to get it soon so that I could realize whether this issue has been solved. Fingers crossed!

 

[Elaine_B]

I am really appreciative of your suggestions!
I've placed another gcms order recently and hope to get it soon so that I could realize whether this issue has been solved. Fingers crossed!

Fingers crossed here too. Maybe you can send them a letter through web-form about this, so it gets attached to your file before they make any decision.

@baltzly what do you think? Would a letter of explanation in this regard from @wdvrdx111 jeopardize the process in any way?

In my case, my husband was required to send a PCC from a country he stayed for 8 days only. We've sent 3 different letter of explanation through web-form, because we couldn't identify the reason for the request, it was not clear. They cancelled the request based on the web-forms we sent.

 

[jplventurina]

Hi Guys.

I received my ppr today.
My AOR was August 8. My application took 6 months and 10 days.
I received ghost update yesterday and received ppr today.
I Would also like to tell you guys that called cic yesterday and was told that my criminality is passed, eligibility is recommend passed where as security not started.

You guys were always a great support in this journey. I thank you all for all your support. Please do not loose hope. I wish that you all get your ppr soon and remember you all will get it.

what's your timeline please?

 

[LilyBee]

Country of Residence: USA
Stream: FSW Outland
CRS Score - 472
ITA - June 26, 2019
AOR - August 13, 2019
MEP - Sept 3, 2019
BIL: Sept 3, 2019
First Ghost Update - Sept 4, 2019
Biometrics given - Sept 17th, 2019

Biometrics still showing :We have not received your finger prints after 5 months, raised webform and was confirmed that my fingerprints were received
Long silence.......
6 months elapsed - Feb 13, 2020
2nd Ghost Update - Feb 19, 2020
Called IRCC today to inquire about the second ghost update, I was told everything has been passed and I should be receiving the email soon.

Patiently waiting......It feels like forever but I am relieved knowing that all including Eligibility have been passed

 

[Elaine_B]

Country of Residence: USA
Stream: FSW Outland
CRS Score - 472
ITA - June 26, 2019
AOR - August 13, 2019
MEP - Sept 3, 2019
BIL: Sept 3, 2019
First Ghost Update - Sept 4, 2019
Biometrics given - Sept 17th, 2019

Biometrics still showing :We have not received your finger prints after 5 months, raised webform and was confirmed that my fingerprints were received
Long silence.......
6 months elapsed - Feb 13, 2020
2nd Ghost Update - Feb 19, 2020
Called IRCC today to inquire about the second ghost update, I was told everything has been passed and I should be receiving the email soon.

Patiently waiting......It feels like forever but I am relieved knowing that all including Eligibility have been passed

Congratulations! I'm sure it will take a couple of days now. Don't forget to check in the spam and junk e-mail boxes. I have read in some threads that some applicants almost missed the deadline because the PPR e-mail went to the junk e-mail.

 

[jplventurina]

AOR: AUGUST 21, 2019
VO: CIO SYDNEY
ELIGIBILITY PASSED


- JAN 21, 2020


MEDICAL PASSED


- JAN 21, 2020


ADDITIONAL DOCS


- We are reviewing the additional documents you provided. (FEB 19, 2020)


INTERVIEW


- DO NOT NEED


BIOMETRICS


- JANUARY 14, 2020


BACKGROUND CHECK


- CRIMINALITY = PASSED


- SECURITY = NOT STARTED

Anyone who has the same timeline? Thank you

 

[LilyBee]

Congratulations! I'm sure it will take a couple of days now. Don't forget to check in the spam and junk e-mail boxes. I have read in some threads that some applicants almost missed the deadline because the PPR e-mail went to the junk e-mail.

Thanks, and yes I do check my spam emails as well... I can't wait. I had moved to a different address after I got AOR, but I chose not to update my address as I thought it would complicate the process, i am a student and currently live on campus, but i still have access to my previous address as its my family house. I started wondering the reason for my delay in background check so I decided to update my address last week. All of a sudden I got a ghost update yesterday, so maybe the discrepancies in my address was causing the delay. I am thankful that all would soon be over...

 

[Drogon]

Hello everyone.
Aor aug 20. Fsw outland.
Six months crossed yesterday. Called ircc and found vo moved to Winnipeg from Montreal.
criminality and medical passed. Eligibility requires review and security not started.
I don't know how much longer it is going to take.