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legalfalcon

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My eligibility is passed and now background checks are ongoing. Background check started on 25th feb, 2019. Should I order gcms notes or no need? Will it help me get any substantial clarity regarding at which point my application is at and how more long it will take?
If your eligibility has passed, the GCMS notes won't offer anything new as security is retracted in GCMS notes. Just wait patiently.
 
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legalfalcon

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AOR Received.
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Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
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12-04-2016
LANDED..........
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@legalfalcon, or someone please advise
It all depends on the documents. the review required is a way for the analyst to ask the officer to review certain documents before a final decision on eligibility is made.

If your documents comply with the IRCC requirements, no need to worry.
 

Atjose

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It all depends on the documents. the review required is a way for the analyst to ask the officer to review certain documents before a final decision on eligibility is made.

If your documents comply with the IRCC requirements, no need to worry.
Thanx sir for Ur valuable words..!!!
 

legalfalcon

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AOR Received.
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@legalfalcon I have 9 days to go to reach the 6 months processing milestone and I am still in IP1 stage and eligibility being reviewed. Can my employer apply for a work permit for me. Or if my employer provides an offer letter from Canada will that speed up my application?

Looking forward to your valuable thoughts.

Thank you very much,
Vasanth
The 6 months processing time frame starts when your R10 is passed and not your date of AOR. Also, there is no stage as IP1.

All application go through the following:

R10
Criminality
Medicals
Eligibility
Security

You should see your GCMS notes notes to see at what stage your application is at.
 

legalfalcon

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Hey @legalfalcon, Hoping you can help me with the following:
I applied back in May 4th 2018 under CEC, am inland. Am stuck in BGC and Eligibility checks right now. My file has a BFD. Am starting to wonder what can be wrong with my application, and the only thing I can start to be concerned about is one of the NOCs I put down for my foreign experience:
Am claiming:
2 years of canadian work experience at company A
4 years of foreign experience at same company A - I was an intra-company transfer.
2 years of foreign experience at a different company back in my country. This is the one am concerned about, reg the NOC.

If they have doubts about it, will they ask for additional info?
Thanks!
Have you requested your GCMS notes to see where your application is stuck?

Making speculation about what may be wrong is not a good thing. Instead rely on solid evidence.
 

SurajRam

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Hi everyone! I posted the same query on Sep AOR thread. I believe, like me, not many there have much clue about this. So I am still waiting for an input. I received my notes yesterday and need inputs on what further actions I should take. Or, should I do just nothing and wait. Your feed back will be very valuable. I have 'X'ed out all parts that would point out to me or any organisation. Thanks.

NOTES
NOTES: 1
Created Date: 2019/01/08
Created By: SH18299
Updated Date: 2019/01/08
Updated By: SH18299
Restricted: No Label: EE Eligibility Office: CPC-Ottawa Text:
Case Analyst: Review Required Lock-in Date: 2018-09-13_E001XXXXX0 PA: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX - EE FSW Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.
ANALYST
RECOMMENDATION: Review Required M13 SUMMARY NOTES: SEEMS PA WAS DIRECTOR OF COMPANY AND HAD NO ANNUAL FIXED INCOME-SEE EDOC 243543397. APPEARS PA HAS SIGNED GIFT DEED ON FILE-
VERIFIED IN TRANSACTIONS WHICH MAKES UP MOST OF THE DECLARED FUNDS FOR SETTLEMENT. A 11.2:
Appears Met R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS/Funds: Appears Met FSW points total: 72 Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete
Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 448 CRS points minimum score for round: 440 CRS score at application (APR): 448 1 have reviewed the following for CRS points: PA gained points as SINGLE at ITA and APR PA gained points for 3+ year(s) Foreign Work Experience with "XXXX Energy Systems Pvt Ltd, edoc# 243543397"
INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA: No trace other than present application
FAMILY
COMPOSITION: SINGLE; never married No indication of previous marriages/cl partners No declared children
MEDICALS: All valid for 6 months or more PASSPORTS: All valid for 6 months or more
WORK
EXPERIENCE: Lock-in Date: 2018-09-13 Primary Occupation: NOC 0125 Other business services managers EDUCATION CREDENTIAL(S) PROVIDED: Bachelor's Degree: Bachelor of Engineering; Master's Degree: Project Manager in European and International Organizations 2009-01 to 2014-11 - Business Operations Manager (NOC:
0125) - at XXXX Energy Systems Pvt Ltd - eDoc# 243543397 - Web-based search confirms employer information - Letter dated 15MARCH2018 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. NOTE: APPEARS PA PROVIDED COMPANY INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS AND LOE-SEEMS PA WAS DIRECTOR OF COMPANY AND HAD NO ANNUAL FIXED INCOME-SEE EDOC 243543397NOTES TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR 2012 TO 2015-LETTER FROM KARNATAKA POWER
CORPORATION LTD-LETTER FROM XXXXX PVT. LTD-LETTER FROM HINDUSTAN XXXXX
LIMITED-CORPORATE DOCUMENTS-SEE EDOC 243543397 - Letter confirms full/time employment; FSW Work: 5 years and 11 months. CRS Foreign Work: 5 years and 11 months. FSW Work: 1 year CRS Foreign Work: 3+ year (s) WORK
EXPERIENCE: 4-5 year(s), 13 FSW Points
SETTLEMENT FUNDS: Appears To Meet Approx. CAD $18442 - CAD $CAD 18442 as per HDFC Bank statement at 03SEPT2018; Family of 1 requires CAD $12 475 NOTE: APPEARS PA PROVIDED BANK BALANCE
CONFIRMATION CERTIFICATE WITH BANK STAMP FOR DECLARED FUNDS. APPEARS PA HAS SIGNED GIFT DEED ON FILE-VERIFIED IN TRANSACTIONS.
NOTES: 2
Created Date: 2019/01/07
Created By: SH18299
Updated Date: 2019/01/07
Updated By: SH18299
Restricted: No
Label: Adm/CriminaIity
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: ----- PM-Ol Assessment ----- Primary Applicant 1- France police certificate: Provided-NRT 2- India police certificate: Provided-NRT RIO OK Pass Criminality
NOTES: 3
Created Date: 2018/10/29
Created By: ND19801
Updated Date: 2018/10/29
Updated By: ND19801
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: PReVU Verified (applicant information)
NOTES: 4
Created Date: 2018/10/10
Created By: AW03043
Updated Date: 2018/10/10
Updated By: AW03043
Restricted: No
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: Centralized Intake Office Text:
REVIEW TYPE: Program Assistant APPLICATION E001XXXXX0 REGULATION: FSW have reviewed this application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. MIN.SCORE: 440 CRS SCORE: 448 Principal Applicant Application Promoted: New UCI Primary Applicant Medical Attached to UCI: Yes Client Fees: Verified -LANGUAGES----- Principal Applicant English- 'El-TS and Met Threshold & Verified ---- -EDUCATION----- Primary Applicant ECA report Verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Bachelor's Degree (4 years) Foreign credential provided ECA report Verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Master's Degree Foreign credential provided -----POLICE CERTIFICATE----Primary Applicant France police certificate: Provided-NRT India police certificate: Provided-NRT RIO OK Recommendation: Pass Criminality -----AGE----- Applicant's age reviewed and Changed from ITA to e-APR ----DOCUMENTS SET FOR REVIEW Client Information
Hey @legalfalcon can I request you to have a quick look at this? Need to know if I should just wait or gather some kind of documents. Thanks :)
 

vasanthchenna23

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Dec 18, 2018
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The 6 months processing time frame starts when your R10 is passed and not your date of AOR. Also, there is no stage as IP1.

All application go through the following:

R10
Criminality
Medicals
Eligibility
Security

You should see your GCMS notes notes to see at what stage your application is at.
Thank you!
 

NZ_ozzie

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Sep 4, 2018
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@legalfalcon Thanks a lot for getting back to me....

I will quickly give you a run down of my issue....

My mistake was choosing wrong primary NOC on online form where you choose the primary NOC code.
All my explanations are for 2282 but just on the drop down menu on online form I chose 2281 instead of 2282 by mistake while scrolling through the list.

As per CPA:
SUMMARY NOTES: CLIENT DID NOT MEET MEC AS THEY DID NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH EVIDENCE OF AT LEAST 1 YEAR WORK EXPERIENCE IN THE REQUIRED PRIMARY NOC. PRIMARY NOC ON APPLICATION IS 2281 - COMPUTER NETWORK TECHNICIANS AND ALL OF PA'S WORK EXPERIENCE IS IN NOC 2282- USER SUPPORT TECHNICIANS.


I know everyone else with Review required/eligibility not met has a NOC mismatch or job responsibilities issue...
Mine is a very unique and silly mistake of choosing wrong code on the online form.

Do you reckon they might consider my case and approve it or more chances of refusal?

All my experience is in NOC 2282...And the CPA's comments have verified all the work experience as per correct NOC 2282 as well(as per notes below):
Support Engineer (NOC: 2282) - at - eDoc# - Letter dated 2018-09-03 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of XXX PER HOUR - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Foreign Work: 0 years and 2 months. 2011-10 to 2012-07 - Level 1 Support Specialist (NOC: 2282) - at xxxxx New Zealand Limited - eDoc# xxxxxx - Letter dated 2018-09-11 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of xxx NZ PER HOUR - Letter confirms part/time (15hrs/week) employment CRS Foreign Work: 0 years and 5 months. 2009-09 to 2012-07 - Service Desk Analyst (NOC: 2282) - at XXXXXXX XXXX New Zealand Limited - eDoc# XXXXXXX - Letter dated 2018-09-20 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of xxxxx NZD ANNUALY - Letter confirms part/ time (20hrs/week) employment CRS Foreign Work: 1 year and 11.3 months. 2013-08 to 2018-03 - Field Service Engineer (NOC: 2282) - at XXXXXX Private Ltd. - eDoc# XXXXXXX - Letter dated 2018-09-05 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of xxxxxxx ANNUAL Y - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Foreign Work: 4 years and 8 months. FSW Work: 0 years(s) 0 month(s) of 1 year(s) - REVIEW REQUIRED CRS Foreign Work: 3+ year(s)
___________________________________

WORK EXPERIENCE: 6+ year(s), 15 FSW Points

**********************************************************
 

knight17

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Jan 7, 2016
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5
Category........
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NOC Code......
1111
App. Filed.......
23-02-2019
AOR Received.
23-02-2019
Do they always send a procedural fairness letter if the applicant has passed the R10 Checks?

Since your R10 is OK, your application will move and if there is any rejection, it will only be after a procedural fairness letter is sent. So it is better that you meet the above, if you do not before a PFL is even sent.
 

Kim_kabayan

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Jun 21, 2017
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Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
26-10-2017
Doc's Request.
22-12-2017
Nomination.....
10-08-2018
AOR Received.
oct 19 2018
Passport Req..
11-04-2019
VISA ISSUED...
16-05-2019
Do they always send a procedural fairness letter if the applicant has passed the R10 Checks?
Same question. Can anyone answer to this? Thanks
 

Gambit07

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Mar 15, 2019
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@legalfalcon and other senior folks , need your help with my application

AOR - 8 Aug 2018
FSW

Received my GCMS notes(82 pages) 2 days back and it states the following -

Primary Office - CPC Ottawa
Ministerial Instructions - EE-MI1

Eligibility - Met
Security - Not started
Criminality - Passed
Medical - Passed

No mention of section 15.1 or 16 on any pages

I had couple of questions regarding this -

1. In eligibility , it states met instead of Passed. I read in one of the threads that it requires a seniors approval to change eligibility to passed? Is there any way I can expedite this

2, Its been seven months and my security hasn't started and there is no mention of Section 15/16 , which means its not security screening. What is happening with my security process?

I would be grateful if I could be provided guidance.
 
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legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
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FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon and other senior folks , need your help with my application

AOR - 8 Aug 2018
FSW

Received my GCMS notes(82 pages) 2 days back and it states the following -

Primary Office - CPC Ottawa
Ministerial Instructions - EE-MI1

Eligibility - Met
Security - Not started
Criminality - Passed
Medical - Passed

No mention of section 15.1 or 16 on any pages

I had couple of questions regarding this -

1. In eligibility , it states met instead of Passed. I read in one of the threads that it requires a seniors approval to change eligibility to passed? Is there any way I can expedite this

2, Its been seven months and my security hasn't started and there is no mention of Section 15/16 , which means its not security screening. What is happening with my security process?

I would be grateful if I could be provided guidance.
For s 15 and 16 see https://www.getgcms.com/blog/s15-s16-top-right-gcms-denote/

See the notes in the last 3-5 pages. Usually the eligibility takes place in 2 stages. First, an analyst will review and make a recommendation and then the officer will make a final determination. In you case only the recommendation part may have been done. As soon as the eligibility is passed, the security will start.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
13,574
7,045
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Do they always send a procedural fairness letter if the applicant has passed the R10 Checks?
Yes, see https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/service-delivery/procedural-fairness.html

For R10, which is the completeness check,

10 (1) Subject to paragraphs 28(b) to (d) and 139(1)(b), an application under these Regulations shal
  • (c) include all information and documents required by these Regulations, as well as any other evidence required by the Act;
If any information is missing, the application is deemed incomplete and is refused.
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
13,574
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon Thanks a lot for getting back to me....

I will quickly give you a run down of my issue....

My mistake was choosing wrong primary NOC on online form where you choose the primary NOC code.
All my explanations are for 2282 but just on the drop down menu on online form I chose 2281 instead of 2282 by mistake while scrolling through the list.

As per CPA:
SUMMARY NOTES: CLIENT DID NOT MEET MEC AS THEY DID NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH EVIDENCE OF AT LEAST 1 YEAR WORK EXPERIENCE IN THE REQUIRED PRIMARY NOC. PRIMARY NOC ON APPLICATION IS 2281 - COMPUTER NETWORK TECHNICIANS AND ALL OF PA'S WORK EXPERIENCE IS IN NOC 2282- USER SUPPORT TECHNICIANS.


I know everyone else with Review required/eligibility not met has a NOC mismatch or job responsibilities issue...
Mine is a very unique and silly mistake of choosing wrong code on the online form.

Do you reckon they might consider my case and approve it or more chances of refusal?

All my experience is in NOC 2282...And the CPA's comments have verified all the work experience as per correct NOC 2282 as well(as per notes below):
Support Engineer (NOC: 2282) - at - eDoc# - Letter dated 2018-09-03 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of XXX PER HOUR - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Foreign Work: 0 years and 2 months. 2011-10 to 2012-07 - Level 1 Support Specialist (NOC: 2282) - at xxxxx New Zealand Limited - eDoc# xxxxxx - Letter dated 2018-09-11 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of xxx NZ PER HOUR - Letter confirms part/time (15hrs/week) employment CRS Foreign Work: 0 years and 5 months. 2009-09 to 2012-07 - Service Desk Analyst (NOC: 2282) - at XXXXXXX XXXX New Zealand Limited - eDoc# XXXXXXX - Letter dated 2018-09-20 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of xxxxx NZD ANNUALY - Letter confirms part/ time (20hrs/week) employment CRS Foreign Work: 1 year and 11.3 months. 2013-08 to 2018-03 - Field Service Engineer (NOC: 2282) - at XXXXXX Private Ltd. - eDoc# XXXXXXX - Letter dated 2018-09-05 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of xxxxxxx ANNUAL Y - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Foreign Work: 4 years and 8 months. FSW Work: 0 years(s) 0 month(s) of 1 year(s) - REVIEW REQUIRED CRS Foreign Work: 3+ year(s)
___________________________________

WORK EXPERIENCE: 6+ year(s), 15 FSW Points

**********************************************************
If you send a CSE and explain the issue, then it all depends on the discretion of the officer. In most cases they will understand and let the file proceed.
 

Manob75

Full Member
Apr 2, 2016
40
5
47
Bangladesh
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Singapore
App. Filed.......
26-10-2016
Nomination.....
29-06-2016
AOR Received.
06-01-2017
File Transfer...
17-01-2017
Med's Request
13-02-2019
Med's Done....
03-03-2019
Any suggestion or prediction please...
Application to CIC: 26/10/2016
AOR: 06/01/2017
Eligibility+Criminality pass:11/12/2017
SS initiated: 12/12/2017
SS started:05/02/2018
Med and RPRF request: 13/02/2019
RPRF paid: 16/02/2019
Medical Completed: 03/03/2019
Medical Received: 09/03/2019

Tired of waiting. MPNP candidate with military background.

Any comment please..