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I dont know if this is a good news for the pre 2008 applicants.. :( does anyone here knows the result of the hearing yesterday for the class action lawsuit?
 

sbernados

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Good for you ASK your not a pre-2008 applicants. You dont have the same story for those who struggle hard and wasted their 8 years waiting for this big move! I'm one of them. I think CIC should not only refund the money, they should also return the 8 years that we lost!

ASK said:
Well, the good news is that who so ever is waiting for so long and if their eligibility criteria meets that of CIC can expect their applications to get processed in the near future. I am not rejoicing on the fact that some applicants pre Feb 2008 were removed. Just like for a job interview, not everyone who applies for it gets the job!!! Its a part and parcel of life. I am not sure if they prohibit you from re-applying in future, the waiting period is going to be much less of they clear the backlog.

Even if every one on this planet works hard, their rewards or achievements / accomplishments are not the same!!! Have faith and patience. Your life will move on whether you are in Canada or in the country where you are. Just give your best and find joy in what you do...That is all I can say.
 

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nicholas30 said:
These are promises made, the point is will they fullfill it!!!!!!!!!!
OMG...OMG...Why am I being crucified here for sharing something what I thought will bring a smile on many a thousands of applicants!?!

We will all be delighted if they keep their promise and timeline. My application is processed at London Visa Office. Towards the end of each 'Application Processing Timings' they brutally add another 2 to 3 months. Believe me, I am also a victim of this, though not suffering in silence for as long as many others here...

I have personally known many others who applied after June 2010, who got inspired by me and filed their application. They all have already landed in Canada and it sounds ridiculous to hear them talk about how fast the Canadian Immigration Processing times are when am still waiting and waiting without any clue when my turn will come!!!...Good for them. But it is totally frustrating for those who have to wait longer in spite of making an earlier move...In this blog,I have come across some applicants who applied and landed in less than 5 months!!! So, I don't know whom to blame - my profession / my luck / their system ?!?

Come what may, life must go on where ever we are and our aim should be to live life fullest and give everything we are in to our best shot...Let Canada happen to you all...Good luck
 

ASK

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sbernados said:
Good for you ASK your not a pre-2008 applicants. You dont have the same story for those who struggle hard and wasted their 8 years waiting for this big move! I'm one of them. I think CIC should not only refund the money, they should also return the 8 years that we lost!
Dear sbernados,

I completely understand your sentiments when you say that. I may not have waited as much you did, but Canada is definitely not the beginning and end of the world!!! I don't know where you are from, but please don't loose hope in life just because Canada has not opened it doors for you yet...CIC might have their own set of explanations and justifications. My only friendly advice to you is - keep focused on what you are doing now and come out as the best in that field of practice. This will only help you in future when ever you land in Canada. If need be, you can file your application again as a student, if you are willing to invest some more time in education. Once a student there, it is much easier to apply for PR...based on my limited knowledge about their system. Come on...Cheer up
 

ASK

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mandiebraxton said:
Yea, exactly what I thought myself!!! They paint a glowing picture of how fast the process is going to be, but this so called fast processing happens in only selected few VOs like NDVO, LVO, Manila etc!!

*Mandie*
Believe me Mandie, these so called Visa Offices are also not that fast enough. Compared to many Canadian VOs, they might be faster. But looking at the immigration system of Australia, New Zealand, UK or any other country inviting immigrants, these process timings are slow or as fast as a snail!
 

mississaugans

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Dear sbernados,

I completely understand your sentiments when you say that. I may not have waited as much you did, but Canada is definitely not the beginning and end of the world!!! I don't know where you are from, but please don't loose hope in life just because Canada has not opened it doors for you yet...CIC might have their own set of explanations and justifications. My only friendly advice to you is - keep focused on what you are doing now and come out as the best in that field of practice. This will only help you in future when ever you land in Canada. If need be, you can file your application again as a student, if you are willing to invest some more time in education. Once a student there, it is much easier to apply for PR...based on my limited knowledge about their system. Come on...Cheer up
I don´t know if you are too selfish, inmature or just too young to understand others suffering, but let me tell you that you have to watch your words when the fact you are talking about and cheering up is the misfortune of too many families who spent time, money and hopes because for most of them is not a happy choice to leave their country ... It is about having no other choices and you don´t even know how young are them or if is it possible to make another application after 5,6,7 or 8 years ... Please try to deal with your enthusiasm and think better about what you write because what you show is a lack of human solidarity...
I hope you can take this as an advice for your own good and not as a personal attack...
 

ASK

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mississaugans said:
I don´t know if you are too selfish, inmature or just too young to understand others suffering, but let me tell you that you have to watch your words when the fact you are talking about and cheering up is the misfortune of too many families who spent time, money and hopes because for most of them is not a happy choice to leave their country ... It is about having no other choices and you don´t even know how young are them or if is it possible to make another application after 5,6,7 or 8 years ... Please try to deal with your enthusiasm and think better about what you write because what you show is a lack of human solidarity...
I hope you can take this as an advice for your own good and not as a personal attack...
Dear mississaugans,

Thanks for your comments. I apologize if I had hurt any ones feelings. I will not take it as a personal attack. When I am writing this, I remain an applicant like many thousand of others here waiting for a response on file from CIC. I have also paid fees to CIC not because I have too much money lying around or one fine day I thought why not Canada? It has been tough for me too, but that doesn't mean I give up all my hopes in life. If anyone who had read my previous posts within this topic, one will understand what I say. I have not deliberately hurt any ones sentiments, but have always tried to give a positive ray of hope in their life. That is what I do normally in my life if I see a person who feels low and need some cheering.

I am staying in another country where I cannot own a land or property even if I spent my whole career here and my duration of stay here is only till my good relationships end with my company or sponsor. It can happen today, tomorrow or may not happen at all!!! I also live in the middle of so many uncertainties in another country, hoping to get my application approved for Canada. That has no meaning that one should live without enthusiasm in life. Life is a gift of God. You only can make it worthy by your actions where ever you are.

Let others too comment if they feel I am selfish and immature...
 

Maniraha

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sbernados said:
I dont know if this is a good news for the pre 2008 applicants.. :( does anyone here knows the result of the hearing yesterday for the class action lawsuit?
Dear friends

just see this topic loks very sad
hope can get good news soon

Here's an excerpt from the e-mail received from Tim Leahy:

On Tuesday, September 18th, Justice Barnes refused to enjoin CIC from acting on the provision Jason Kenney tucked into Bill C-38, the budget implementation bill, abolishing the immigrant visa applications of 86,000+ skilled workers, who had been waiting in the immigration queue for four to eight years. Justice Barnes did not, however, rule on the legality of the provision closing the FSW applications. A different judge will make that ruling sometime in mid- to late-2013.



Applicants' counsel were seeking an injunction barring CIC from (a) destroying the FSW files and (b) refunding the processing fee so long as the matter was before the courts. CIC told the Federal Court that it would not destroy the files for two years, obviating any need to enjoin it from doing so; and Justice Barnes dismissed applicants' counsels' concern that, if FSW applicants cashed the refund cheques, they would lose their right to have their files processed if the applicants' litigation prevailed. Justice Barnes stated that, in his view, all they would have to do would be to repay the refund cheque and their file would be reinstated. Justice Barnes appears to fear upsetting Jason Kenney by impeding his effort to abolish as many files as he can in order to have a “just in time” process.



Applicants' counsel themselves were not united on the need for such an injunction, believing, as Justice Barnes ruled, that their litigants interested were protected. The real need for the injunction was for the FSW applicants who have not joined the litigation. If they cash the refund cheque, applicants' counsel fear, the FSW applicants will be signing away their right to have their files processed. Justice Barnes cited no authority at the hearing to support his view that all they would have to so would be to repay the fee. If he truly believes what he said, Justice Barnes will affirm this view in his written reasons for denying the injunction. Justice Barnes did state, however, that applicants' counsel may raise the issue again if CIC reverses its pledge not to destroy the FSW files for two years.



The injunction was needed because the Federal Court has not ruled on whether the litigation should proceed as a true class-action lawsuit or as individual litigants moving forward together. In a class-action, all members of the class will receive the same benefit if the litigation prevails. In managed litigation, the ruling will only govern the fate of those who joined the litigation, leaving those who have not joined out in the cold. The Court set the hearing on class certification for November 16th.



Justice Barnes reiterated his preference for managed litigation over a class-action lawsuit. Justice Barnes had previously stated that, because, if the Court strikes down the provision closing the FSW files, the result would affect all FSW applicants, there is no need to certify a class. That view, however, presumes that those who cash their refund cheques will not, by so doing, have effectively abandoned their immigrant-visa application.


The approach, therefore, Justice Barnes took at the hearing on the injunction is more important than the ruling itself. The more important decisions he will take will be on the motion seeking to enforce the Agreement for the unfairCIC.com group and on the issue of permitting a class-action lawsuit. The former can come any day now; the latter, not until late November at the earliest. Justice Barnes revealed on September 18th that he is not comfortable ruling against Jason Kenney, preferring instead to have counsel for both sides reach their own agreement. The test of this approach, however, will come when he rules on the unfairCIC.com motion. If Justice Barnes refuse to enforce the Agreement, he will make clear that applicants' counsel should never sign an agreement with Immigration Canada because it may break the agreement, and the Federal Court will stand idly by, looking the other way. Likewise, if Justice Barnes refuses to enforce the Agreement and refuses to set the other litigants' cases down for hearings, he will demonstrate that “managed proceedings” area fraud.



Therefore, although Justice Barnes' denying the injunction is meaningless in so far as the actual litigants are concerned because CIC has agreed not to destroy the files – only those who cash a refund cheque may be at risk – how he rules on the unfairCIC.com motion will affect how applicants should proceed in the challenge to the closing of their files, making a true class action as the only credible, viable option. While the optics of the ruling will inflict Angst on those whose files have been closed, it has no bearing on the merits of their cause. And, if CIC keeps its word – and Justice Barnes' puts in his written reasons that cashing a refund cheque will not mean that they have abandoned their FSW applications – the injunction would have been redundant anyway.


Regards,


Tim
 

ASK

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Maniraha said:
Dear friends

just see this topic loks very sad
hope can get good news soon

Here's an excerpt from the e-mail received from Tim Leahy:

On Tuesday, September 18th, Justice Barnes refused to enjoin CIC from acting on the provision Jason Kenney tucked into Bill C-38, the budget implementation bill, abolishing the immigrant visa applications of 86,000+ skilled workers, who had been waiting in the immigration queue for four to eight years. Justice Barnes did not, however, rule on the legality of the provision closing the FSW applications. A different judge will make that ruling sometime in mid- to late-2013.



Applicants' counsel were seeking an injunction barring CIC from (a) destroying the FSW files and (b) refunding the processing fee so long as the matter was before the courts. CIC told the Federal Court that it would not destroy the files for two years, obviating any need to enjoin it from doing so; and Justice Barnes dismissed applicants' counsels' concern that, if FSW applicants cashed the refund cheques, they would lose their right to have their files processed if the applicants' litigation prevailed. Justice Barnes stated that, in his view, all they would have to do would be to repay the refund cheque and their file would be reinstated. Justice Barnes appears to fear upsetting Jason Kenney by impeding his effort to abolish as many files as he can in order to have a “just in time” process.



Applicants' counsel themselves were not united on the need for such an injunction, believing, as Justice Barnes ruled, that their litigants interested were protected. The real need for the injunction was for the FSW applicants who have not joined the litigation. If they cash the refund cheque, applicants' counsel fear, the FSW applicants will be signing away their right to have their files processed. Justice Barnes cited no authority at the hearing to support his view that all they would have to so would be to repay the fee. If he truly believes what he said, Justice Barnes will affirm this view in his written reasons for denying the injunction. Justice Barnes did state, however, that applicants' counsel may raise the issue again if CIC reverses its pledge not to destroy the FSW files for two years.



The injunction was needed because the Federal Court has not ruled on whether the litigation should proceed as a true class-action lawsuit or as individual litigants moving forward together. In a class-action, all members of the class will receive the same benefit if the litigation prevails. In managed litigation, the ruling will only govern the fate of those who joined the litigation, leaving those who have not joined out in the cold. The Court set the hearing on class certification for November 16th.



Justice Barnes reiterated his preference for managed litigation over a class-action lawsuit. Justice Barnes had previously stated that, because, if the Court strikes down the provision closing the FSW files, the result would affect all FSW applicants, there is no need to certify a class. That view, however, presumes that those who cash their refund cheques will not, by so doing, have effectively abandoned their immigrant-visa application.


The approach, therefore, Justice Barnes took at the hearing on the injunction is more important than the ruling itself. The more important decisions he will take will be on the motion seeking to enforce the Agreement for the unfairCIC.com group and on the issue of permitting a class-action lawsuit. The former can come any day now; the latter, not until late November at the earliest. Justice Barnes revealed on September 18th that he is not comfortable ruling against Jason Kenney, preferring instead to have counsel for both sides reach their own agreement. The test of this approach, however, will come when he rules on the unfairCIC.com motion. If Justice Barnes refuse to enforce the Agreement, he will make clear that applicants' counsel should never sign an agreement with Immigration Canada because it may break the agreement, and the Federal Court will stand idly by, looking the other way. Likewise, if Justice Barnes refuses to enforce the Agreement and refuses to set the other litigants' cases down for hearings, he will demonstrate that “managed proceedings” area fraud.



Therefore, although Justice Barnes' denying the injunction is meaningless in so far as the actual litigants are concerned because CIC has agreed not to destroy the files – only those who cash a refund cheque may be at risk – how he rules on the unfairCIC.com motion will affect how applicants should proceed in the challenge to the closing of their files, making a true class action as the only credible, viable option. While the optics of the ruling will inflict Angst on those whose files have been closed, it has no bearing on the merits of their cause. And, if CIC keeps its word – and Justice Barnes' puts in his written reasons that cashing a refund cheque will not mean that they have abandoned their FSW applications – the injunction would have been redundant anyway.


Regards,


Tim
Dear Maniraha, thanks for sharing the info. It was a very valuable post opening up ground reality beyond CIC website. I have taken an extract from unfairCIC.com homepage. Please find it below and share it if you agree:

LITIGATION FOR WAREHOUSED SKILLED WORKER APPLICANTS
We are currently engaged in seeking redress to the queue-jumping processing policy Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) imposed in 2008, victimizing all those who applied before 27 February 2008 to immigrate to Canada as skilled workers; and its abject failure to honour the promise it made to those who applied after 27 February 2008 and before 26 June 2010 and who now find themselves in the same black hole as those who had applied before them. If you object to what CIC has done to you and wish to raise your voice, please join us.

Thanks
 

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Bilal83...It's not you but nice girl .... ;D ...I think she is very happy to see CIC has removed Pre Feb 2008
 

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I mean ASK....Did she change her nick name? ??? I was remember she used nice girl as her nick name
 

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sunsun said:
I mean ASK....Did she change her nick name? ??? I was remember she used nice girl as her nick name
It was 'Nice Lady' I guess...You can search among forum members to find her...

Well, the matter related to removal of Pre-Feb 2008 is still under judicial hearing I guess...It is unfair to remove many applicants after making them wait for years...Either they should have said No at the very beginning or should have processed their applications faster...A friend of mine who applied prior Feb 2008 visited London Visa Office last year after taking an appointment. He got his Visa issued on the same day from there...If nothing else works, am gonna try the same.
 

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My friend went to Singapore High Commission in 2010,2011 and 2012....the receptionist told him just wait and wait and wait.... :'(
 

sunsun

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Your friend got visa issuedon the same day? Without medical ? :eek:
 

ASK

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Med's Done....
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Passport Req..
04 June 2013
VISA ISSUED...
01 July 2013
LANDED..........
06 Oct 2013 (hopefully)
sunsun said:
My friend went to Singapore High Commission in 2010,2011 and 2012....the receptionist told him just wait and wait and wait.... :'(
Well, the friend whom I was referring to, took an appointment before visiting the London visa with his family...I will find out from him what reasons he gave to get it done. Also, if he had done his medical before reaching London... Since I don't have the full info on that right now, it is unfair to post any comments.