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[bjar]

thanks for the reply my dear.

yes my wife has better chances since her degree is a 5 Yr course, and her age also has an advantage.

if i were to based if she can get the ielts all 7 , her CRS ranking will be on th 403 pts.

do you think 403 pts has enough change to be invited?

If you could improve the listening part to band 8, your score would dramatically increase.

 

[arthurmr]

thanks for the reply my dear.

yes my wife has better chances since her degree is a 5 Yr course, and her age also has an advantage.

if i were to based if she can get the ielts all 7 , her CRS ranking will be on th 403 pts.

do you think 403 pts has enough change to be invited?

Is this her individual CRS or it already has your scores as her spouse included? Spouse scores can add around 50pts to the primary applicant.

The EE draw pts now are still around 450, but if you check the trend (which is available in the CIC official website and cicnews.com), they have dropped to low 400s and high 300s in the past.

Might be good to consider the PNP route too. Check out each province's preferred occupations, see where you or your wife can fall under. Aside from paying for another application fee, the reqts of PNPs are generally the same as EE so you can reuse your docs.

 

[angelistamaria]

Is this her individual CRS or it already has your scores as her spouse included? Spouse scores can add around 50pts to the primary applicant.
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Might be good to consider the PNP route too. Check out each province's preferred occupations, see where you or your wife can fall under. Aside from paying for another application fee, the reqts of PNPs are generally the same as EE so you can reuse your docs.

Out of curiosity: since receiving a provincial nomination will award you extra points (600, right?) which will very well likely guarantee an ITA, couldn't he be the primary applicant if his occupation is more in-demand?

 

[rl03]

Is this her individual CRS or it already has your scores as her spouse included? Spouse scores can add around 50pts to the primary applicant.

The EE draw pts now are still around 450, but if you check the trend (which is available in the CIC official website and cicnews.com), they have dropped to low 400s and high 300s in the past.

Might be good to consider the PNP route too. Check out each province's preferred occupations, see where you or your wife can fall under. Aside from paying for another application fee, the reqts of PNPs are generally the same as EE so you can reuse your docs.

hi arthur,

im not too ssure on the individual scoring, since it only stated that you are eligible to apply, so we went to the CRS scoring, found out if we can score all 7 to ielts we have chance to land 400 pts , since im her partner (husband) i took ielts which i have scores all above 7 except reading of 6. and i graduated a 2 yr dilpoma school.

m not too sure how to get additional 50pts on the spouse. ur advise will greatly help

 

[angelistamaria]

hi arthur,

im not too ssure on the individual scoring, since it only stated that you are eligible to apply, so we went to the CRS scoring, found out if we can score all 7 to ielts we have chance to land 400 pts , since im her partner (husband) i took ielts which i have scores all above 7 except reading of 6. and i graduated a 2 yr dilpoma school.

m not too sure how to get additional 50pts on the spouse. ur advise will greatly help

Hi! Hope you don't mind me interjecting here. My husband and I did a bit of CRS juggling ourselves. We used me as primary since he was older by a year (decreased the score a bit) and I had the higher IELTS (increased our chances).

Look again at Part B (spouse or common-law partner factors) of the CRS criteria: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp . If your spouse also has an ECA and IELTS, you can also get awarded points. If you declare the spouse/partner's education and language scores during creation of your express entry profile, you will be asked to provide these when you apply for PR (after ITA).

As an option, as @arthurmr mentiond, either of you can apply for PNP if your CRS (whether you or your wife is the primary) falls below the trend of the draws: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/rounds.asp (lowest draw without a specified program this year was during May 2017 at 413 points)

Good luck!

 

[rl03]

Hi! Hope you don't mind me interjecting here. My husband and I did a bit of CRS juggling ourselves. We used me as primary since he was older by a year (decreased the score a bit) and I had the higher IELTS (increased our chances).

Look again at Part B (spouse or common-law partner factors) of the CRS criteria: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp . If your spouse also has an ECA and IELTS, you can also get awarded points. If you declare the spouse/partner's education and language scores during creation of your express entry profile, you will be asked to provide these when you apply for PR (after ITA).

As an option, as @arthurmr mentiond, either of you can apply for PNP if your CRS (whether you or your wife is the primary) falls below the trend of the draws: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/rounds.asp (lowest draw without a specified program this year was during May 2017 at 413 points)

Good luck!

hi anglelista

thanks so much for the reply, im glad you interject.

i understand what you are saying, im done with ielts, now im tryin to assess my education through ICES, but ICES process is a bit confusing, i emailed them but they are not replying,. i emailed them asking for the payment and it has been a week.

my wife credentials is using WES which is quite straightforward. according to the hearsay ICES ismore forgiving than wes, so imgoing toICES so assess my 2yr diploma in computer science

 

[arthurmr]

hi arthur,

im not too ssure on the individual scoring, since it only stated that you are eligible to apply, so we went to the CRS scoring, found out if we can score all 7 to ielts we have chance to land 400 pts , since im her partner (husband) i took ielts which i have scores all above 7 except reading of 6. and i graduated a 2 yr dilpoma school.

m not too sure how to get additional 50pts on the spouse. ur advise will greatly help

I think you were using the official CIC assessment or Come to Canada tool? Try this (unofficial) one from canadavisa, it has the option to check the combined scores with your spouse -- https://www.canadavisa.com/comprehensive-ranking-score-calculator.html

As mentioned by @angelistamaria, if your wife will be the primary applicant, then she would also need her own set of docs like IELTS and ECA results.

 

[arthurmr]

hi anglelista

thanks so much for the reply, im glad you interject.

i understand what you are saying, im done with ielts, now im tryin to assess my education through ICES, but ICES process is a bit confusing, i emailed them but they are not replying,. i emailed them asking for the payment and it has been a week.

my wife credentials is using WES which is quite straightforward. according to the hearsay ICES ismore forgiving than wes, so imgoing toICES so assess my 2yr diploma in computer science

Since they're following standards, assessment for WES and ICES should be consistent. Unnecessary expense in my opinion to have it reassessed, might be good to spend that instead for (re)taking IELTS since you have room to increase scores and your CRS.

 

[arthurmr]

Out of curiosity: since receiving a provincial nomination will award you extra points (600, right?) which will very well likely guarantee an ITA, couldn't he be the primary applicant if his occupation is more in-demand?

Yupyup should be fine if they'll be set on applying under PNP. Although, it would be good to check if it's already possible for them to have good CRS even before PNP.

FYI for rl03 as well, PNP-backed EE would require you to stay in that province for a certain period (e.g. 2 yrs) before you can move. Also, most PNPs now have their own processing fees.

 

[rl03]

Since they're following standards, assessment for WES and ICES should be consistent. Unnecessary expense in my opinion to have it reassessed, might be good to spend that instead for (re)taking IELTS since you have room to increase scores and your CRS.

hi arthur,
thanks, but i havent assess my credentials yet, thats why im waiting for ices.
i tried your link, i got a score of 410 , hopefully this is a good gauge

 

[rl03]

Yupyup should be fine if they'll be set on applying under PNP. Although, it would be good to check if it's already possible for them to have good CRS even before PNP.

FYI for rl03 as well, PNP-backed EE would require you to stay in that province for a certain period (e.g. 2 yrs) before you can move. Also, most PNPs now have their own processing fees.

hi arthur,

forgive me for asking dumb questions. for the PNP means provincial nominee right? in order to be selected one must be in the EE profile?

and how do i get the selection on the PNP? by applying their jobs or on demand? sorry about this question

 

[arthurmr]

hi arthur,

forgive me for asking dumb questions. for the PNP means provincial nominee right? in order to be selected one must be in the EE profile?

and how do i get the selection on the PNP? by applying their jobs or on demand? sorry about this question

No problem, yes PNP is provincial nomination program. It's not always required that you're already in the CIC's EE before you apply in a PNP, some require it, some don't. Each province has its own qualifications and minor differences in process.

You can only apply for skill-based PNPs if you or your wife (as the primary applicant) has the required amount of experience in one of their specific set of job NOCs (aka in demand jobs), so you can start by checking each province's list first. Rule out Quebec, unless you or your wife knows French lol.

Friendly reminder, before you proceed, be extra sure of the NOC you'll choose for you or your wife, because it'll be crucial in your applications. Focus on the job task description instead of the titles. I also work in IT, and there are lots of available options for it if you've seen the NOC listing. To add, some technical NOCs under PNP require additional certification from a Canadian organization (e.g. programmers).

 

[rl03]

No problem, yes PNP is provincial nomination program. It's not always required that you're already in the CIC's EE before you apply in a PNP, some require it, some don't. Each province has its own qualifications and minor differences in process.

You can only apply for skill-based PNPs if you or your wife (as the primary applicant) has the required amount of experience in one of their specific set of job NOCs (aka in demand jobs), so you can start by checking each province's list first. Rule out Quebec, unless you or your wife knows French lol.

Friendly reminder, before you proceed, be extra sure of the NOC you'll choose for you or your wife, because it'll be crucial in your applications. Focus on the job task description instead of the titles. I also work in IT, and there are lots of available options for it if you've seen the NOC listing. To add, some technical NOCs under PNP require additional certification from a Canadian organization (e.g. programmers).

Hi Arthur

I still have so much questions to ask LOL. u have been a helpful soul please do bear with me , i was struck by angelista comment that if the main applicant my wife is her NOC is not that high in demand , we will also have an issue applying ?

brief background, my wife is a computer engineering graduate but not practicing, we are both working in singapore, she is working in an MNC company as a recruiting specialist( quite far from her degree lol) I , also working here in SG as an IT engineer.

will it have a problem if she is the main applicant? since her NOC and credentials doesnt match?

or should i proceed myself as a main applicant but the score is not that great for a 2 yr grad and 36 yrs old.

any advice? we really want to migrate in canada with our 2 kids

thanks in advance arthur

 

[angelistamaria]

Hi Arthur

I still have so much questions to ask LOL. u have been a helpful soul please do bear with me , i was struck by angelista comment that if the main applicant my wife is her NOC is not that high in demand , we will also have an issue applying ?

Hi! Just a clarification: my comment was for strategy. Whichever option is available to you (whether you or your wife as primary), try choosing the one which will either (1) give you enough CRS points for a draw under the federal skilled worker category (I think this is viable to you both since you are IT/Corporate work), or (2) which will give you the best chance of obtaining a provincial nomination.

 

[arthurmr]

Hi Arthur

I still have so much questions to ask LOL. u have been a helpful soul please do bear with me , i was struck by angelista comment that if the main applicant my wife is her NOC is not that high in demand , we will also have an issue applying ?

brief background, my wife is a computer engineering graduate but not practicing, we are both working in singapore, she is working in an MNC company as a recruiting specialist( quite far from her degree lol) I , also working here in SG as an IT engineer.

will it have a problem if she is the main applicant? since her NOC and credentials doesnt match?

or should i proceed myself as a main applicant but the score is not that great for a 2 yr grad and 36 yrs old.

any advice? we really want to migrate in canada with our 2 kids

thanks in advance arthur

I'm actually an AB IS grad (more commonly known as AB Mass Comm), but my work experience is primarily in IT and that's also the NOC applied for. So degree and work experience don't necessarily have to be aligned , EXCEPT for certain specialized and regulated NOCs (the NOC details will mention this).

There shouldn't be a problem which one is the primary applicant. As mentioned by angelistamaria, best option would be have the one with the higher CRS be the primary applicant. There will be a section to declare the spouse and children, then everyone in the family will be processed at the same time.