Help with the medical test...IBD

[ahmedhere]

So just an update for anyone who may come through this thread in the future seeking similar information:

I haven't submitted my application yet, but the medical form was sent from the immigration doctor, and IRCC sent me an email asking for a detailed report from my specialist about the Remicade dosage, frequency of injections and other related details...

 

[DEEPCUR]

So just an update for anyone who may come through this thread in the future seeking similar information:

I haven't submitted my application yet, but the medical form was sent from the immigration doctor, and IRCC sent me an email asking for a detailed report from my specialist about the Remicade dosage, frequency of injections and other related details...

Good to see your update. Wishing you to get this sorted out soon and move on to next phases.

Also from your post, it is quite clear that what you inform about your conditions during medicals alone would be sufficient to have CIC notified, and the answer to statutory on serious medical condition makes no difference!

 

[rg74]

Thanks for the update !! Wishing you best of luck for the whole process!

Me with rheumatoid arthritis & Humira still torn between Yes or No in Statutory questions. Meeting my specialist this week ...hopefully she can answer my queries before going in for my medicals.

Keep us updated !!

So just an update for anyone who may come through this thread in the future seeking similar information:

I haven't submitted my application yet, but the medical form was sent from the immigration doctor, and IRCC sent me an email asking for a detailed report from my specialist about the Remicade dosage, frequency of injections and other related details...

 

[kryt0n]

Thanks for the update !! Wishing you best of luck for the whole process!

Me with rheumatoid arthritis & Humira still torn between Yes or No in Statutory questions. Meeting my specialist this week ...hopefully she can answer my queries before going in for my medicals.

Keep us updated !!

I've still got it down as a yes in stat questions:

As I am not aware of your definintion of a 'serious' disorder I am declaring my history of Epilepsy. This condition was diagnosed during childhood. My seizures (Tonic Clonic) are infrequent (I have had 2 seizures in the last 5 years). I take 100mg Lamotrigine a day to control my condition. I hold an unencumbered valid driving license with no work place restrictions.

 

[ahmedhere]

Thank you all for the wishes...

Regarding the statutory question...

The medical decision is taken by a medical officer who has nothing to do with the officer that gives a decision to your application, that's why as I mentioned above, they started judging my medical exam even before I submit my application...

As for that question, I would still answer "yes" and explain, cause it will not affect your application as clearly mentioned in the form itself, in fact, even if the officer rejects you cause you said yes (which is impossible in my opinion) you can very easily challenge his decision by simply saying look I got approval from the medical officer! All in all, there is another guy who takes the medical decision as I said above and he has full access to all your health history. I would answer that question "yes" because you never know, they may have access to your info and consider this as misguiding...and would need a lot of effort and time to prove you didn't have bad intention etc..so just say yes...

 

[DEEPCUR]

Thank you all for the wishes...

Regarding the statutory question...

The medical decision is taken by a medical officer who has nothing to do with the officer that gives a decision to your application, that's why as I mentioned above, they started judging my medical exam even before I submit my application...

As for that question, I would still answer "yes" and explain, cause it will not affect your application as clearly mentioned in the form itself, in fact, even if the officer rejects you cause you said yes (which is impossible in my opinion) you can very easily challenge his decision by simply saying look I got approval from the medical officer! All in all, there is another guy who takes the medical decision as I said above and he has full access to all your health history. I would answer that question "yes" because you never know, they may have access to your info and consider this as misguiding...and would need a lot of effort and time to prove you didn't have bad intention etc..so just say yes...

How did the cic doctor reach you out? You got a message through ee profile or call from clinic? Will the dmp know that you have ita? Just curious as only upfront meds are done for ee and there's isn't any link between us and cic through an official channel.

 

[ahmedhere]

How did the cic doctor reach you out? You got a message through ee profile or call from clinic? Will the dmp know that you have ita? Just curious as only upfront meds are done for ee and there's isn't any link between us and cic through an official channel.

The medical exam has nothing to do with your EE application. You basically go and do the exam once you get the ITA...once your exam is done, the doctor's office will give you a form called "eMedical form"...you upload it to your profile just as a proof of finishing the exm before submitting the application. Now, the doctor's office will directly send the exam results to CIC, regardless your submitted your application or not. And the exam will be processed and judged at CIC again once it is received and regardless you submitted your application or not. Well, you may ask, how do they link the medical decision to your EE application then? Simply by both the passport number and the eMedical form you upload.

I received an email on my email fom IRCC (previously known as CIC)...telling me this is regarding your immigration application, we require more info, contact the office you did the exam in to know about it. I contacted them, and they said yeah they want a detailed report from your sepcialist about your drug and case.

I haven't received any messages on my CIC profile, just the email.

 

[liquidmetal]

Has anyone taking Humira have successfully managed to apply for their PR? Did you have to use an immigration lawyer? Im hoping some of you guys who've posted ahead be kind enough to give an update.

Im about to start on Humira next month. I dont have my EE application in yet but was hoping to get an upfront medical test this week. Im in BC so im not aware of any private insurance program that can cover this. But BC governments MSP does and theyre the primary insurance provider.

 

[tosinosho1992]

Has anyone taking Humira have successfully managed to apply for their PR? Did you have to use an immigration lawyer? Im hoping some of you guys who've posted ahead be kind enough to give an update.

Im about to start on Humira next month. I dont have my EE application in yet but was hoping to get an upfront medical test this week. Im in BC so im not aware of any private insurance program that can cover this. But BC governments MSP does and theyre the primary insurance provider.

Hey,

Humira is an expensive drug with a cost that would likely go above the CIC cost threshold. A few guys on Humira on this forum received procedural fairness letters and were able to successfully overcome it; you can do a quick search on "crohn's" and "IBD" on the forum. How is your overall health? What medication are you currently on? If you have just been recently diagnosed with IBD, some doctors usually go for the big guns (biologics--Humira, Remicade etc) without trying the inexpensive drugs with generic formulations such as Pentasa and Imuran. If you're stable on the inexpensive drugs, I would suggest you get a detailed report from your doctor about your condition and prognosis before starting Humira. Importantly, health trumps PR. If you have to go on Humira, please do not wait a second. Good luck.

 

[liquidmetal]

Hey,

Thanks for the reply. I feel like ive read through pretty much every thread on the site which has the word crohns in it. I did notice that some people who got approved had stopped taking their medicines or had the option to opt out of the govt insurance and go for private coverage. As far as im aware, i dont think thats an option in BC.

My overall health condition is not bad at the moment. Im not on any medication right now. Ive only had this for a few months now. But like you said, my doctor wanted to go aggressive and go for Humira directly.

You mentioned getting a detailed report and prognosis from my Doctor before taking Humira. Where would i have the opportunity to give this particular report? Are you suggesting to get that now for when they send me a procedural fairness letter later?

Would it be better if i gave an upfront medical exam before starting on Humira and use that when i apply for Express Entry(Canadian Experience Class) ?

Thanks again for the reply. I really appreciate it.

Cheers!

 

[prakash419]

Thank you for your reply, should I indicate that in the letter? that this drug is not covered by the govt?

My recommendation (not legal advice) would be to state exactly what you have stated here in a LOE and you should be more than good. all the best.

 

[DEEPCUR]

Why do they want to include medicines under excessive demand clause when they are anyways not paying for it. I believe they just pay for major treatments like surgery / pregnancy.

 

[prakash419]

When you get invited under express entry, you will be required to undergo upfront medicals. The panel physician will ask if you have a preexisting condition and whether you are on any medication. You will be asked to provide a specialist report which should contain a 5 year prognosis including pathology and other diagnostic reports (colonoscopy/endoscopy if available) and treatment recommendation. The panel physician may refer you to a specialist or CIC could ask for further tests. I suspect you are in Canada, to circumvent any unnecessary delay, get a report from your GI doctor that contain the information the panel physician wants (you can find a specialists referral form online to have an idea of what your doctor should include in the report) and take it with you to the panel physician. Since the your Canadian specialist is certified by the royal college, his/her credibility would not be in doubt.

You need to sit down and have a deep meaningful conversation with your specialist, underscoring the importance of his report on the outcome of your PR application. Since you have been newly diagnosed, your specialist can only give a generalized prognosis based on the result of your colonoscopy and pathology reports which could be really conservative. IBD could take different trajectories from mild to severe. Overall, your specialist has an ethical obligation to give a honest report, but they always hope for the best case. Good luck.

I strongly disagree. Lying or trying to manipulate facts is the worst thing one can do in life. My advice to the poster is to be truthful and explain his situation and plan of action in a LOE.

 

[tosinosho1992]

I strongly disagree. Lying or trying to manipulate facts is the worst thing one can do in life. My advice to the poster is to be truthful and explain his situation and plan of action in a LOE.

You have to choose your words carefully. No one is telling anyone to lie. I guess you you're capable of reading. I advised that the gentleman gets a "honest" report from his specialist. If you want to be quick to comment, at least take some time to read.

 

[tosinosho1992]

Why do they want to include medicines under excessive demand clause when they are anyways not paying for it. I believe they just pay for major treatments like surgery / pregnancy.

Unfortunately, most procedural fairness letters always quote the price of the drugs.