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Help with the medical test...IBD

ahmedhere

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I feel sorry for you. I pray that you overcome this soon.

Can you get in touch with this member @computergeek

This is the link to his profile. http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/members/computergeek.206408/

He overcame a medical issue successfully after a battle with IRCC and has very strong knowledge in this area.

You can also get in touch with this member - @legalfalcon . He is very helpful too.

Good luck.
Thank you so much, I contacted him, hopefully I can find a way
 

ahmedhere

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I'm so sorry to hear that! I'm sorry I can't offer any advice, as I'm hoping I don't get a fairness letter myself due to Crohn's Disease. But I wish you the best of luck!

How many days after AOR did it take for them to send you the fairness letter? How much time are they giving you to reply?

It's been 24 days since my AOR and I'm on the edge of my seat...
Thanks, I wish your application goes through without these hassles...
I got the fairness letter around 3 months and half after submitting the application and medical furtherance letter,
And they gave me 2 months to respond...
 

Zoide

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Thanks, I wish your application goes through without these hassles...
I got the fairness letter around 3 months and half after submitting the application and medical furtherance letter,
And they gave me 2 months to respond...
What is a medical furtherance letter? I took my medicals 2 months ago and submitted my PR application 24 days ago, but never got a request for additional tests or details about my disease/medication.
 

ahmedhere

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What is a medical furtherance letter? I took my medicals 2 months ago and submitted my PR application 24 days ago, but never got a request for additional tests or details about my disease/medication.
If you have Crohn's and mentioned that you are on medications in the test, you will definitely receive a request for furtherance letter, would have been better if you provided it from the beginning to save time,
It is basically a letter from your specialist to tell details about you case, like for example the dose of the drug, frequency of injections and prognosis etc
 

DEEPCUR

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You might be already knowing this.. put your heart and soul and arrange that money somehow, through a loan or something. We will not able to generate the kind of response that specialized attorneys generate.

Since you mentioned that you already have a support program to cover your medicine costs, and given that you are already in Canada, this case might be easy to handle for attorneys. Sending fairness due to the cost threshold is CIC's job, but that shouldn't mean the end, the onus is on us to provide any explanations that we have. The attorney might be able to accommodate your support program through legal points and get it sorted out.
 

Zoide

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You might be already knowing this.. put your heart and soul and arrange that money somehow, through a loan or something. We will not able to generate the kind of response that specialized attorneys generate.

Since you mentioned that you already have a support program to cover your medicine costs, and given that you are already in Canada, this case might be easy to handle for attorneys. Sending fairness due to the cost threshold is CIC's job, but that shouldn't mean the end, the onus is on us to provide any explanations that we have. The attorney might be able to accommodate your support program through legal points and get it sorted out.
It's strange though that I haven't received that letter yet. I visited the panel doctor and took the tests almost 3 months ago on March 24th...
 

DEEPCUR

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It's strange though that I haven't received that letter yet. I visited the panel doctor and took the tests almost 3 months ago on March 24th...
Did you mention the tablets that you have been taking to the physician? If they have all the information they want to assess your case through medicals, they might not request furtherance.
 

Zoide

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Did you mention the tablets that you have been taking to the physician? If they have all the information they want to assess your case through medicals, they might not request furtherance.
Yes, I told him that I inject 40 mg of Humira subcutaneously every other week.
 

DEEPCUR

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OP, just got this from old post..

Some people are sending me personal message which I miss since I am not active in this forum . Hence would like to update the post .Sorry for late reply hope this helps .

Summary

We got PPR around 4 months after furtherance letter and we Became PR.

Details

This are Some FAQ which I generally get.

Dec 2013 update

1) Has your wife had a further medical? If so, what did it entail?
My wife recieved medical furtherance and we went to DMP with the sealed letter .

They had asked following and below our answers.
Q1. What is her present condition ?
Ans: Stable without flare.

Q2. Who is paying for her medication ?
Ans: Employer insurance . We provided remicade approval letter.

Q3. Dosage and Frequency of medication .
Ans: We provided reciepts .

Q4.Most recent and some previous cossultation reports from speacialists.
Ans: We provided for last 9 months reports [3 reports+ 1 colonyscopy report]


2) Did the doctor hint that the further medical was due to her drug being expensive or do you think people with UC are categorises and thus I am also likely to be required for a further medical exam?
DMP din't say anything but we feel it was due to expensive medication .
By the way when we went to DMP my wife had already stopped expensive medication (Remicade) due to severe reactions and was on Heliminthic Therapy. This is out of pocket expesne and we ordered medicine from UK . She responded well to this alternative therapy.

After I got my PR I answered in March 2014
3) Did anyone advise you that your case could be rejected if your wife stayed on the Remicade, even if you're covered by employer insurance?
No. I felt we were good even good even if she continued Remicade

Here are more details related to number 3 question.
I actually did lot of home work even before getting medical furtherance.
So I went to this lawyer "Kelly Anderson of bellissimo law group" in mid 2013 and she looked up my preparation and said it looks good on paper so even if I receive a futherance and/or medical fairness letter chances are that we will be fine. At that time there was no plan to discontinue Remicade as it was helping my wife and had no side effects.

So status when I went to her ...
1. My wife was taking Remicade and we had plans that she would continue taking it long term.
2. My Wife had 100% employer insurance
3. I had 80 % insurance through my employer .
4. There was a private trust through which I had a letter which said it will cover anything above 200 CAD in case I had to pay out of pocket . [ This was only relevant for 4 months when my wife was changing jobs and 20 % amount would have costed us 600 + CAD]

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/need-suggestions-to-reply-fairness-letter-thanks.155811/page-3#post-5109674
 
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Zoide

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Interesting. In my case, the Costa Rican government healthcare covers 100% of my Humira. My employer and I pay a certain percentage of my salary to pay for the insurance.

If I were to go to Canada, I would keep paying for the insurance independently in order to keep the coverage. My plan would be to travel to Costa Rica every 6 months or so to pick up a big enough supply of syringes to last me until the next time.

Have other people successfully answered a fairness letter with this type of plan?

Thanks
 

edwinkhoi

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Hi guys,

I am sorry to hear some of you have received the fairness letter. In my dream I see myself getting one as well so trust me I understand the feelings...

I tried to contact ComputerGeek but he has not responded. I've been asking about my condition around and I contacted the C. Law Firm because they said they offered a free consultation but then they referred me to B. Law Firm tor medical inadmissibility consultation.

I have an eye condition. It is a rare hereditary eye condition called Bornholm Eye disease. It affects my eyesight. I have always been able to see up to 6/30 and 6/19 in my left eye and right eye since birth/childhood. There is no treatment for my condition and no medications as well. It does not affect my ability to live my day to day life and I have never required any social services or anything like that. I studied and worked like any other person with normal eyesight. I am worried about whether my condition would be deemed as creating exxessive demand on health and social services and therefore would be grounds for medical inadmisibility?

I am waiting for my eye specialist's report so I can bring it to my medical and discuss it with the panel physician. In the medical report, I asked my doctor to state the prognosis and any costs involved for treatment if applicable (but there is no treatment nor medication for my condition).

Do you think I should book a consultation with the B. Law now? Or wait till I get bad news from IRCC and then contact them to handle the fairness letter?

I am a grad student in Australia so I do not have much money to spare unfortunately...

Thanks guys!!
 

DEEPCUR

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Interesting. In my case, the Costa Rican government healthcare covers 100% of my Humira. My employer and I pay a certain percentage of my salary to pay for the insurance.

If I were to go to Canada, I would keep paying for the insurance independently in order to keep the coverage. My plan would be to travel to Costa Rica every 6 months or so to pick up a big enough supply of syringes to last me until the next time.

Have other people successfully answered a fairness letter with this type of plan?

Thanks
They agree insurance only if it's employer sponsored as private insurance is not enforceable by the govt. Same for home country treatment.

Many people have overcome fairness letters through attorney help.

I'd suggest you Google the forum for similar cases with possible keywords and leads if you feel that your case might present excessive burden.
 

DEEPCUR

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Apr 12, 2016
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Hi guys,

I am sorry to hear some of you have received the fairness letter. In my dream I see myself getting one as well so trust me I understand the feelings...

I tried to contact ComputerGeek but he has not responded. I've been asking about my condition around and I contacted the C. Law Firm because they said they offered a free consultation but then they referred me to B. Law Firm tor medical inadmissibility consultation.

I have an eye condition. It is a rare hereditary eye condition called Bornholm Eye disease. It affects my eyesight. I have always been able to see up to 6/30 and 6/19 in my left eye and right eye since birth/childhood. There is no treatment for my condition and no medications as well. It does not affect my ability to live my day to day life and I have never required any social services or anything like that. I studied and worked like any other person with normal eyesight. I am worried about whether my condition would be deemed as creating exxessive demand on health and social services and therefore would be grounds for medical inadmisibility?

I am waiting for my eye specialist's report so I can bring it to my medical and discuss it with the panel physician. In the medical report, I asked my doctor to state the prognosis and any costs involved for treatment if applicable (but there is no treatment nor medication for my condition).

Do you think I should book a consultation with the B. Law now? Or wait till I get bad news from IRCC and then contact them to handle the fairness letter?

I am a grad student in Australia so I do not have much money to spare unfortunately...

Thanks guys!!
How different is it from having positive or negative power for which one wears lenses ? If there's no treatment, they could possibly refer you for vision tests and if the sight is acceptable, they'd clear you. You may wait for computergeek s response and take next steps..
 

Zoide

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They agree insurance only if it's employer sponsored as private insurance is not enforceable by the govt. Same for home country treatment.

Many people have overcome fairness letters through attorney help.

I'd suggest you Google the forum for similar cases with possible keywords and leads if you feel that your case might present excessive burden.
Wait... They only accept company insurance??? Wouldn't home country or personal insurance be better since it's more stable? As in, if you get laid off you lose your company insurance, but if you're paying on your own or you're using your home country's national healthcare, the risk is way lower...
 

DEEPCUR

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Wait... They only accept company insurance??? Wouldn't home country or personal insurance be better since it's more stable? As in, if you get laid off you lose your company insurance, but if you're paying on your own or you're using your home country's national healthcare, the risk is way lower...
True, but there's some court judgement on this I believe. The court ruled that ircc should consider employer insurance as a part of mitigation.

As I mentioned earlier, private plans are not enforceable. So they won't consider that. Anyways I'm not subject matter expert on this topic. I'm just telling you what I read in this forum.