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IvanP

Champion Member
Jul 24, 2012
1,057
31
CA-Montréal
Visa Office......
Montreal-citizenship
App. Filed.......
25-09-2017
Well, here goes nothing - according to USPS/Canada Post tracking, CPP-O now has the additional documentation they wanted. I wonder how long it will take for them to make a decision...
 

IvanP

Champion Member
Jul 24, 2012
1,057
31
CA-Montréal
Visa Office......
Montreal-citizenship
App. Filed.......
25-09-2017
thetreble said:
Shylock, for some reason it won't let me change my profile or direct message you with my details. Would you mind adding my timeline to the CPP -OTT spreadsheet? I did an outland spousal application for my US husband.

App RecieveD: June 4th, 2012
Sponsorship Approval: October 10th, 2012
PPR Received: February 21, 2013
COPR: Still Waiting...
I added you!

(as an aside, you can't change your profile or send messages until you've posted 10 times)
 

lunas

Champion Member
Apr 10, 2012
1,349
25
USA
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09/07/2012
AOR Received.
11/07/2012
Med's Done....
8/15/2012
Passport Req..
03/14/2013
LANDED..........
04/19/2013
IvanP said:
Well, here goes nothing - according to USPS/Canada Post tracking, CPP-O now has the additional documentation they wanted. I wonder how long it will take for them to make a decision...
hoping for the best!
 

gsize

Hero Member
May 2, 2009
958
48
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
2009....denied Feb 2010.....appeal allowed (August 2012)..waiting for processing
Doc's Request.
04/04/2013
File Transfer...
30/01/2013
Med's Done....
04/2013 (second time)
Passport Req..
21/02, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
18/03/2014
LANDED..........
05/04/2014
lunas said:
Yuck! Nah, we're not waiting anymore. I'm moving in with my hubby in two months PPR or not!
go for it ! good luck !
 

lunas

Champion Member
Apr 10, 2012
1,349
25
USA
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09/07/2012
AOR Received.
11/07/2012
Med's Done....
8/15/2012
Passport Req..
03/14/2013
LANDED..........
04/19/2013
gsize said:
go for it ! good luck !
Thank you Sir/Madam (CIC style lol)
 

computergeek

VIP Member
Jan 31, 2012
5,143
277
124
Vancouver BC
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O/LA
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-03-2012
AOR Received.
21-06-2012
File Transfer...
21-6-2012
Med's Done....
11-02-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
26-09-2012
VISA ISSUED...
10-10-2012
LANDED..........
13-10-2012
gsize said:
i can beat that ! Try waiting 4 years. My file now shows "received in Ottawa" Now thats NOT kewl ! @
At four years you definitely have the option to go to court and ask for Mandamus - and unless there is some very good reason for the delay, CIC would likely lose. Of course, most Mandamus requests never make it to hearing because just the filing of a Mandamus application leads to a large bonfire being lit under CIC so they find and finish the application.
 

IvanP

Champion Member
Jul 24, 2012
1,057
31
CA-Montréal
Visa Office......
Montreal-citizenship
App. Filed.......
25-09-2017
computergeek said:
At four years you definitely have the option to go to court and ask for Mandamus - and unless there is some very good reason for the delay, CIC would likely lose. Of course, most Mandamus requests never make it to hearing because just the filing of a Mandamus application leads to a large bonfire being lit under CIC so they find and finish the application.
gsize was rejected, appealed, and won. Sponsor approved in August 2012, and is now in the "normal" queue - though you'd think they could hurry the [censored] up for someone who has waited so long...

Hooray for the "anomalies" column in the spreadsheet!
 

OhCanadiana

VIP Member
Feb 27, 2010
3,086
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Job Offer........
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IvanP said:
though you'd think they could hurry the [censored] up for someone who has waited so long...
They have a process to accelerate processing through CPP-O for appeal cases (http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLIsh/resources/manuals/bulletins/2011/ob305.asp). "CPP-O creates the GCMS file, initiates mandatory checks (security checks only)" and only forwards the file to the original VO for files with complex admissibility risks.

Reading through the Bulletin again just now, gsize, the confusion regarding where your file was may be due to the procedure establishing that "CPP-O will not communicate with the client or the sponsor during this phase to avoid confusion for the client."
 

computergeek

VIP Member
Jan 31, 2012
5,143
277
124
Vancouver BC
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O/LA
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-03-2012
AOR Received.
21-06-2012
File Transfer...
21-6-2012
Med's Done....
11-02-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
26-09-2012
VISA ISSUED...
10-10-2012
LANDED..........
13-10-2012
OhCanadiana said:
Reading through the Bulletin again just now, gsize, the confusion regarding where your file was may be due to the procedure establishing that "CPP-O will not communicate with the client or the sponsor during this phase to avoid confusion for the client."
LOL. "In order to not confuse the client, we won't tell them anything about what's going on."

Of course, that just takes someone who has already been dragged through the mud behind the CIC bus and makes them live with fear, uncertainty and doubt.

The one GOOD thing is that CIC doesn't seem to hold grudges in cases they lose on appeal and usually they process them reasonably quickly.

But yes, they get to reset the clock on a successful appeal case (though I've never read a court decision stating supporting this policy of CIC's as being reasonable under procedural fairness.)
 

lunas

Champion Member
Apr 10, 2012
1,349
25
USA
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09/07/2012
AOR Received.
11/07/2012
Med's Done....
8/15/2012
Passport Req..
03/14/2013
LANDED..........
04/19/2013
IvanP said:
Fast! Congratulations - you're now green!
And I am green with envy!

Congrats Anna!
 

IvanP

Champion Member
Jul 24, 2012
1,057
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CA-Montréal
Visa Office......
Montreal-citizenship
App. Filed.......
25-09-2017
lunas said:
hoping for the best!
Thanks! We shouldn't have any problems, but it still makes me incredibly nervous - if only because it would be a huge, time-consuming pain to appeal. The "intending to move to Canada" thing is such a weird thing to be asked to prove, especially when you have a couple that has lived together in various countries since 1994.
 

lunas

Champion Member
Apr 10, 2012
1,349
25
USA
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09/07/2012
AOR Received.
11/07/2012
Med's Done....
8/15/2012
Passport Req..
03/14/2013
LANDED..........
04/19/2013
IvanP said:
Thanks! We shouldn't have any problems, but it still makes me incredibly nervous - if only because it would be a huge, time-consuming pain to appeal. The "intending to move to Canada" thing is such a weird thing to be asked to prove, especially when you have a couple that has lived together in various countries since 1994.
It might just be an annoying formality. It seems you have more than enough proof to show. But I understand what you mean.
 

IslandAnnie

Hero Member
Nov 9, 2012
350
22
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-11-2012
AOR Received.
29-11-2012
File Transfer...
29-11-2012
Med's Done....
14-11-2012
Passport Req..
08-05-2013 never received, pp submitted 09-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
22-08-2013
IvanP said:
I have also seen a bunch of people reporting this, but what I'm wondering is: How many instances are there of someone not get COPR after submitting follow-up documentation? Our documentation should be pretty solid, but I'm wondering what the line between "satisfactory" and "not satisfactory" proof of intent would be.
As a sponsor currently living my spouse outside of Canada, I have been wondering exactly the same thing. I have not been asked for my "proof of intent" yet, but I've been planning and compiling documentation....all without having any idea of what will be "enough". So far I haven't read of anyone on these forums that have been asked for proof that hasn't been accepted, but these requests seem all quite new, so it may be too early to tell.