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Changes on Oct 11, 2017 - Executive summary/FAQ C-6

spyfy

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Thanks Spyfy for this magnificaaaaaaant thread , does staying for 183 days in my home country needs a police certificate?

is a police certificate that is 4 years old is still good to be used or somone need to get a new one?
Yes, no matter if that other country is your home country or not, you need the certificate.

No, you can't use a four year old certificate cause it doesn't cover the days you have been in that country since. You need a recent certificate.
 

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Every day your wife is in Canada for at least one minute counts as a day of physical presence.

So if she, say, leaves Canada on Monday at 8am and comes back to Canada on Wednesday at 7pm, then she has only been absent for one day (Tuesday). Note that actual border crossing times count, not when she "regularly" returns. The actual timestamp in the border register is what is relevant.
Just to add an interesting facts / observation that time counts as per EST despite you are crossing border from Vancouver which is in Pacific Time Zone. Immigration systems are set based on EST.
 

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All i can say is FBI is screwing me up on my certificates.....taking 3+ months now.
The first time I did the FBI thing (for PR back in 2013) the FBI said that the fingerprints which I'd had taken (by a serving U.S. police officer at a U.S. police station) weren't of good enough quality, so I had to re-send my 'prints; then when I finally sent my FBI thing to CIC (signed-for on delivery) they lost it and wrote to me giving me 30 days to supply a new one or else they'd pull-the-plug on my PR application altogether. Only a desperate phone call that I immediately placed to CIC managed to get a bureaucrat off its butt to go look for the missing FBI report, which s/he luckily duly found somewhere at CIC, but they didn't apologise for having signed for it on delivery and then misplacing it. Lessons that I learned from that experience back in 2013/14 are: (1.) advocate for yourself and make damned sure that the U.S. police officer who's taking your fingerprints for your FBI paperwork has read the fine-print in the FBI's fingerprint card requirements; & (2.) to mail the police certificates along with one's application form and everything else needed all together in one single package to make damned sure that everything's all there for the bureaucrat so s/he doesn't have any work to do other than tick boxes for you while s/he's sipping a double-double, hehe.
 

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Yes, I would say so. Ideally, by the time IRCC opens your file, the taxes for 2016 will already be processed. In particular, on the form you only sign that you filed, not that you got an assessment. So you are not misrepresenting.
Pheww... thanks a lot. This puts my mind at ease.

Unless someone else says something otherwise.
 

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In the past 4 years I stay in the US for more than 183 days but not all at once. I need the FBI certificate, correct?
Yes, I believe that you'll need to have the FBI background check thing done, just like me. I waited until C-6 passed, then I travelled into the U.S. for a day-trip specifically to get my fingerprints taken at a U.S. police station. The FBI website says that their current processing time is 12-14 weeks.
 
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aska-phd

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Spyfy: Please look to my case again, someone here replied that I need a police certificate.

I landed in May 6, 2015 and haven't left Canada since then more than 183 days. I have been in Canada since Sep 2010. I left Canada once for more than 183 days, from July 2013 -to- Jan. 10, 2014. Am I eligible to apply on Oct. 11, 2017 and do I need a police certificate for this period of time? Please reply.
 

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Hi everyone , I 'm back here after a few years , very happy to hear this news . I was just going through the CIC website . In the language requirement section for IELTS/post secondary education it says "Clear and legible photocopy" can I just send a photo copy of my last transcript and copy of my degree ? or do I have to get them attested?

thanks in advance
 

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Spyfy: Please look to my case again, someone here replied that I need a police certificate.

I landed in May 6, 2015 and haven't left Canada since then more than 183 days. I have been in Canada since Sep 2010. I left Canada once for more than 183 days, from July 2013 -to- Jan. 10, 2014. Am I eligible to apply on Oct. 11, 2017 and do I need a police certificate for this period of time? Please reply.
Your information is incomplete. First of all, your landing date is irrelevant. There is no separation between days before and after PR. It is also irrelevant if you were away for 183 days in a row or if it's spread out over several trips.

Let's say you will apply on October 15, 2017. Then for each country, count the days you were in that country between October 15, 2013 and October 15, 2017. If for any country the number is higher than 183, you need a certificate. It doesn't matter if that was before or after PR.

From your message it is impossible to check that information since you don't provde where you have been in 2013-2014 and where you have been since May 6, 2015. You are just saying if you were away from Canada or not. That is irrelevant. It matters if you were in ONE country for more than 183 days.
 

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Hi everyone , I 'm back here after a few years , very happy to hear this news . I was just going through the CIC website . In the language requirement section for IELTS/post secondary education it says "Clear and legible photocopy" can I just send a photo copy of my last transcript and copy of my degree ? or do I have to get them attested?

thanks in advance
just photocopies
 
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Siar

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You can only count for last 5 years. so for everyone it would be 11Oct, 2012 onwards.

From Oct 11 2012 - June 5th 2014 (603days) she was out of canada for 153 days - max 365days counted
From June 6 2014 until December 31 2014 she was physically present in Canada for 105 days - 105 days counted (and would required PCC from that country)
In 2015 she was physically present in Canada for 250 days - 250 days counted
In 2016 she was present for 325 days - 325 days counted
and for 2017(until October 11 2017) she will physically present for 270 days. - 270days counted.
So in total (1315 days) she is eligible to apply under new rule.


Good luck.!!
Maybe I'm wrong but between 11 october 2012 and 5 june 2014, as she was not PR yet, a day of presence counts only for a half, so 603 - 153 = 450 ----> 450/2 = a maximum of 225 days of physical presence should be included? Is it right?
 
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aska-phd

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Your information is incomplete. First of all, your landing date is irrelevant. There is no separation between days before and after PR. It is also irrelevant if you were away for 183 days in a row or if it's spread out over several trips.

Let's say you will apply on October 15, 2017. Then for each country, count the days you were in that country between October 15, 2013 and October 15, 2017. If for any country the number is higher than 183, you need a certificate. It doesn't matter if that was before or after PR.

From your message it is impossible to check that information since you don't provde where you have been in 2013-2014 and where you have been since May 6, 2015. You are just saying if you were away from Canada or not. That is irrelevant. It matters if you were in ONE country for more than 183 days.
Thanks Spyfy: Sorry for bothering you again.

My complete information about my stay in Canada is as follows
entered Canada Sep. 2010,
left from Feb 2012 - July 2012, and
left from July 1, 2013 - Jan 10, 2014
Since Jan 10, 2014 I haven't left Canada except a few days
landed May 6, 2015.
Since landing I left only a few days to US on different period of times.

Hope this information is relevant now, am I eligible to apply? and what about police certificate ?
 

Paris971

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Great all my documents are ready. I will go to make photo and my application will be sent next week !

And I saved the 600$... So expensive !!!
 

NewUser2018

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Thanks Spyfy: Sorry for bothering you again.

My complete information about my stay in Canada is as follows
entered Canada Sep. 2010,
left from Feb 2012 - July 2012, and
left from July 1, 2013 - Jan 10, 2014
Since Jan 10, 2014 I haven't left Canada except a few days
landed May 6, 2015.
Since landing I left only a few days to US on different period of times.

Hope this information is relevant now, am I eligible to apply? and what about police certificate ?
you should wait 11 Oct, that day you can calculate @ official CIC website if u will need further assistant you must call CIC so officer can answer with assurance, a lot of forum answers here are speculation since we are not lawmakers.
 
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Mr. Preppy

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Dear spyfy,
Thank you very much for your research&assistance.
I have a case:
A person became PR on 1oct2014, since he came to Canada never left it.
Before of 1oct2014 he was only leaving in his home country.
During PR-application he sent Police cert from his home country.

Question:
Does he need to send police cert again from his home country when applying for citizenship?