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Ray of Hope - 73rd Draw

abhishek_89

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26-05-2017
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26-05-2017
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22-05-2017
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24-07-2017
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04-08-2017
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Hello friends,
A total of 69437 ITA,s would have been issued after this 72nd draw which was held on 20th September, 2017. The total target of express entry for 2017 is 71700. As per this calculation the remaining quota is 2263 ITA’s only. It will surely be filled up in the next draw. Will the next draw be the last draw of 2017 ?.

My OINP application under FSW category is in DIP stage. If I get nominated after the next draw which will be the last draw of 2017 and annual quota of 71700 would have been exhausted by then , will my nomination be valid for 2018 or will they conduct another draw in this year for nominated candidates only.

I shall highly appreciate if somebody may kindly clarify me on this.
71700 is the PR target under CEC, FSW and FST stream..not the ITA target..there would be draws continuously every few weeks..
 

trumprefugee

Champion Member
Jun 6, 2017
1,616
3,186
Ottawa, ON
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2172
App. Filed.......
06-01-2018
Nomination.....
19-12-2017
AOR Received.
07-01-2018
IELTS Request
24-06-2017
Med's Done....
05-01-2018
Passport Req..
09-03-2018
VISA ISSUED...
02-04-2018
LANDED..........
28-05-2018
Just finished reading all your comments, so many positive ones, I really like this forum, because we have ROH! ;):cool:
So, to those who have CRS 425 or more do not worry, there will be back-to-back draws, and CRS will decrease gradually. I feel like next draw could happen 27th; in addition, there will be surely another back-to-back draw in November, so we have huge chance, just relax and get smth to read for the weekend :)
Stay positive and hopeful as so many others do here!
PS: thank you @shaun75 for clarification regarding our newbie @Wandering Mind :D:D:D She is truly young lady, that's why she will be always our newbie ;):)

#KeepYourHopeAlive
September 27 is probably too early for the next draw (of course you never know with the CIC) because 2018 quotas have yet to come out, but I think some back-to-back draws in November could be likely because 2018 quota should have come out by then. November 2016 had 3 draws, although one was for PNP programs only, but the 2 regular draws had steadily increasing number ITAs. Hopefully OINP will reopen by October and then there will be more nominations issued for an additional late November PNP (or regular) draw.


Express Entry Draws: 2016
Draw # Minimum CRS Score Required Date of Draw # of ITAs Issued
50 475 December 22, 2016 2,878
49 497 December 16, 2016 1,936
48 786 (*Provincial Nominee Programs only) November 30, 2016 559
47 470 November 16, 2016 2,427
46 472 November 2, 2016 2,080
45 475 October 19, 2016 1,804
44 484 October 12, 2016 1,518
43 483 September 21, 2016 1,288
42 491 September 7, 2016 1,000
41 538 August 24, 2016 750
40 490 August 10, 2016 754
 

andieangel

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Feb 13, 2017
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Croatia
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1311
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Yes
September 27 is probably too early for the next draw (of course you never know with the CIC) because 2018 quotas have yet to come out, but I think some back-to-back draws in November could be likely because 2018 quota should have come out by then. November 2016 had 3 draws, although one was for PNP programs only, but the 2 regular draws had steadily increasing number ITAs. Hopefully OINP will reopen by October and then there will be more nominations issued for an additional late November PNP (or regular) draw.


Express Entry Draws: 2016
Draw # Minimum CRS Score Required Date of Draw # of ITAs Issued
50 475 December 22, 2016 2,878
49 497 December 16, 2016 1,936
48 786 (*Provincial Nominee Programs only) November 30, 2016 559
47 470 November 16, 2016 2,427
46 472 November 2, 2016 2,080
45 475 October 19, 2016 1,804
44 484 October 12, 2016 1,518
43 483 September 21, 2016 1,288
42 491 September 7, 2016 1,000
41 538 August 24, 2016 750
40 490 August 10, 2016 754
Thanks @trumprefugee for fetching this data. Looking at CRS trend it’s not so good news but looking at increase of ITAs from September till December, that’s the true hope right there! :) We will make it, hang in there!
 

walk_2_canada

Star Member
Mar 13, 2017
98
66
Saskatoon, SK
Category........
CEC
NOC Code......
2173
You keep us updated.
Hopefully we will be hearing some good news from CIC and the PNP programs in the upcoming months. Apparently last week there was a meeting of the Forum of Ministers responsible for Immigration, and they all agreed on increasing immigration levels:

https://www.cicnews.com/2017/09/federal-provincial-ministers-reach-consensus-on-increasing-canadian-immigration-levels-099561.html

Federal, Provincial Ministers Reach Consensus on Increasing Canadian Immigration Levels

September 20, 2017 By Hugo O'Doherty

Political leaders responsible for immigration issues in Canada have agreed that increasing immigration levels and establishing multi-year targets would help meet labour market needs across the country.

The consensus was reached at a meeting of the Forum of Ministers responsible for Immigration (FMRI), which met in Toronto last week. This FMRI includes members from the federal, provincial, and territorial governments.

Currently, Canada’s annual immigration levels plan for 2017 sets a target of 300,000 new permanent residents for the year. Earlier this summer, federal Minister of Immigration Ahmed Hussen confirmed that this figure would form the new ‘baseline’ for immigration targets under the current federal government. The government had previously alluded to moving to a multi-year plan — instead of the current annual model — in order to provide certainty and help inform long-term planning.

Under the current plan, around 57 percent of new permanent residents settle as economic migrants. This share includes newcomers who apply through one of the economic programs managed under the Express Entry system, as well as skilled workers destined for the province of Quebec and applicants to one of the Provincial Nominee Programs (PNPs). The plan also allows Canadian citizens and permanent residents to sponsor family members, including spouses and common-law partners, while also maintaining Canada’s international obligations and humanitarian tradition with respect to refugee resettlement.

The government’s annual immigration plan is usually presented to Parliament in the preceding fall. It remains to be seen exactly what the next plan may include; the fact that the Ministers have reached a consensus — and publicly affirmed that they have done so — may be a prelude to a multi-year plan.

“Canada has welcomed generations of newcomers who have contributed to Canada’s well-being, economic prosperity, competitiveness, and success as a nation. We are committed to ensuring that newcomers, including refugees, integrate and contribute fully to the Canadian economy and society. We continue to help newcomers find jobs and make lasting connections within their communities,” said Minister Hussen.

Another important agreement to come out of the meeting is the development of a federal-provincial-territorial plan to clarify how settlement priorities are set, and how information is shared among all orders of government. In a statement following the meeting, Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) stated that enhanced collaboration across governments is needed to support the delivery of high-quality settlement services and successful outcomes for all newcomers.

Ian Wishart, Manitoba Minister of Education and Training and FMRI provincial-territorial co-chair, spoke of a shared commitment to “maintaining an open dialogue and working together to achieve our shared immigration objectives in building a stronger, more prosperous and united Canada.”

Finally, the Ministers discussed the promotion of Francophone immigration to communities outside Quebec with the goal of increasing Francophone immigration. Currently, some federal initiatives support that goal. Last June, IRCC changed the Express Entry Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) so that Francophone candidates could be awarded additional points. The federal government also recently launched a temporary work stream within the International Mobility Program called Mobilité Francophone, making it easier for employers outside Quebec to hire French-speaking skilled workers.

In addition, Canada’s most populated province, Ontario, offers a French-Speaking Skilled Worker Stream, aligned with the Express Entry system, for candidates with ability in French and English.

The FMRI also discussed a pan-Canadian approach to dealing with the current arrival of asylum seekers into Canada through irregular means (i.e. not through official border crossings). This approach would include enhanced intergovernmental collaboration to support orderly migration and scenarios planning, while protecting Canada’s border and the safety and security of Canadians.
 

trumprefugee

Champion Member
Jun 6, 2017
1,616
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Ottawa, ON
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2172
App. Filed.......
06-01-2018
Nomination.....
19-12-2017
AOR Received.
07-01-2018
IELTS Request
24-06-2017
Med's Done....
05-01-2018
Passport Req..
09-03-2018
VISA ISSUED...
02-04-2018
LANDED..........
28-05-2018

Sandeep198511

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Apr 21, 2017
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Just finished reading all your comments, so many positive ones, I really like this forum, because we have ROH! ;):cool:
So, to those who have CRS 425 or more do not worry, there will be back-to-back draws, and CRS will decrease gradually. I feel like next draw could happen 27th; in addition, there will be surely another back-to-back draw in November, so we have huge chance, just relax and get smth to read for the weekend :)
Stay positive and hopeful as so many others do here!
PS: thank you @shaun75 for clarification regarding our newbie @Wandering Mind :D:D:D She is truly young lady, that's why she will be always our newbie ;):)

#KeepYourHopeAlive
hey buddy you just said 425+ what about 413 ???:D
 

Fishal2017

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Jun 3, 2017
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How much do you think the score will go up due to IELTS from 433 which was the draw today? I mean historically by how many points has it made a difference? Any idea?
The truth, have no idea. But pondering over it, seems the improve in IELTS score increases the number of candidates at higher end.
Someone who rewrites IELTS again to increase the score try to aim towards 440's or above keeping the recent trend in mind.
Now this will increase the number of applicants in the range of 440.
The aim of CIC , it seems, is to keep the score constant even if means less ITA's.
This is just a feeling I have.
Sometimes you have to convince yourself by such explanations.
Sorry for late reply, busy day today.
 

trumprefugee

Champion Member
Jun 6, 2017
1,616
3,186
Ottawa, ON
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2172
App. Filed.......
06-01-2018
Nomination.....
19-12-2017
AOR Received.
07-01-2018
IELTS Request
24-06-2017
Med's Done....
05-01-2018
Passport Req..
09-03-2018
VISA ISSUED...
02-04-2018
LANDED..........
28-05-2018
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trumprefugee

Champion Member
Jun 6, 2017
1,616
3,186
Ottawa, ON
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2172
App. Filed.......
06-01-2018
Nomination.....
19-12-2017
AOR Received.
07-01-2018
IELTS Request
24-06-2017
Med's Done....
05-01-2018
Passport Req..
09-03-2018
VISA ISSUED...
02-04-2018
LANDED..........
28-05-2018
These forums mean ROH or Canadavisa forum?
I think both. The economic immigration programs are not favorable for the 40+, as you can guess if you look down the CRS grid for age
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp
Of course I don't like that, because time flies and I'm really just 20 years old, it's just that over 20 years have passed since I first turned 20 ... and with life expectancy ever increasing, 30 is the new 20 and 40 is the new 30 these days ... However, given that the population is aging in many countries including Canada, I can understand why Canada wants younger immigrants:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-research-job-market-before-coming-canada-pr-ronak-gandhi/

a.) First let's understand what is this big hoopla around age. Why is the government granting more points (FSWP, EE, pnp,etc) to people who are less than 30 years of age ? In my basic research I found that it has more to do with demographics than labor market. As you can see in the link (Demographics) around 35-40% of the Canadian population is over 45 years of age. So that means, in 10-15 years there will be huge retiring work force and Canada will need skilled and quality people to take over their places. That's why such heavy focus on promoting entry to younger people by giving them more points.
 

tjsecondtry

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May 11, 2017
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The truth, have no idea. But pondering over it, seems the improve in IELTS score increases the number of candidates at higher end.
Someone who rewrites IELTS again to increase the score try to aim towards 440's or above keeping the recent trend in mind.
Now this will increase the number of applicants in the range of 440.
The aim of CIC , it seems, is to keep the score constant even if means less ITA's.
This is just a feeling I have.
Sometimes you have to convince yourself by such explanations.
Sorry for late reply, busy day today.
My thought is that they are coming to the conclusion of the target, and don't need to accept as many as they project to meet the target. The CRS is whatever it happens to be for the number they want.

Last year they finished switching from paper to EE. The big increase in the fall was to catch up with lower numbers that paper processing supported. I don't think there is any reason for a big increase this year.

From Bill Hyatt's posting in another thread, I think they won't start "using" next year's quota until the new year.

I hope I am wrong, but around 2700 could be the new normal for a while.
 

wickerman

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Jun 20, 2017
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The truth, have no idea. But pondering over it, seems the improve in IELTS score increases the number of candidates at higher end.
Someone who rewrites IELTS again to increase the score try to aim towards 440's or above keeping the recent trend in mind.
Now this will increase the number of applicants in the range of 440.
The aim of CIC , it seems, is to keep the score constant even if means less ITA's.
This is just a feeling I have.
Sometimes you have to convince yourself by such explanations.
Sorry for late reply, busy day today.
Hmm okay. I was looking at declining my ITA (I had 454 points back in June), due to a delay in the FBI PCC thing. But since my birthday has passed, I was wondering if a score of 448 would be enough provided there is a score increase due to IELTS. If it is in the 440s then I guess I am good.
 

trumprefugee

Champion Member
Jun 6, 2017
1,616
3,186
Ottawa, ON
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2172
App. Filed.......
06-01-2018
Nomination.....
19-12-2017
AOR Received.
07-01-2018
IELTS Request
24-06-2017
Med's Done....
05-01-2018
Passport Req..
09-03-2018
VISA ISSUED...
02-04-2018
LANDED..........
28-05-2018
Hmm okay. I was looking at declining my ITA (I had 454 points back in June), due to a delay in the FBI PCC thing. But since my birthday has passed, I was wondering if a score of 448 would be enough provided there is a score increase due to IELTS. If it is in the 440s then I guess I am good.
It will likely be in the 430s, so you're really good :)
 

Zakaria223

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May 4, 2017
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Hey guys,
I have one question. Actually i submitted my permanent residence profile but i forgot to add one of my visa stamp image in my my passport profile and i Cannot add it now? Is there any other option by which i can submit it?
will be waiting for your replies guys.
TIA
 

trumprefugee

Champion Member
Jun 6, 2017
1,616
3,186
Ottawa, ON
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2172
App. Filed.......
06-01-2018
Nomination.....
19-12-2017
AOR Received.
07-01-2018
IELTS Request
24-06-2017
Med's Done....
05-01-2018
Passport Req..
09-03-2018
VISA ISSUED...
02-04-2018
LANDED..........
28-05-2018
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