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Using foreign PhD as work experience

deadbird

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Jan 9, 2016
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Chiming in at a high level. I used my PhD work experience for PR under NOC 4012. Happy Canadian PR for the last 4 years, waiting for citizenship approval now :cool:
 
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egam189

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May 30, 2019
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Hi

Thanks for your reply. So I can use PhD with a scholarship to show employment experience. Is that still valid If I took 4 courses? I do have a letter detailing my Roles and reponsibilities as per noc 402
Yes. Do a little search on the forum about how the letter form should be and go from there.
 

ghaz.niss

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Dec 8, 2020
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Hello all,
Very useful thread, thank you all. My question is if anyone used NOC other than 4012 for their PhD work experience? In the main duties of NOC 4012 it says assist professor to do the research, analysis of the results and preparation of atricles. In Sweden as a PhD candidate we need to perform all those tasks mainly by ourselves. We have our own research projects, do experiments entirely by ourselves and do most of the analysis and also the writing by ourselves, we are more like scientists rather than assistants (more like NOC 2121 than 4012). Is there anyone here who chose a different NOC for their PhD work and procceeded with the application/getting PR?
 

CLapika25512

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Apr 19, 2017
36
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Alberta
NOC Code......
4012
Hi @deadbird @egam189

I just filled out my Express Entry profile, I put my work experience as 20hr/week from September 2017 to Jan 2020 as my RA work experience, and they said I am not eligible. I was wondering how did you guys fill your forms out and if you have any tip at all? THank you for your time!
 

egam189

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May 30, 2019
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Hi @deadbird @egam189

I just filled out my Express Entry profile, I put my work experience as 20hr/week from September 2017 to Jan 2020 as my RA work experience, and they said I am not eligible. I was wondering how did you guys fill your forms out and if you have any tip at all? THank you for your time!
Where did you study, in Canada or overseas?
 

CLapika25512

Full Member
Apr 19, 2017
36
4
Alberta
NOC Code......
4012
Hi Egam,
I did my schooling all in Canada.
My stat:
-Work experience (all in Canada):
RA from September 2017- Jan 2020. 20hr/week. NOC 4012 (This should be over 2000 hours)
Lab tech May 2020- Oct 2020
Lab scientist Nov 2020- present

-Language test: CELPIP
Reading: 12
Listening: 12
Writing: 10
Speaking: 10
-Sufficient fund.
 
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Linalin

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Jul 11, 2020
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Hi Egam,
I did my schooling all in Canada.
My stat:
-Work experience (all in Canada):
RA from September 2017- Jan 2020. 20hr/week. NOC 4012 (This should be over 2000 hours)
Lab tech May 2020- Oct 2020
Lab scientist Nov 2020- present

-Language test: CELPIP
Reading: 12
Listening: 12
Writing: 10
Speaking: 10
-Sufficient fund.
You can't work under 4012 whole studying in Canada. Some countries allow it, others don't.
 

CLapika25512

Full Member
Apr 19, 2017
36
4
Alberta
NOC Code......
4012
Hi Linalin,

There are so many cases here in this forum that used that experience and was successful.
https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=855&top=29
You can't work under 4012 whole studying in Canada. Some countries allow it, others don't.
Also my friend did the same thing last year and atleast was able to be put in a pool. I was immediately rejected so I am not sure if there is changes to the program. Thanks for replying!
 

egam189

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May 30, 2019
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Hi Egam,
I did my schooling all in Canada.
My stat:
-Work experience (all in Canada):
RA from September 2017- Jan 2020. 20hr/week. NOC 4012 (This should be over 2000 hours)
Lab tech May 2020- Oct 2020
Lab scientist Nov 2020- present

-Language test: CELPIP
Reading: 12
Listening: 12
Writing: 10
Speaking: 10
-Sufficient fund.
You can't claim RA experience that is part of your Canadian education as a work experience. Check IRCC website for this.
 

CLapika25512

Full Member
Apr 19, 2017
36
4
Alberta
NOC Code......
4012
You can't claim RA experience that is part of your Canadian education as a work experience. Check IRCC website for this.
Hi egam and @Linalin ,
I figured out what was wrong. I put the NOC for my current occupation as the primary NOC (NOC 2121 instead of NOC 4012). I changed it to 4012 and was able to be put in a pool. Thanks for replying!
 

egam189

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May 30, 2019
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Hi egam and @Linalin ,
I figured out what was wrong. I put the NOC for my current occupation as the primary NOC (NOC 2121 instead of NOC 4012). I changed it to 4012 and was able to be put in a pool. Thanks for replying!
I don't think you are listening. You cannot claim 4012 as a work experience under Canadian Experience Class.

"Self-employment and work experience gained while you were a full-time student (even if you were on a co-op work term) doesn’t count towards the minimum requirements for this program."
https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=394&top=29

So unless you claim it under Federal Skilled Worker Program, which I think you cannot since you study in Canada, you cannot use this work experience getting points under CEC.

Unless this work experience was after your studies, then it is fine.

Please read IRCC website.
 
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