understanding GCMS notes

[awesomegod]

Can someone please explain this and help me understand where do I stand now?


APPLICATION: 1
Field Name: Eligibility
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started
New Value: Recommend Passed Updated Date: 2017/04/12 Updated By: XXXX
Office: CPC-Ottawa

APPLICATION: 2
Field Name: Secondary Office Action: Removed
Old Value: CPC-Ottawa
New Value:
Updated Date: 2017/04/12 Updated By: XXXX
Office: CPC Vegreville

APPLICATION: 3
Field Name: Secondary Office Action: Added
Old Value:
New Value: CPC Vegreville Updated Date: 2017/04/12 Updated By: XXXX
Office: CPC Vegreville

APPLICATION: 4
Field Name: Primary Office Action: Updated
Old Value: CPC Vegreville New Value: CPC-Ottawa Updated Date: 2017/04/12 Updated By: XXXX
Office: CPC Vegreville



And Final notes are this:

Updated Date: 2017/04/12 12:04:39
Updated By: XXXX
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: CA Review: R10 Complete BACKGROUND DECLARATIONS/ ADDRESSES: Complete POLICE CERTIFICATE FOR PA Police certificates on application; ***INDIA*** RCMP Check Initiated; NRT


Please help me where am i standing now?
Appreciate your help.

 

[Sanchez88]

Hi Legalfalcon could you please give me your opinion regarding my notes. It's confusing. I uploaded 3 links .
https://ibb.co/hY4uD5
https://ibb.co/iq2QLk
https://ibb.co/gRw7Y5

 

[Sugar2016]

Hi Legalfalcon could you please give me your opinion regarding my notes. It's confusing. I uploaded 3 links .
https://ibb.co/hY4uD5
https://ibb.co/iq2QLk
https://ibb.co/gRw7Y5

I noticed "Settlement funds not met - CAD$12004 per bank statement vs. requirement CAD$12164. All else looks ok. Might be worth calling CIC to clarify.

 

[BIZZIB]

What is the file number that need to be mentioned while applying for GCMS notes ? Is that same as express entry profile number ?

 

[RabinJi]

What is the file number that need to be mentioned while applying for GCMS notes ? Is that same as express entry profile number ?

Yeah same one it starts from E00.

 

[legalfalcon]

This whole new thing has become confusing, and give me a day or two to get used to the new format. For GCMS notes and all related questions, please post at -

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/all-about-gcms-how-to-order-read-general-questions-answered.482200/

 

[legalfalcon]

Can someone please explain this and help me understand where do I stand now?


APPLICATION: 1
Field Name: Eligibility
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started
New Value: Recommend Passed Updated Date: 2017/04/12 Updated By: XXXX
Office: CPC-Ottawa




APPLICATION: 2
Field Name: Secondary Office Action: Removed
Old Value: CPC-Ottawa
New Value:
Updated Date: 2017/04/12 Updated By: XXXX
Office: CPC Vegreville

APPLICATION: 3
Field Name: Secondary Office Action: Added
Old Value:
New Value: CPC Vegreville Updated Date: 2017/04/12 Updated By: XXXX
Office: CPC Vegreville

APPLICATION: 4
Field Name: Primary Office Action: Updated
Old Value: CPC Vegreville New Value: CPC-Ottawa Updated Date: 2017/04/12 Updated By: XXXX
Office: CPC Vegreville



And Final notes are this:

Updated Date: 2017/04/12 12:04:39
Updated By: XXXX
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: CA Review: R10 Complete BACKGROUND DECLARATIONS/ ADDRESSES: Complete POLICE CERTIFICATE FOR PA Police certificates on application; ***INDIA*** RCMP Check Initiated; NRT


Please help me where am i standing now?
Appreciate your help.

As per this info, your application has passed the R10, most likely Criminality.

To see if your BGC has started and where you stand, look at the second page of the GCMS notes. There you will find a section which has the following:


ASSESMENTS:
Eligibility:
Security:
HIRV:
Criminality:
Organized Crime:
Misrepresentation

This will indicate the actual status of your file.

Then you can go and see the last 4-5 pages, which has the actual notes of the agents and confirm what is happening. The things you have provided are merely when and where the application has moved.

 

[awesomegod]

Thank you for your prompt reply.
Here is the second page of my notes.

ASSESSMENTS
Eligibility: Recommend Passed Security: Not Started
HIRV:
Criminality: In Progress
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed
Misrepresentation:
Other Reqs:
Final:

And last three pages notes are below: Please post your thoughts. Thank you in advance

NOTES: 43
Created Date: 2017/04/11 09:46:04
Created By: XXXX
Updated Date: 2017/04/11 09:46:04
Updated By:XXXXX
Restricted: No
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: CPC Vegreville
Text:
REVIEW TYPE: Program Assistant APPLICATION: XXX REGULATION: CEC I have reviewed this application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. MIN Score: 475 - ITA Score: 484 PRINCIPAL APPLICANT APPLICATION PROMOTED: Existing UCI REVIEW NOTES FOR REPRESENTATIVE: NO Representation MEDICAL ATTACHED TO UCI: Yes RCMP Check Initiated CLIENT FEES: Paid PROOF OF EDUCATION PROVIDED: Yes LANGUAGES: Principal Applicant: - English: IEL TS - Received: Met Threshold and Verified DOCUMENTS SET FOR REVIEW: Client info PPT contains WP Statutory Details located in separate GCMS note. POLICE CERTIFICATE FOR PA R10 OK All police

certificates on application; following PC's NRT India. PA RCMP Screening NRT RECOMMENDATION: Pass Criminality EDUCATION DOCUMENTS Canadian educational credential on file; credential reviewed; Canadian institution recognized; Level of Education: Diploma 2 years ECA report verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site. ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Bachelor's degree (four years). Foreign Credential provided. AGE Applicant's age reviewed and no change from ITA to e-APR.
NOTES: 44
Created Date: 2017/04/12 11:43:46
Created By: XXX
Updated Date: 2017/04/12 11:43:46
Updated By: XXX
Restricted: No
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text:
Case Analyst:***RECOMMEND PASS*** Lock-in Date: 2017-03-04_XXXXXX PA: XXX NAME XXX
- EE CEC Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.


RECOMMENDATION: Recommend Pass Ml2 A11.2: Appears Met R87.1: CEC MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS -
Appears Met Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete

Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 484 CRS points minimum score for round: 475 CRS score at application (APR): 484 I have reviewed the following for CRS points: PA gained points as SINGLE at ITA and APR PA gained points for 1 year(s) Canadian Work Experience with "XXXX, edoc# 142191699" PA gained points for 3+ year(s) Foreign Work Experience with "XXXXXXX, edoc# 142187388" PA gained points for Canadian Education Transcript Provided eDoc# 142195279 Diploma Provided eDoc# 142193192 NOTE: ONTARIO COLLEGE DIPLOMA FROM XXXXXX ON
2014/06/18 __________________________________ _ INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA: WP Valid Until: 2017-08-07 (LMIA Exempt: C43) NO ADVERSE
INFORMATION
___________________________________ FAMILY COMPOSITION: SINGLE; never married No indication of previous marriages/cl partners No declared children
MEDICALS: All valid for 6 months or more PASSPORTS: All valid for 6 months or more
WORK EXPERIENCE: Lock-in Date: 2017-03-04 2010-01 to 2012-12 - XX Engineer -Technical (NOC: 2133) - at XXXX- eDoc# 142187388 -Web-based search confirms employer information - Letter dated 2017-01-27 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of XXXX- Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Foreign Work: 3 years and O months. XXXX - XXXX(NOC: 4021) - at XXX - eDoc# 142191699 -Web-based search confirms employer information - Letter dated 2017-01-30 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of XXXX - Letter confirms part/time (XX/week) employment - Documented Income Provided: Both a T4 and a NOA from 2014 (eDoc# 137895645), Both a T4 and a NOA from 2016 (eDoc# 137895645) CEC Work: 2 years and 0.8 months. CRS Canadian Work: 2 years and 0.8 months. CEC Work: 1 year CRS Foreign Work: 3+ year(s) CRS Canadian Work: 1 year(s)

Updated Date: 2017/04/12 12:04:39
Updated By:XXXX
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: CA Review: R10 Complete BACKGROUND DECLARATIONS/ ADDRESSES: Complete POLICE CERTIFICATE FOR PA Police certificates on application; ***INDIA*** RCMP Check Initiated; NRT

 

[legalfalcon]

Thank you for your prompt reply.
Here is the second page of my notes.

ASSESSMENTS
Eligibility: Recommend Passed - Your eligibility A11.2 is passed - See the corresponding note highlighted in "green"
Security: Not Started The security has not started
HIRV:
Criminality: In Progress This is based on the PCC, so most likely this should have been done by now.
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed
Misrepresentation:
Other Reqs:
Final:

And last three pages notes are below: Please post your thoughts. Thank you in advance

NOTES: 43
Created Date: 2017/04/11 09:46:04
Created By: XXXX
Updated Date: 2017/04/11 09:46:04
Updated By:XXXXX
Restricted: No
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: CPC Vegreville
Text:
REVIEW TYPE: Program Assistant APPLICATION: XXX REGULATION: CEC I have reviewed this application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. MIN Score: 475 - ITA Score: 484 PRINCIPAL APPLICANT APPLICATION PROMOTED: Existing UCI REVIEW NOTES FOR REPRESENTATIVE: NO Representation MEDICAL ATTACHED TO UCI: Yes RCMP Check Initiated CLIENT FEES: Paid PROOF OF EDUCATION PROVIDED: Yes LANGUAGES: Principal Applicant: - English: IEL TS - Received: Met Threshold and Verified DOCUMENTS SET FOR REVIEW: Client info PPT contains WP Statutory Details located in separate GCMS note. POLICE CERTIFICATE FOR PA R10 OK All police

certificates on application; following PC's NRT India. PA RCMP Screening NRT RECOMMENDATION: Pass Criminality EDUCATION DOCUMENTS Canadian educational credential on file; credential reviewed; Canadian institution recognized; Level of Education: Diploma 2 years ECA report verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site. ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Bachelor's degree (four years). Foreign Credential provided. AGE Applicant's age reviewed and no change from ITA to e-APR.
NOTES: 44
Created Date: 2017/04/12 11:43:46
Created By: XXX
Updated Date: 2017/04/12 11:43:46
Updated By: XXX
Restricted: No
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text:
Case Analyst:***RECOMMEND PASS*** Lock-in Date: 2017-03-04_XXXXXX PA: XXX NAME XXX
- EE CEC Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.


RECOMMENDATION: Recommend Pass Ml2 A11.2: Appears Met R87.1: CEC MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS -
Appears Met Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete

Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 484 CRS points minimum score for round: 475 CRS score at application (APR): 484 I have reviewed the following for CRS points: PA gained points as SINGLE at ITA and APR PA gained points for 1 year(s) Canadian Work Experience with "XXXX, edoc# 142191699" PA gained points for 3+ year(s) Foreign Work Experience with "XXXXXXX, edoc# 142187388" PA gained points for Canadian Education Transcript Provided eDoc# 142195279 Diploma Provided eDoc# 142193192 NOTE: ONTARIO COLLEGE DIPLOMA FROM XXXXXX ON
2014/06/18 __________________________________ _ INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA: WP Valid Until: 2017-08-07 (LMIA Exempt: C43) NO ADVERSE
INFORMATION
___________________________________ FAMILY COMPOSITION: SINGLE; never married No indication of previous marriages/cl partners No declared children
MEDICALS: All valid for 6 months or more PASSPORTS: All valid for 6 months or more
WORK EXPERIENCE: Lock-in Date: 2017-03-04 2010-01 to 2012-12 - XX Engineer -Technical (NOC: 2133) - at XXXX- eDoc# 142187388 -Web-based search confirms employer information - Letter dated 2017-01-27 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of XXXX- Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Foreign Work: 3 years and O months. XXXX - XXXX(NOC: 4021) - at XXX - eDoc# 142191699 -Web-based search confirms employer information - Letter dated 2017-01-30 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of XXXX - Letter confirms part/time (XX/week) employment - Documented Income Provided: Both a T4 and a NOA from 2014 (eDoc# 137895645), Both a T4 and a NOA from 2016 (eDoc# 137895645) CEC Work: 2 years and 0.8 months. CRS Canadian Work: 2 years and 0.8 months. CEC Work: 1 year CRS Foreign Work: 3+ year(s) CRS Canadian Work: 1 year(s)

Updated Date: 2017/04/12 12:04:39
Updated By:XXXX
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: CA Review: R10 Complete BACKGROUND DECLARATIONS/ ADDRESSES: Complete POLICE CERTIFICATE FOR PA Police certificates on application; ***INDIA*** RCMP Check Initiated; NRT

You application is ready to finalize and is awaiting the BGC. As soon as the BGC is complete, you will have your PPR.

 

[Gladossy]

Actually I noticed ready to finalize is written when an applicant pays Right of Permanent Residence fee upfront.

If an applicant doesn't pay Right of Permanent Residence fee upfront, instead of "ready to finalize" they have "outstanding documents not requested RPRF"

So having ready to finalize written in your notes doesn't mean that your application has been approved. Your application will be transferred to the local visa office where it will be processed and be re-evaluated by a visa officer using local knowledge. it is during this stage that the officer either clears you if satisfied or ask for adr if he or she finds something fishy.

But it is good news that the case analyst is recommending you passed. The final step is the officer at your LVO.

Good luck!

Thank you for your prompt reply.
Here is the second page of my notes.

ASSESSMENTS
Eligibility: Recommend Passed Security: Not Started
HIRV:
Criminality: In Progress
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed
Misrepresentation:
Other Reqs:
Final:

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[BIZZIB]

What type of record would you like to request? What should be the selection for this question ? Permanent Residence or Express Entry profile ?

 

[Gladossy]

Permanent

What type of record would you like to request? What should be the selection for this question ? Permanent Residence or Express Entry profile ?

Permanent Residence.

 

[legalfalcon]

Actually I noticed ready to finalize is written when an applicant pays Right of Permanent Residence fee upfront.

If an applicant doesn't pay Right of Permanent Residence fee upfront, instead of "ready to finalize" they have "outstanding documents not requested RPRF"

So having ready to finalize written in your notes doesn't mean that your application has been approved. Your application will be transferred to the local visa office where it will be processed and be re-evaluated by a visa officer. it is during this stage that the officer either clears you if satisfied or ask for adr if he or she finds something fishy.

But it is good news that the case analyst is recommending you passed. The final step is the officer at your LVO.

Good luck!

Ready to finalize from the agent means that the application as far as eligibility is concerned is approved, and pending BGC. Depending on the visa office and the BGC, the application should be considered final. Once an application has passed eligibility it is not re-evaluated by a visa officer.

In an eligibility, the program analyst reviews the application and makes a recommendation which is then approved by the Agent. Rarely will an agent go against the recommendation of a program analyst. Once the agent has approved eligibility, no further re-evaluatin takes place at the leave of LVO. However, in case there are issues and further investigation needs to be done, then the LVO will be instructed accordingly or sent before the eligibility is recommended passed, which depends on the LVO. Most LVOs do not have enough manpower and agents trained to process PR applications, which are mostly taken care of at CPC, or CPO.

 

[Gladossy]

Ready to finalize from the agent means that the application as far as eligibility is concerned is approved, and pending BGC. Depending on the visa office and the BGC, the application should be considered final. Once an application has passed eligibility it is not re-evaluated by a visa officer.


In an eligibility, the program analyst reviews the application and makes a recommendation which is then approved by the Agent. Rarely will an agent go against the recommendation of a program analyst. Once the agent has approved eligibility, no further re-evaluatin takes place at the leave of LVO.

However, in case there are issues and further investigation needs to be done, then the LVO will be instructed accordingly or sent before the eligibility is recommended passed, which depends on the LVO. Most LVOs do not have enough manpower and agents trained to process PR applications, which are mostly taken care of at CPC, or CPO.

This is not correct. Ready to finalize from case analyst doesn't mean eligibility is passed. Eligibility is passed by the Officer at the Local visa office. The case analyst only recommends pass or says "met"
Not until an officer makes a comment after the case analyst, that's when he/she says, based on the comment of the case analyst and having review this application I am satisfied that blah blah blah mets the requirement. ( not exact words, but you get the gist)

True the officer rarely disagrees but he still can, as he's got the veto power to approve or deny applications once it's at the Local visa office.
The case analyst only views application at face value since they are not aware of local laws or ways. This is one of the reasons why applications are transferred to Local visa office where they can re-evaluate applications based on local knowledge, this is where employment frauds are mostly discovered.

The case analyst only signals review required when it has to do with an applicant not meeting the requirements of the program which they have applied under.

 

[legalfalcon]

This is not correct. Ready to finalize from case analyst doesn't mean eligibility is passed. Eligibility is passed by the Officer at the Local visa office. The case analyst only recommends pass or says "met"
Not until an officer makes a comment after the case analyst, that's when he/she says, based on the comment of the case analyst and having review this application I am satisfied that blah blah blah mets the requirement. ( not exact words, but you get the gist)

True the officer rarely disagrees but he still can, as he's got the veto power to approve or deny applications once it's at the Local visa office.
The case analyst only views application at face value since they are not aware of local laws or ways. This is one of the reasons why applications are transferred to Local visa office where they can re-evaluate applications based on local knowledge, this is where employment frauds are mostly discovered.

The case analyst only signals review required when it has to do with an applicant not meeting the requirements of the program which they have applied under.

I have written extended posts on when and how eligibility is met, I will not argue with you over here. You are free to go and read them or have your own opinion. Just you let you know, not all application go to LVO, and for those being processed in Canada, the LVO is CPC, Ottawa.
Also read the ministerial instructions issued so far with regard to EE.

The case analyst only views application at face value since they are not aware of local laws or ways.

The only law for eligibility which is taken into consideration is the IRPA and the Regulations. As regards the assessment of work experience, and reviewing of the reference letters is done by the program analyst. Unless you have a weblink or have worked for IRCC, which says that LVO is conversant with the local laws and customs, which would be hilarious as all local visa offices are staffed by members of the Canada Foreign Affairs officers, and not immigration officials, which are two different agencies.

Foreign Affairs:http://www.international.gc.ca/international/index.aspx?lang=eng
Immigration Canada: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/

They work in sync with each other, but have entirely different roles.

If you have some insider info, that is a different case.