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The Liberal government of Canada is edging closer to reversing controversial changes to the way Canada grants citizenship that were brought in under the previous government, which was led by Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

The bill, known as C-6, is considered a centrepiece of the new government's legislative agenda. The Liberal chair of the House Immigration Committee, Borys Wrzesnewskyj, said this week that he hopes the bill will pass into law in time for Canada Day, July 1, with the only major potential stumbling block being how the bill is handled by Conservative Senators once it reaches the Senate.

Among the proposed amendments is the repeal of a controversial provision that allows the government to revoke citizenship from dual Canadian citizens convicted of terrorism, treason or espionage.

The legislation would also reduce the amount of time permanent residents have to live in Canada in order to become eligible to apply for citizenship, from four out of six years to three out five years, and would allow applicants who spent time in Canada on temporary status to count this time towards the three-year requirement. This particular aspect of the legislation has been warmly welcomed by new immigrants, foreign workers, and international students alike who view their long-term future in Canada.

In addition, the proposed amendments would repeal the intent to reside provision and remove language proficiency requirements for certain applicants.

It would also allow the government the right to seize documents used to obtain citizenship fraudulently. The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) announced earlier this week that two men, acting as immigration consultants, were summoned to appear in court. The men are accused of counselling individuals to misrepresent information in their applications, as well as forging and using counterfeit documents. They are also accused of having acted as immigration representatives in return for compensation, when in fact they were not authorized.

Currently, Canadian Immigration officials are looking at revoking the Canadian citizenship of about a dozen people after the auditor general found the government isn't doing enough to root out fraud in the citizenship system. The report uncovered instances of people with serious criminal records and others using potentially phoney addresses among those who managed to secure Canadian citizenship thanks to holes in the system.

Proposed changes to the Citizenship Act

A list of proposed amendments and how they correspond to the existing Citizenship Act can be viewed in the table below.

Current Act Proposed Amendment
Authority to revoke citizenship for certain acts against the national interest of Canada. These grounds include convictions of terrorism, high treason, treason or spying offences, depending on the sentence received, or for membership in an armed force or organized armed group engaged in armed conflict with Canada.

Repeal national interest grounds for revocation.
Applicants must have the intention to reside in Canada if granted citizenship. Repeal intent to reside provision.
Physical presence for 4 out of 6 years before the date of application. Physical presence for 3 out of 5 years before the date of application.
Time spent in Canada as a non-permanent resident may not be counted. Applicants may count each day they were physically present in Canada as a temporary resident or protected person before becoming a permanent resident as a half-day toward meeting the physical presence requirement for citizenship, up to a maximum of one year of credited time.
Minimum of 183 days physical presence in 4 of the last 6 years. Repeal the minimum 183 days physical presence in 4 of the last 6 years.
Applicants aged 14-64 must meet language requirements and pass knowledge test. Applicants aged 18-54 must meet language requirements and pass knowledge test.
File Canadian income taxes, if required to do so under the Income Tax Act, for four taxation years out of six years, matching physical presence requirement. File Canadian income taxes, if required to do so under the Income Tax Act, for three taxation years out of five years, matching proposed new physical presence requirement.
Time spent serving a conditional sentence order can be counted towards meeting physical presence requirements. Convicted individuals who are serving conditional sentence orders (sentences served in the community with certain conditions) are not prohibited from being granted citizenship or taking the oath of citizenship. Time spent under a conditional sentence order cannot be counted towards meeting the physical presence requirements; and those serving a conditional sentence order are prohibited from being granted citizenship or taking the oath of citizenship.
Provision prohibiting applicants from taking the oath of citizenship if they never met or no longer meet the requirements for the grant of citizenship, but does not apply to applications received before June 11, 2015. Provision prohibiting applicants from taking the oath of citizenship if they never met or no longer meet the requirements for the grant of citizenship also applies to applications still in process that were received prior to June 11, 2015.
No explicit authority for citizenship officers to seize fraudulent documents related to the processing of applications.

Authority to seize documents provided during the administration of the Citizenship Act if there are reasonable grounds to believe they are fraudulent, or being used fraudulently.
 

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Mr. McCallum told the House Immigration Committee last month that the implementation of C-6 would likely be delayed once it passed into law, “in order to prevent the buildup in [citizenship application] backlogs resulting from this change.”

Great that he admitted that there is a backlog! and that the the 3/5 years would not be implemented soon.
 

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Mr. McCallum told the House Immigration Committee last month that the implementation of C-6 would likely be delayed once it passed into law, “in order to prevent the buildup in [citizenship application] backlogs resulting from this change.”

Great that he admitted that there is a backlog! and that the the 3/5 years would not be implemented soon.
Do you have a link for what he exactly said?
 

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"The Bill C-6 was passed on the second stage with flying color, but it's early to celebrate as don't know how the conservative will handle it in Senate"


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Home Bills 42nd Parliament, 1st Session Votes #58
Vote #58 on May 17th, 2016

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C-6 An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to another Act

Vote topic
That Bill C-6, An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to another Act, {as amended}, be concurred in at report stage [with a further amendment/with further amendments] .

See context in the Debates.

Result
Yes 218No 88Green Liberal Bloc NDP Conservative
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Yes Xavier Barsalou-DuvalYes Mario BeaulieuYes Michel BoudriasYes Rhéal FortinYes Marilène GillYes Simon MarcilYes Monique PauzéYes Louis PlamondonYes Gabriel Ste-MarieYes Luc Thériault
Conservative
No Ziad AboultaifNo Dan AlbasNo Harold AlbrechtNo Dean AllisonNo Rona AmbroseNo David AndersonNo Mel ArnoldNo John BarlowNo Candice BergenDidn't vote Maxime BernierNo Luc BertholdNo James BezanNo Steven BlaneyNo Kelly BlockNo Sylvie BoucherNo John BrassardNo Gord BrownNo Blaine CalkinsNo Colin CarrieNo Michael ChongNo Alupa ClarkeNo Tony ClementNo Michael CooperNo Gérard DeltellNo Kerry DiotteNo Todd DohertyNo Earl DreeshenNo Jim EglinskiNo Ted FalkNo Ed FastDidn't vote Diane FinleyNo Cheryl GallantNo Bernard GénéreuxNo Garnett GenuisNo Marilyn GladuNo Joël GodinNo Jacques GourdeNo Rachael HarderNo Stephen HarperDidn't vote Jim HillyerNo Randy HobackNo Matt JenerouxNo Pat KellyDidn't vote Jason KenneyNo Peter KentNo Robert Gordon KitchenNo Tom KmiecDidn't vote Mike LakeNo Guy LauzonNo Denis LebelNo Kellie LeitchNo Ron LiepertNo Ben LobbNo Tom LukiwskiNo Dave MacKenzieNo Larry MaguireNo Kelly McCauleyNo Phil McColemanNo Cathy McLeodNo Larry MillerNo John NaterNo Rob NicholsonDidn't vote Alex NuttallNo Deepak ObhraiNo Erin O'TooleNo Pierre Paul-HusNo Pierre PoilievreDidn't vote Lisa RaittNo Alain RayesNo Scott ReidDidn't vote Michelle RempelNo Blake RichardsNo Gerry RitzNo Bob SaroyaNo Andrew ScheerNo Jamie SchmaleNo Martin ShieldsNo Bev ShipleyNo Robert SopuckNo Kevin SorensonNo Bruce StantonNo Mark StrahlNo Shannon StubbsDidn't vote David SweetNo David TilsonNo Bradley TrostNo Dave Van KesterenNo Peter Van LoanNo Karen VecchioNo Arnold ViersenNo Cathay WagantallNo Mark WarawaNo Chris WarkentinNo Dianne Lynn WattsNo Kevin WaughNo Len WebberNo Alice WongDidn't vote David YurdigaDidn't vote Bob Zimmer
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Yes John AldagYes Omar AlghabraYes Leona AlleslevYes William AmosYes Gary AnandasangareeYes René ArseneaultYes Chandra AryaYes Ramez AyoubYes Vance BadaweyYes Larry BagnellYes Navdeep BainsYes Frank BaylisYes Terry BeechDidn't vote Mauril BélangerYes Carolyn BennettDidn't vote Marie-Claude BibeauYes Chris BittleYes Bill BlairYes Randy BoissonnaultYes Mike BossioYes Bob BratinaYes Pierre BretonYes Scott BrisonYes Celina Caesar-ChavannesYes Jim CarrDidn't vote Bill CaseyYes Sean CaseyYes Bardish ChaggerYes François-Philippe ChampagneDidn't vote Arnold ChanYes Shaun ChenYes Serge CormierYes Rodger CuznerYes Julie DabrusinYes Pam DamoffYes Matt DeCourceyYes Sukh DhaliwalYes Anju DhillonYes Nicola Di IorioDidn't vote Stéphane DionYes Francis DrouinYes Emmanuel DubourgYes Jean-Yves DuclosYes Terry DuguidDidn't vote Kirsty DuncanYes Julie DzerowiczYes Wayne EasterYes Ali EhsassiYes Fayçal El-KhouryYes Neil EllisYes Nathaniel Erskine-SmithYes Mark EykingYes Doug EyolfsonYes Greg FergusYes Andy FillmoreYes Pat FinniganYes Darren FisherYes Peter FonsecaYes Judy FooteYes Peter FragiskatosYes Sean FraserYes Colin FraserDidn't vote Chrystia FreelandYes Hedy FryYes Stephen FuhrDidn't vote Marc GarneauYes Mark GerretsenYes Pam Goldsmith-JonesYes Ralph GoodaleYes Karina GouldYes David GrahamYes Raj GrewalDidn't vote Patty HajduYes Ken HardieYes TJ HarveyYes Kent HehrYes Mark HollandYes Anthony HousefatherYes Ahmed HussenYes Gudie HutchingsYes Angelo IaconoYes Mélanie JolyYes Yvonne JonesYes Bernadette JordanYes Majid JowhariYes Darshan Singh KangYes Iqra KhalidYes Kamal KheraYes David LamettiYes Kevin LamoureuxYes Linda LapointeYes Stéphane LauzonYes Dominic LeBlancYes Diane LebouthillierYes Paul LefebvreYes Denis LemieuxYes Andrew LeslieYes Michael LevittYes Joël LightboundYes Alaina LockhartYes Wayne LongYes Lloyd LongfieldYes Karen LudwigYes Lawrence MacAulayYes Steven MacKinnonYes James MaloneyYes Rémi MasséYes Bryan MayYes John McCallumYes Karen McCrimmonYes Ken McDonaldYes David McGuintyYes John McKayDidn't vote Catherine McKennaYes Ron McKinnonYes Michael McLeodDidn't vote Alexandra MendesYes Marco MendicinoYes MaryAnn MihychukYes Marc MillerYes Maryam MonsefDidn't vote Bill MorneauYes Bobby MorrisseyYes Joyce MurrayDidn't vote Eva NassifYes Bob NaultYes Jennifer O'ConnellYes Rob OliphantYes John OliverYes Seamus O'ReganYes Robert-Falcon OuelletteYes Denis ParadisYes Joe PeschisolidoYes Kyle PetersonYes Ginette Petitpas TaylorYes Jane PhilpottYes Michel PicardYes Jean-Claude PoissantYes Carla QualtroughYes Yasmin RatansiDidn't vote Geoff ReganYes Jean RiouxYes Yves RobillardYes Pablo RodriguezYes Sherry RomanadoYes Anthony RotaYes Kim RuddYes Dan RuimyYes Don RusnakYes Ruby SahotaYes Raj SainiYes Harjit S. SajjanYes Darrell SamsonYes Ramesh SanghaYes Randeep SaraiYes Francis ScarpaleggiaYes Peter SchiefkeYes Deb SchulteYes Marc SerréYes Judy SgroYes Brenda ShanahanYes Terry SheehanYes Jati SidhuYes Sonia SidhuYes Gagan SikandYes Scott SimmsYes Amarjeet SohiYes Francesco SorbaraYes Sven SpengemannYes Marwan TabbaraYes Geng TanYes Filomena TassiYes Hunter TootooYes Justin TrudeauYes Dan VandalYes Anita VandenbeldYes Adam VaughanYes Arif ViraniYes Nick WhalenYes Jonathan WilkinsonYes Jody Wilson-RaybouldYes Borys WrzesnewskyjYes Kate YoungYes Salma Zahid
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Yes Charlie AngusDidn't vote Niki AshtonDidn't vote Robert AubinYes Sheri BensonDidn't vote Daniel BlaikieYes Rachel BlaneyYes Alexandre BoulericeYes Marjolaine Boutin-SweetYes Ruth Ellen BrosseauYes Richard CanningsYes Guy CaronDidn't vote François ChoquetteYes David ChristophersonDidn't vote Nathan CullenYes Don DaviesYes Fin DonnellyYes Matthew DubéYes Linda DuncanYes Pierre-Luc DusseaultDidn't vote Scott DuvallYes Randall GarrisonYes Cheryl HardcastleYes Carol HughesYes Gord JohnsYes Georgina JoliboisYes Peter JulianYes Jenny KwanYes Hélène LaverdièreYes Alistair MacGregorYes Sheila MalcolmsonYes Brian MasseYes Irene MathyssenDidn't vote Christine MooreYes Thomas MulcairYes Pierre NantelYes Anne Minh-Thu QuachYes Tracey RamseyYes Murray RankinYes Romeo SaganashYes Brigitte SansoucyYes Wayne StetskiYes Kennedy StewartYes Karine TrudelYes Erin Weir
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kur761 said:
"The Bill C-6 was passed on the second stage with flying color, but it's early to celebrate as don't know how the conservative will handle it in Senate"
Good news, at least until for now the Bill status is as good as it can be 8).
 

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kur761 said:
"The Bill C-6 was passed on the second stage with flying color, but it's early to celebrate as don't know how the conservative will handle it in Senate"

Does it mean the bill passed the third reading and move forward to senate for the next stage?

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Home Bills 42nd Parliament, 1st Session Votes #58
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C-6 An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to another Act

Vote topic
That Bill C-6, An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to another Act, {as amended}, be concurred in at report stage [with a further amendment/with further amendments] .

See context in the Debates.

Result
Yes 218No 88Green Liberal Bloc NDP Conservative
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Yes Xavier Barsalou-DuvalYes Mario BeaulieuYes Michel BoudriasYes Rhéal FortinYes Marilène GillYes Simon MarcilYes Monique PauzéYes Louis PlamondonYes Gabriel Ste-MarieYes Luc Thériault
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No Ziad AboultaifNo Dan AlbasNo Harold AlbrechtNo Dean AllisonNo Rona AmbroseNo David AndersonNo Mel ArnoldNo John BarlowNo Candice BergenDidn't vote Maxime BernierNo Luc BertholdNo James BezanNo Steven BlaneyNo Kelly BlockNo Sylvie BoucherNo John BrassardNo Gord BrownNo Blaine CalkinsNo Colin CarrieNo Michael ChongNo Alupa ClarkeNo Tony ClementNo Michael CooperNo Gérard DeltellNo Kerry DiotteNo Todd DohertyNo Earl DreeshenNo Jim EglinskiNo Ted FalkNo Ed FastDidn't vote Diane FinleyNo Cheryl GallantNo Bernard GénéreuxNo Garnett GenuisNo Marilyn GladuNo Joël GodinNo Jacques GourdeNo Rachael HarderNo Stephen HarperDidn't vote Jim HillyerNo Randy HobackNo Matt JenerouxNo Pat KellyDidn't vote Jason KenneyNo Peter KentNo Robert Gordon KitchenNo Tom KmiecDidn't vote Mike LakeNo Guy LauzonNo Denis LebelNo Kellie LeitchNo Ron LiepertNo Ben LobbNo Tom LukiwskiNo Dave MacKenzieNo Larry MaguireNo Kelly McCauleyNo Phil McColemanNo Cathy McLeodNo Larry MillerNo John NaterNo Rob NicholsonDidn't vote Alex NuttallNo Deepak ObhraiNo Erin O'TooleNo Pierre Paul-HusNo Pierre PoilievreDidn't vote Lisa RaittNo Alain RayesNo Scott ReidDidn't vote Michelle RempelNo Blake RichardsNo Gerry RitzNo Bob SaroyaNo Andrew ScheerNo Jamie SchmaleNo Martin ShieldsNo Bev ShipleyNo Robert SopuckNo Kevin SorensonNo Bruce StantonNo Mark StrahlNo Shannon StubbsDidn't vote David SweetNo David TilsonNo Bradley TrostNo Dave Van KesterenNo Peter Van LoanNo Karen VecchioNo Arnold ViersenNo Cathay WagantallNo Mark WarawaNo Chris WarkentinNo Dianne Lynn WattsNo Kevin WaughNo Len WebberNo Alice WongDidn't vote David YurdigaDidn't vote Bob Zimmer
Green
Yes Elizabeth May
Liberal
Yes John AldagYes Omar AlghabraYes Leona AlleslevYes William AmosYes Gary AnandasangareeYes René ArseneaultYes Chandra AryaYes Ramez AyoubYes Vance BadaweyYes Larry BagnellYes Navdeep BainsYes Frank BaylisYes Terry BeechDidn't vote Mauril BélangerYes Carolyn BennettDidn't vote Marie-Claude BibeauYes Chris BittleYes Bill BlairYes Randy BoissonnaultYes Mike BossioYes Bob BratinaYes Pierre BretonYes Scott BrisonYes Celina Caesar-ChavannesYes Jim CarrDidn't vote Bill CaseyYes Sean CaseyYes Bardish ChaggerYes François-Philippe ChampagneDidn't vote Arnold ChanYes Shaun ChenYes Serge CormierYes Rodger CuznerYes Julie DabrusinYes Pam DamoffYes Matt DeCourceyYes Sukh DhaliwalYes Anju DhillonYes Nicola Di IorioDidn't vote Stéphane DionYes Francis DrouinYes Emmanuel DubourgYes Jean-Yves DuclosYes Terry DuguidDidn't vote Kirsty DuncanYes Julie DzerowiczYes Wayne EasterYes Ali EhsassiYes Fayçal El-KhouryYes Neil EllisYes Nathaniel Erskine-SmithYes Mark EykingYes Doug EyolfsonYes Greg FergusYes Andy FillmoreYes Pat FinniganYes Darren FisherYes Peter FonsecaYes Judy FooteYes Peter FragiskatosYes Sean FraserYes Colin FraserDidn't vote Chrystia FreelandYes Hedy FryYes Stephen FuhrDidn't vote Marc GarneauYes Mark GerretsenYes Pam Goldsmith-JonesYes Ralph GoodaleYes Karina GouldYes David GrahamYes Raj GrewalDidn't vote Patty HajduYes Ken HardieYes TJ HarveyYes Kent HehrYes Mark HollandYes Anthony HousefatherYes Ahmed HussenYes Gudie HutchingsYes Angelo IaconoYes Mélanie JolyYes Yvonne JonesYes Bernadette JordanYes Majid JowhariYes Darshan Singh KangYes Iqra KhalidYes Kamal KheraYes David LamettiYes Kevin LamoureuxYes Linda LapointeYes Stéphane LauzonYes Dominic LeBlancYes Diane LebouthillierYes Paul LefebvreYes Denis LemieuxYes Andrew LeslieYes Michael LevittYes Joël LightboundYes Alaina LockhartYes Wayne LongYes Lloyd LongfieldYes Karen LudwigYes Lawrence MacAulayYes Steven MacKinnonYes James MaloneyYes Rémi MasséYes Bryan MayYes John McCallumYes Karen McCrimmonYes Ken McDonaldYes David McGuintyYes John McKayDidn't vote Catherine McKennaYes Ron McKinnonYes Michael McLeodDidn't vote Alexandra MendesYes Marco MendicinoYes MaryAnn MihychukYes Marc MillerYes Maryam MonsefDidn't vote Bill MorneauYes Bobby MorrisseyYes Joyce MurrayDidn't vote Eva NassifYes Bob NaultYes Jennifer O'ConnellYes Rob OliphantYes John OliverYes Seamus O'ReganYes Robert-Falcon OuelletteYes Denis ParadisYes Joe PeschisolidoYes Kyle PetersonYes Ginette Petitpas TaylorYes Jane PhilpottYes Michel PicardYes Jean-Claude PoissantYes Carla QualtroughYes Yasmin RatansiDidn't vote Geoff ReganYes Jean RiouxYes Yves RobillardYes Pablo RodriguezYes Sherry RomanadoYes Anthony RotaYes Kim RuddYes Dan RuimyYes Don RusnakYes Ruby SahotaYes Raj SainiYes Harjit S. SajjanYes Darrell SamsonYes Ramesh SanghaYes Randeep SaraiYes Francis ScarpaleggiaYes Peter SchiefkeYes Deb SchulteYes Marc SerréYes Judy SgroYes Brenda ShanahanYes Terry SheehanYes Jati SidhuYes Sonia SidhuYes Gagan SikandYes Scott SimmsYes Amarjeet SohiYes Francesco SorbaraYes Sven SpengemannYes Marwan TabbaraYes Geng TanYes Filomena TassiYes Hunter TootooYes Justin TrudeauYes Dan VandalYes Anita VandenbeldYes Adam VaughanYes Arif ViraniYes Nick WhalenYes Jonathan WilkinsonYes Jody Wilson-RaybouldYes Borys WrzesnewskyjYes Kate YoungYes Salma Zahid
NDP
Yes Charlie AngusDidn't vote Niki AshtonDidn't vote Robert AubinYes Sheri BensonDidn't vote Daniel BlaikieYes Rachel BlaneyYes Alexandre BoulericeYes Marjolaine Boutin-SweetYes Ruth Ellen BrosseauYes Richard CanningsYes Guy CaronDidn't vote François ChoquetteYes David ChristophersonDidn't vote Nathan CullenYes Don DaviesYes Fin DonnellyYes Matthew DubéYes Linda DuncanYes Pierre-Luc DusseaultDidn't vote Scott DuvallYes Randall GarrisonYes Cheryl HardcastleYes Carol HughesYes Gord JohnsYes Georgina JoliboisYes Peter JulianYes Jenny KwanYes Hélène LaverdièreYes Alistair MacGregorYes Sheila MalcolmsonYes Brian MasseYes Irene MathyssenDidn't vote Christine MooreYes Thomas MulcairYes Pierre NantelYes Anne Minh-Thu QuachYes Tracey RamseyYes Murray RankinYes Romeo SaganashYes Brigitte SansoucyYes Wayne StetskiYes Kennedy StewartYes Karine TrudelYes Erin Weir
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sopranotb said:
Do you have a link for what he exactly said?

Play the following link around 41:00 and then you will get the answer!

http://www.cpac.ca/en/programs/in-committee-house-of-commons/episodes/47403410/
 

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https://openparliament.ca/bills/42-1/C-6/

third reading status: May 17, 2016 Passed That Bill C-6, An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make
 

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Any idea when it will be implemented??
 

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Nobody knows for certain.

The bill has passed through the major stages in the House of Commons (the Lower House of the Parliament). These include: first reading, second reading, the committee stage and report stage. There is one last stage remaining, called third reading which was scheduled to happen last Wednesday but after a brawl in the House it got postponed.

Now keep in mind that in ALL of these stages the Liberals (the party in power who brought the bill) were the majority. So no problems there.

The bill, after it passes third reading - a formality, needs to be sent to the Senate (the Upper House of Parliament). There it needs to follow the same path, namely first reading, second reading, committee stage, third reading. If it passes all steps there then it becomes law. If not it goes back and forth between the Houses until everybody agrees.

Keep in mind that the Conservatives now have majority in the Senate. Even more importantly they have majority in the Senate Committee, which means that it only takes those people to delay the bill.

That said, even if the bill passes all stages, it's been circulated that there will be a delay in implementing the 3-year residency requirement (other changes will take effect immediately) to prevent a backlog. Nobody knows how long - maybe 3 months, maybe 6, maybe 12.

That's the story - in a nutshell.
 

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Ok, thanks for the information
 

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Is there a limit to counting # of days pre PR ?

Like if you spent 18 months in Country post PR and 30 months post PR, would he able to qualify ?
 

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punk said:
Is there a limit to counting # of days pre PR ?

Like if you spent 18 months in Country post PR and 30 months post PR, would he able to qualify ?
a maximum of 1 year. Meaning 2 years maximum pre pr would gives you 1 year toward citizenship. If 3 years pre pr you still get ine year only..