Sponsoring Parents in 2015

[civic]

Currently CIC are working on parent applications from end of 2009 and beginning of 2010. Long time yet before they start on this year's applications.
Cases between 28 May 2010 and 30 April 2011 were asked for additional documents at end of July 2014. That letter was sent to about 20000 applicants. Majority of processing for these cases will begin sometime this year and then into 2016.

At the closure of parent sponsorship in Nov 2011 there was a backlog of approximately 165000 parents waiting. We were told that will be halved by 2015 and then backlog will be about 50000 going forward.

Last couple of years visa allocation was 25000 for parents. this year in 2015 it is 20000 only. I think most people can see that even after 2015 there is still a significant backlog to clear. Don't forget that probably around July or Aug the final lot of applicants (May 2011 to Nov 2011)who applied before the programme was suspended in Nov 2011 will begin processing. This will take us well in 2016 and probably 2017.

Then in 2017 or likely 2018 it is likely CIC will begin on the applicants who applied in 2014 under the new redesigned programme.

Unfortunately its a very long wait. Most forum members have had to wait many years and while I do hope going forward things become faster I wouldn't count on it.

All the best to everyone waiting.

What I dont understand is that parents visa involves 2 steps: CPC-M and visa offices abroad. The delay usually happens at visa office abroad. If they try to cut it down to 3 year, would that be 3 year at Mississauga or 3 year in total waiting time?

 

[jhutti]

Currently CIC are working on parent applications from end of 2009 and beginning of 2010. Long time yet before they start on this year's applications.
Cases between 28 May 2010 and 30 April 2011 were asked for additional documents at end of July 2014. That letter was sent to about 20000 applicants. Majority of processing for these cases will begin sometime this year and then into 2016.

At the closure of parent sponsorship in Nov 2011 there was a backlog of approximately 165000 parents waiting. We were told that will be halved by 2015 and then backlog will be about 50000 going forward.

Last couple of years visa allocation was 25000 for parents. this year in 2015 it is 20000 only. I think most people can see that even after 2015 there is still a significant backlog to clear. Don't forget that probably around July or Aug the final lot of applicants (May 2011 to Nov 2011)who applied before the programme was suspended in Nov 2011 will begin processing. This will take us well in 2016 and probably 2017.

Then in 2017 or likely 2018 it is likely CIC will begin on the applicants who applied in 2014 under the new redesigned programme.

Unfortunately its a very long wait. Most forum members have had to wait many years and while I do hope going forward things become faster I wouldn't count on it.

All the best to everyone waiting.

This year (2015) cases are as close as May 2011 to Nov 2011 cases. Only Diff of 5 K applications.
Even if visas reservation is reduced from 25k to 20k per year. That will not affect the number of cases being finalized.
Since number of parents with dependent child’s are reduced hugely, due to changes in rules.
2015 cases & 2014 cases is all in total only 10k. This will should get cover in a year time of 20K visa quota whenever it starts.

 

[soonihope]

What I dont understand is that parents visa involves 2 steps: CPC-M and visa offices abroad. The delay usually happens at visa office abroad. If they try to cut it down to 3 year, would that be 3 year at Mississauga or 3 year in total waiting time?

Eventually lets say by 2020( I just picked this year as an example) all old cases are cleared. Then if 5000 applications are accepted and the same number of visa allocation is provided, it should not take even 1 year.

Unfortunately the problem as of now is there are probably about 70000-80000 people waiting for those 20000 visas. Obviously 50000 aren't going to get one this year. Next year 30000 will be left assuming 20000 visas are allocated to parents and grandparents and so on.

Until the complete backlog and waiting applications are cleared there will continue to be a wait. By the time the waitlist is cleared in a few years it will probably be even harder to get your application accepted on time in the limited quota as disscussed earlier in this thread.
Under the old system regardless of when you applied or how many people applied all complete applications were processed but the wait was getting longer and longer.

Under the new system the wait will eventually in 3 or 4 years get acceptable but more people will miss the chance to bring their parents to Canada because of the application 5000 limit.

 

[soonihope]

This year (2015) cases are as close as May 2011 to Nov 2011 cases. Only Diff of 5 K applications.
Even if visas reservation is reduced from 25k to 20k per year. That will not affect the number of cases being finalized.
Since number of parents with dependent child's are reduced hugely, due to changes in rules.
2015 cases & 2014 cases is all in total only 10k. This will should get cover in a year time of 20K visa quota whenever it starts.

You fail to note that at the end of 2015 there will still be about 50000 old cases waiting for visas. these cases will take up all visas for 2016 and 2017 and even 10000 visas for 2018.
2014 and 2015 cases will be issued visas after these cases have been cleared. Therefore the earliest for visa issue for 2014/15 cases if same visa allocation moving forward is late 2018.

 

[dowhile]

You fail to note that at the end of 2015 there will still be about 50000 old cases waiting for visas. these cases will take up all visas for 2016 and 2017 and even 10000 visas for 2018.
2014 and 2015 cases will be issued visas after these cases have been cleared. Therefore the earliest for visa issue for 2014/15 cases if same visa allocation moving forward is late 2018.

This is the reason I think that no matter you miss this year or not, 2016 application will probably have the same timeline with 2014/2015 class as well. Maybe 2017 is not too bad either. Provided the rule does not change in the following year.

 

[jhutti]

You fail to note that at the end of 2015 there will still be about 50000 old cases waiting for visas. these cases will take up all visas for 2016 and 2017 and even 10000 visas for 2018.
2014 and 2015 cases will be issued visas after these cases have been cleared. Therefore the earliest for visa issue for 2014/15 cases if same visa allocation moving forward is late 2018.

Out of 50K ,around 15-20% old cases (10K) will face rejection due to reasons ranging from income proof, dependent child & medical issue. The more longer wait, the more rejections. 2017 or 2018 is my gut feeling for new cases for 2014/2015. Rest we will know with time.


Anyone get his/her CC charged please share.....

 

[nikary]

You fail to note that at the end of 2015 there will still be about 50000 old cases waiting for visas. these cases will take up all visas for 2016 and 2017 and even 10000 visas for 2018.
2014 and 2015 cases will be issued visas after these cases have been cleared. Therefore the earliest for visa issue for 2014/15 cases if same visa allocation moving forward is late 2018.

I think it also depends on the application submitted in full in previous years. I know few people whose parents came here within three years. I am wandering, if lots of those applications are pending due to missing documents, you think that they process the application next in line that is completed fully.

 

[civic]

the annual quota is for approved applications (principal applicants), not the number of visas granted. If 20,000 parents visa approved in 2014, that means about 70,000 people will immigrate to Canada under the PGP class. Am I understanding it right? Or if the allocated number in immigration plan is for number of visa then far less is the number of approved applications. If there is a backlog of 50,000 pending visas, then that translate to only 15-20k applications that are in current backlog.

 

[FSWCEC]

the annual quota is for approved applications (principal applicants), not the number of visas granted. If 20,000 parents visa approved in 2014, that means about 70,000 people will immigrate to Canada under the PGP class. Am I understanding it right? Or if the allocated number in immigration plan is for number of visa then far less is the number of approved applications. If there is a backlog of 50,000 pending visas, then that translate to only 15-20k applications that are in current backlog.

Quota is always based on the number of applications not on number of people

 

[PMM]

Hi

it is 50% chance that they might accept money order & bank drafts. Glad you make correction. I only realised after sending the first application. The decision to accept such payments will solely depend on payment clearance section. No one knows, not even CIC agents know about what will happen. We will know in couple of weeks time.

Way less than 50% From the instructions

Pay your fees using the fee payment form
Application fees are payable by credit card or certified cheque to the Receiver General in Canadian funds. Pay your fees using the fee payment form for sponsors of parents and grandparents (IMM 5770) (PDF, 565 KB) specific to this application package. Other forms of payment will not be accepted.

 

[soonihope]

Out of 50K ,around 15-20% old cases (10K) will face rejection due to reasons ranging from income proof, dependent child & medical issue. The more longer wait, the more rejections. 2017 or 2018 is my gut feeling for new cases for 2014/2015. Rest we will know with time.

I think rejection rates are difficult to predict but the reasons you give for rejection of old cases will also be applicable to the new cases of 2014/15.
If anything the new rules are much stricter i.e higher income levels and lower dependent age, as far as medical rejection no one can predict. parents can become sick at anytime no one can control or predict that regardless of when they applied.

Even therefore just because an application is accepted in Jan 2015 it in no way confirms approval for visa. It is however a very important first step in a long process with much uncertainty. The risk of rejection hangs over everyone until the visas are stamped in the passport regardless of when you apply.

 

[Lola2301]

I'm on the same boat with the darn Canada Post. By no means I was trying to save money. If I knew there's difference between Canada Post and other courier services, I'm willing to pay way more for a guaranteed service on time. I sent my package on Dec 31 in the morning (from Ottawa), and the representative told me with full confidence that it's to be delivered on the 2nd. But it turned out that no truck came to pick up the packages on 31st. It was picked up on the 2nd, and from the website, it shows "Out for delivery" since 11:24am on 5th. I'm speechless about their service. I'm so frustrated for trusting something with no credibility.

Finally got notification that my application was delivered January 6 at 12:40 PM...

 

[SKK18]

I sent notrified copies of my NOC...this is what one of our Lawyer friend suggested cuz I didn't had original of one of them.

My package was delivered to mail room on 2nd morning at 9:40 am. It was hectic at Fed-ex office on 30th I'm not sure how many applications really made it to CIC office in time.

I'm not sure if we will be dis-qualified because of that....

 

[jhutti]

Hi


Way less than 50% From the instructions

Pay your fees using the fee payment form
Application fees are payable by credit card or certified cheque to the Receiver General in Canadian funds. Pay your fees using the fee payment form for sponsors of parents and grandparents (IMM 5770) (PDF, 565 KB) specific to this application package. Other forms of payment will not be accepted.

As such to cover myself I have send second application with credit card payment. However the defination of "certified cheque" need not mean personal cheque certified by bank in CIC context. if you see payment form of IMM5401 used in PR application. One need to tick "certified cheque" option even if one pay by money order or bank draft". The "other form of payment not acceptable are primarily focus on online payment option" Anyway we will figure out in few days time.

 

[jhutti]

I sent notrified copies of my NOC...this is what one of our Lawyer friend suggested cuz I didn't had original of one of them.

My package was delivered to mail room on 2nd morning at 9:40 am. It was hectic at Fed-ex office on 30th I'm not sure how many applications really made it to CIC office in time.

I'm not sure if we will be dis-qualified because of that....

you should be fine. But how can notary certify your NOA copy without seeing original. Anyway best of luck