Reading last few pages of this thread is kind of painful. Not getting in to whole FSW vs CEC debate as both sides have their emotions and arguments. What is hurtful is blatant prejudice and generalizations. I hope everyone gets their opportunity to get Canadian PR but folks one of the appealing feature of living in Canada is the open and accepting culture. Don't let your short term disappointments make you see other human beings as lesser beings than you. I understand these are volatile and uncertain times but blaming each other constantly will impact your subconscious mind for a long time. This us vs them thinking causes harm in more ways than one.