Ray of hope - FSW - 1

[ZAtoCD]

Also, some with 2 years of working experience and 2-year diploma in college still cannot reach 470 tho.

I've never liked the whole program debate thing that goes on here, but I feel I need to set some things straight.

Not sure what you think the benefit is of being an FSW candidate? We don't get any extra points for being FSW. CEC candidates get extra points for their work experience being inside Canada. So, in a general draw, there is already added benefit in being a CEC candidate. That's why the general ones are the fairest, because everyone has a chance to take part, and get ranked on the same scoring system, and the top scorers get an invitation. It gives everyone the same chance, and anyone who doesn't get it will need to somehow increase their score for the future rounds.

Those of us who are FSW who have those high scores have them because we've worked and waited to get them. I got a high score as an FSW, but I am 27 years old, have max IELTS points, 4 years of work experience, and a Master's degree. Those things are not because I'm FSW. They apply because I worked my ass off for years to get that score. If I was CEC, I would have an even higher score.

A friend of mine is also FSW, but his score is like 440-something. So, no, being FSW doesn't just get you an invitation easily. He's super keen to get in, and I feel as bad for him as I do for all the other candidates below the common cut-off scores. It's not CEC vs FSW. These programs are assessed using the same criteria - the same scoring system. The only major difference is CEC candidates get extra points for Canadian work experience.

If there's any competition here, it's not CEC vs FSW. It's high scoring candidates vs low scoring candidates. That's not program-specific. That's just dependent on where we each are right now in our lives, and what value the Canadian government places on us as individual potential immigrants.

 

[vicecarloans]

I've never liked the whole program debate thing that goes on here, but I feel I need to set some things straight.

Not sure what you think the benefit is of being an FSW candidate? We don't get any extra points for being FSW. CEC candidates get extra points for their work experience being inside Canada. So, in a general draw, there is already added benefit in being a CEC candidate. That's why the general ones are the fairest, because everyone has a chance to take part, and get ranked on the same scoring system, and the top scorers get an invitation. It gives everyone the same chance, and anyone who doesn't get it will need to somehow increase their score for the future rounds.

Those of us who are FSW who have those high scores have them because we've worked and waited to get them. I got a high score as an FSW, but I am 27 years old, have max IELTS points, 4 years of work experience, and a Master's degree. Those things are not because I'm FSW. They apply because I worked my ass off for years to get that score. If I was CEC, I would have an even higher score.

A friend of mine is also FSW, but his score is like 440-something. So, no, being FSW doesn't just get you an invitation easily. He's super keen to get in, and I feel as bad for him as I do for all the other candidates below the common cut-off scores. It's not CEC vs FSW. These programs are assessed using the same criteria - the same scoring system. The only major difference is CEC candidates get extra points for Canadian work experience.

If there's any competition here, it's not CEC vs FSW. It's high scoring candidates vs low scoring candidates. That's not program-specific. That's just dependent on where we each are right now in our lives, and what value the Canadian government places on us as individual potential immigrants.

I see...yet during program specific, scores went down dramatically. What’s your take on that? Also, from my perspective, the rewards for CEC candidates (fresh grads PGWP, early stage in career, etc) don’t enable them to make it to the cut. These people including me have been here for such a long time that I forgot what it’s like back home. Having to go back after such a tremendous amount of time is gonna be something...
But hey, I agree with your points about high scoring vs low scoring candidates and it’s up to the government’s scheme

 

[zupermarn]

I don't understand this though. If you qualify under CEC, you get a ton of points.

No bro.

That's not how it works. I qualify under CEC, my age range is the peak age range Canada wants. I even maxed out my english exam and I maxed out my 3 years PGWP. But the score is still very low

 

[zupermarn]

In your dream, with CLB 10 then yes.

Yo bro,

Even with CLB 10.
I maxed my english exam and score is still low.

 

[zupermarn]

I've never liked the whole program debate thing that goes on here, but I feel I need to set some things straight.

Not sure what you think the benefit is of being an FSW candidate? We don't get any extra points for being FSW. CEC candidates get extra points for their work experience being inside Canada. So, in a general draw, there is already added benefit in being a CEC candidate. That's why the general ones are the fairest, because everyone has a chance to take part, and get ranked on the same scoring system, and the top scorers get an invitation. It gives everyone the same chance, and anyone who doesn't get it will need to somehow increase their score for the future rounds.

Those of us who are FSW who have those high scores have them because we've worked and waited to get them. I got a high score as an FSW, but I am 27 years old, have max IELTS points, 4 years of work experience, and a Master's degree. Those things are not because I'm FSW. They apply because I worked my ass off for years to get that score. If I was CEC, I would have an even higher score.

A friend of mine is also FSW, but his score is like 440-something. So, no, being FSW doesn't just get you an invitation easily. He's super keen to get in, and I feel as bad for him as I do for all the other candidates below the common cut-off scores. It's not CEC vs FSW. These programs are assessed using the same criteria - the same scoring system. The only major difference is CEC candidates get extra points for Canadian work experience.

If there's any competition here, it's not CEC vs FSW. It's high scoring candidates vs low scoring candidates. That's not program-specific. That's just dependent on where we each are right now in our lives, and what value the Canadian government places on us as individual potential immigrants.

I like your point. It should not be "CEC vs FSW. It's high scoring candidates vs low scoring candidates"

 

[vicecarloans]

Yo bro,

Even with CLB 10.
I maxed my english exam and score is still low.

Sorry for overgeneralizing...

 

[Carmen01]

I've never liked the whole program debate thing that goes on here, but I feel I need to set some things straight.

Not sure what you think the benefit is of being an FSW candidate? We don't get any extra points for being FSW. CEC candidates get extra points for their work experience being inside Canada. So, in a general draw, there is already added benefit in being a CEC candidate. That's why the general ones are the fairest, because everyone has a chance to take part, and get ranked on the same scoring system, and the top scorers get an invitation. It gives everyone the same chance, and anyone who doesn't get it will need to somehow increase their score for the future rounds.

Those of us who are FSW who have those high scores have them because we've worked and waited to get them. I got a high score as an FSW, but I am 27 years old, have max IELTS points, 4 years of work experience, and a Master's degree. Those things are not because I'm FSW. They apply because I worked my ass off for years to get that score. If I was CEC, I would have an even higher score.

A friend of mine is also FSW, but his score is like 440-something. So, no, being FSW doesn't just get you an invitation easily. He's super keen to get in, and I feel as bad for him as I do for all the other candidates below the common cut-off scores. It's not CEC vs FSW. These programs are assessed using the same criteria - the same scoring system. The only major difference is CEC candidates get extra points for Canadian work experience.

If there's any competition here, it's not CEC vs FSW. It's high scoring candidates vs low scoring candidates. That's not program-specific. That's just dependent on where we each are right now in our lives, and what value the Canadian government places on us as individual potential immigrants.

With this few points of his, I hope he has been able to confuse and not convince you.

Thank you!!

 

[Carmen01]

No bro.

That's not how it works. I qualify under CEC, my age range is the peak age range Canada wants. I even maxed out my english exam and I maxed out my 3 years PGWP. But the score is still very low

Do you have a postgraduate or professional degree?

 

[joconstantine]

No bro.

That's not how it works. I qualify under CEC, my age range is the peak age range Canada wants. I even maxed out my english exam and I maxed out my 3 years PGWP. But the score is still very low

Did you manage to obtain a bachelor degree?

 

[Himanshu6444]

Most of the international students in Canada come here for undergraduate diploma programs.

If after 12th standard, someone goes to Canada for the 2-year program, and then manage to attain 2 years of professional experience (out of 3 years time available), and then get 8777, they'll still be at 453.

If it is a 3-year program or a degree, then with 2 years of Canadian experience, it comes out to be 485. But with 1 year of experience, it is still 462.

So if a student here is not a degree, then it practically not possible to get through express entry right now.

 

[sun2088]

No bro.

That's not how it works. I qualify under CEC, my age range is the peak age range Canada wants. I even maxed out my english exam and I maxed out my 3 years PGWP. But the score is still very low

This probably means that you don't have a post graduate degree?

 

[zupermarn]

With this few points of his, I hope he has been able to confuse and not convince you.

Thank you!!

lmaooooo biko don't kill me

 

[huyypeter]

No bro.

That's not how it works. I qualify under CEC, my age range is the peak age range Canada wants. I even maxed out my english exam and I maxed out my 3 years PGWP. But the score is still very low

It's impossible. If you had the PGWP, you must had at least the 2 years diploma degree in Canada. You have 3 years exp in Canada, CLB 10 and 2 years Canadian Diploma, you are under 30, it should be 473 already, double check your profile man

 

[zupermarn]

Do you have a postgraduate or professional degree?

College Diploma cause international student fee is EXPENSIVE lol

 

[zupermarn]

It's impossible. If you had the PGWP, you must had at least the 2 years diploma degree in Canada. You have 3 years exp in Canada, CLB 10 and 2 years Canadian Diploma, you are under 30, it should be 473 already, double check your profile man

I said I maxed out my 3 years PGWP does not mean that I have 3 years work permit.
Obviously there was a 6 months + space were i was looking for job under the required NOC