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g126 said:
Even so... my wife has a bachelors degree and CLB7 my scores is about 5 points higher with her than without!

Spouses are worth 40 points but it's not difficult for them to get around 25 of those 40 (even without Canadian Exp.) which means they generally add to your points and don't drag you down....
That's only possible when your own score is low that spouse points deduction really has no significant effect. And Even if we assume spouse can get around 25 points without canadian exp it still reduces points for main applicant.

max age point 110(without) - 100(with Spouse) = 10
Two degree 128 - 119 = 9
CLB 9 in each 124 - 116 =8
Total = 27 whereas Spouse gets you 25 points as you said which still leaves you with 2 points of deficiency.
 

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simplynd2804 said:
That's only possible when your own score is low that spouse points deduction really has no significant effect. And Even if we assume spouse can get around 25 points without canadian exp it still reduces points for main applicant.

max age point 110(without) - 100(with Spouse) = 10
Two degree 128 - 119 = 9
CLB 9 in each 124 - 116 =8
Total = 27 whereas Spouse gets you 25 points as you said which still leaves you with 2 points of deficiency.
So your claim that having a spouse makes you lose lots of points isn't true.
 

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kryt0n said:
So your claim that having a spouse makes you lose lots of points isn't true.
Makes a difference when you are trying to achieve max points.
In theory you don't lose point with spouse at all because without spouse max point core human capital is 500. with spouse that reduces to 460 for main applicant but spouse can get 40 points so in total it's same.

However that's little bit impossible practically because you need spouse with master/Phd, CLB 9 in each section and 5 years of canadian experience at minimum to score all 40 spouse point.

So you tell me if I am correct or not, because I haven't seen a single person who has spouse which full fills all above and yet waiting for PR in EE pool.
 

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simplynd2804 said:
Makes a difference when you are trying to achieve max points.
In theory you don't lose point with spouse at all because without spouse max point core human capital is 500. with spouse that reduces to 460 for main applicant but spouse can get 40 points so in total it's same.

However that's little bit impossible practically because you need spouse with master/Phd, CLB 9 in each section and 5 years of canadian experience at minimum to score all 40 spouse point.

So you tell me if I am correct or not, because I haven't seen a single person who has spouse which full fills all above and yet waiting for PR in EE pool.
Ignoring finding you examples as that's impossible unless someone speaks up, I'm more concerned with the amount of people willing to not include their spouses and just invite them later. My spouse is on my profile. He got clb 10 in all and has a bachelor's. The only thing keeping us at 440 points is MY language score, which I hope to improve soon. If so we will be looking at 471 points. At that point I guess I would be a good example.
 

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Ignoring finding you examples as that's impossible unless someone speaks up, I'm more concerned with the amount of people willing to not include their spouses and just invite them later. My spouse is on my profile. He got clb 10 in all and has a bachelor's. The only thing keeping us at 440 points is MY language score, which I hope to improve soon. If so we will be looking at 471 points. At that point I guess I would be a good example.
I am not encouraging anyone either to not include spouse. My point initially was to someone asking why people with canadian education are not above 500 points and in reply to that I was just trying to justify the calculation and reasons why people canadian education and canadian exp can't reach above 500. one of those reason were that usually half of people with Cad edu and Cad exp are married and have spouse in profile which also restrict them to reach full potential CRS, keeping them below 500 somewhere around at 480.

Your example( you reaching at 471 with spouse) also helps my argument actually of most people being around at 480 with spouse.
 

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Is there a reason why people think the next draw will be on the 12th?
 

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HoPe90 said:
Is there a reason why people think the next draw will be on the 12th?
No one thinks it's on 12th. It's probably on 14th, because,
1. that's 2nd Wednesday from last draw
2. As per IRCC email, everyone has till 12th to update profile while CIC is working on technical issue.
 

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Another thing to consider is that when a married individual receives an ITA and gets approved, both the applicant and their spouse receive a PR. That is two individuals that will become a part of Canada's economy. So if the spouse, in the eyes of the government, holds no value in terms of education or work experience he/she becomes a liability on the economy. 40/500 points for the spouse is too little when you consider that a lot of marriages end up in divorce. Perhaps the spouse that was given a PR based on an Economic immigration stream could end up being a liability on the economy.

So the fact that it is harder for a married couple to receive a high score is merely in consequence of the potential affect 2 people can have on the economy vs 1.

simplynd2804 said:
I am not encouraging anyone either to not include spouse. My point initially was to someone asking why people with canadian education are not above 500 points and in reply to that I was just trying to justify the calculation and reasons why people canadian education and canadian exp can't reach above 500. one of those reason were that usually half of people with Cad edu and Cad exp are married and have spouse in profile which also restrict them to reach full potential CRS, keeping them below 500 somewhere around at 480.

Your example( you reaching at 471 with spouse) also helps my argument actually of most people being around at 480 with spouse.
 

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good point. IELTS must be really poor.
Not really. I got perfect scores across the board in IELTS, studied in Canada for 2 years and 1year work exp and I have a mere 464. I lost 5points the other day when I turned 35. I am not sure how it works but students are not over the top.
 

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Adding my spouse added for me around 13 points. She has everything maxed out except the Canadian experience which is 0 (FSW). For someone like me who has only a bachelor's, it was a blessing to add my wife with an MBA and perfect score in IELTS.
 

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Aal_ said:
Adding my spouse added for me around 13 points. She has everything maxed out except the Canadian experience which is 0 (FSW). For someone like me who has only a bachelor's, it was a blessing to add my wife with an MBA and perfect score in IELTS.
Did you calculate the score with your spouse as the main applicant?
 

shasai

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Hi, in my EE profile i see some points for below. Can someone help me to understand

CRS - Skill Transferability - Education -50 points
CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience -50 points
 

shasai

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Sorry i miss some text here....

I have points for below
CRS - Human Capital - Level of Education-119 points
CRS - Human Capital - Canadian Work Experience-46 points


Is it repeated....little confuse