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Genuinely curious how folks with multiple years of canadian workex and canadian education do not breach 490-500 points. Not trying to be arrogant, but it seems impossible in my eyes, unless you're not getting any points for age and IELTS
 

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lifein360 said:
Genuinely curious how folks with multiple years of canadian workex and canadian education do not breach 490-500 points. Not trying to be arrogant, but it seems impossible in my eyes, unless you're not getting any points for age and IELTS
good point. IELTS must be really poor.
 

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lifein360 said:
Genuinely curious how folks with multiple years of canadian workex and canadian education do not breach 490-500 points. Not trying to be arrogant, but it seems impossible in my eyes, unless you're not getting any points for age and IELTS
I share that same point of view... With 2+ years of Canadian Exp plus education that's an extra 100 points! Man if I had that I wouldn't need a NoM :p

Not to mention if you've been on Canada for 6 to 8 years immersed in english (or French) you should be able to get CLB 9, you make have to take some lessons and do some work, but's much easier for you than for someone who lives in a non english/french speaking country that has limited contact with the language.
 

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Genuinely curious how folks with multiple years of canadian workex and canadian education do not breach 490-500 points. Not trying to be arrogant, but it seems impossible in my eyes, unless you're not getting any points for age and IELTS
Because usually the people with canadian education and experience are people with no prior foreign work experience. and even if you give max points for IELTS it reaches to only 514.

Age = 110,
Master Degree = 135,
2 year Cad Exp = 53,
IELTS = 136,
skill factor = 50
Cad edu = 30

Realistically, that's not possible or hardly 1% can get max points in everything. Active people in pool are mostly with Bachelor or two degree and IELTS is somewhere around 9clb and only with one year experience so that would put them somewhere in range of 478. It reduces more if they are married in that case scores goes down by 8-10 points more because again having a spouse who has masters and can score 100% in language and also have Canadian experience is dreamworld. Only few can manage that.

So I guess this will answer your question. Most people in pool with Cad edu are in range of 480 or below.
 

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simplynd2804 said:
Because usually the people with canadian education and experience are people with no prior foreign work experience. and even if you give max points for IELTS it reaches to only 514.

Age = 110,
Master Degree = 135,
2 year Cad Exp = 53,
IELTS = 136,
skill factor = 50
Cad edu = 30

Realistically, that's not possible or hardly 1% can get max points in everything. Active people in pool are mostly with Bachelor or two degree and IELTS is somewhere around 9clb and only with one year experience so that would put them somewhere in range of 478. It reduces more if they are married in that case scores goes down by 8-10 points more because again having a spouse who has masters and can score 100% in language and also have Canadian experience is dreamworld. Only few can manage that.

So I guess this will answer your question. Most people in pool with Cad edu are in range of 480 or below.
Ah yes, you're quite correct... without the foreign work exp you lose (or fail to gain) 50 points on the skills transf section. Hadn't realize that!
 

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Because usually the people with canadian education and experience are people with no prior foreign work experience. and even if you give max points for IELTS it reaches to only 514.

Age = 110,
Master Degree = 135,
2 year Cad Exp = 53,
IELTS = 136,
skill factor = 50
Cad edu = 30

Realistically, that's not possible or hardly 1% can get max points in everything. Active people in pool are mostly with Bachelor or two degree and IELTS is somewhere around 9clb and only with one year experience so that would put them somewhere in range of 478. It reduces more if they are married in that case scores goes down by 8-10 points more because again having a spouse who has masters and can score 100% in language and also have Canadian experience is dreamworld. Only few can manage that.

So I guess this will answer your question. Most people in pool with Cad edu are in range of 480 or below.

Thank you man,

This is straight to the point! That's exactly what happening to us right now. losing point because you're married or no foreign work experience. Therefore, you need to score all CLB 9 if you want the additional 50 CRS points.

People shouldn't judge a book by its cover..

Thanks,
 

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simplynd2804 said:
Because usually the people with canadian education and experience are people with no prior foreign work experience. and even if you give max points for IELTS it reaches to only 514.

Age = 110,
Master Degree = 135,
2 year Cad Exp = 53,
IELTS = 136,
skill factor = 50
Cad edu = 30

Realistically, that's not possible or hardly 1% can get max points in everything. Active people in pool are mostly with Bachelor or two degree and IELTS is somewhere around 9clb and only with one year experience so that would put them somewhere in range of 478. It reduces more if they are married in that case scores goes down by 8-10 points more because again having a spouse who has masters and can score 100% in language and also have Canadian experience is dreamworld. Only few can manage that.

So I guess this will answer your question. Most people in pool with Cad edu are in range of 480 or below.
Yeah. that makes sense. Being married is a big factor too as it brings your score down. I would love to see some data and info-graphics around all this, but of course they cannot reveal these as its extremely private information.

Best to apply being a twenty something single post grad working a nice job.
 

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omar_ahmed21 said:
Thank you man,

This is straight to the point! That's exactly what happening to us right now. losing point because you're married or no foreign work experience. Therefore, you need to score all CLB 9 if you want the additional 50 CRS points.

People shouldn't judge a book by its cover..

Thanks,
Sorry, i wasn't trying to insinuate anything, was just curious and had not thought of the factors mentioned by simplynd
 

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omar_ahmed21 said:
Thank you man,

This is straight to the point! That's exactly what happening to us right now. losing point because you're married or no foreign work experience. Therefore, you need to score all CLB 9 if you want the additional 50 CRS points.

People shouldn't judge a book by its cover..

Thanks,
yep, you are right, age + marital status cut lots of points
 

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Only if your spouse is uneducated.
Spouse has maximum of 40 points and for that she needs to have master degree, CLB 9 in all and some Canadian experience, so it is almost impossible to get all 40 points
 

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simplynd2804 said:
Because usually the people with canadian education and experience are people with no prior foreign work experience. and even if you give max points for IELTS it reaches to only 514.

Age = 110,
Master Degree = 135,
2 year Cad Exp = 53,
IELTS = 136,
skill factor = 50
Cad edu = 30

Realistically, that's not possible or hardly 1% can get max points in everything. Active people in pool are mostly with Bachelor or two degree and IELTS is somewhere around 9clb and only with one year experience so that would put them somewhere in range of 478. It reduces more if they are married in that case scores goes down by 8-10 points more because again having a spouse who has masters and can score 100% in language and also have Canadian experience is dreamworld. Only few can manage that.

So I guess this will answer your question. Most people in pool with Cad edu are in range of 480 or below.
Thank you!

I have one Bachelor degree and maxed out on all other areas except language.
I did CELPIP with Listening (12), Reading (11), Speaking (10), but only [8] in writing - therefore not max'd in language but will re-take if don't land an ITA by end of February (test result expired by then).

I honestly think my test score is fair considering it takes a foreigner 10 years to achieve native level in writing...
C'mon don't be too harsh on us ;D ;D
 

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av said:
Spouse has maximum of 40 points and for that she needs to have master degree, CLB 9 in all and some Canadian experience, so it is almost impossible to get all 40 points
Even so... my wife has a bachelors degree and CLB7 my scores is about 5 points higher with her than without!

Spouses are worth 40 points but it's not difficult for them to get around 25 of those 40 (even without Canadian Exp.) which means they generally add to your points and don't drag you down....