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Ray of Hope - 141st Draw

jrossi

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Really like the positive attitude! :D The part about building a network intrigues me, cause that seems quite hard to do when you move somewhere and don't know a single person. But I'll certainly try my best. Maybe careers fairs are a good place to start. Or local programs from the government.
Volunteer work, a book club, people from your church, the guys with whom you're playing basketball/hockey in the weekends, some colleagues from your english classes (if you enrol yourself in one of these governmental courses), etc. Maybe even colleagues from your survival job at 7-Eleven... his/hers spouse might know someone who needs your abilities.
There are many many ways to build a network, it's just a matter of not being afraid to get involved in the community, to speak out and make sure you're been noticed.
 
 

jrossi

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Not every draw. I remember sometime ago there was a similar update but draw did not take place. But I hope FSW draw takes place on wed
Yep, but at the same time, we did notice that when IRCC does not update their site, a draw usually doesn't happen, or then happens in a weird way (just like March 18th draw that only got published on March 20th).
So, IRCC returning to its regular maintenance schedules is an indication that things might be going back to its track.
 
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coolgal

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I've been following many friends from my country that immigrated to Canada, and absolutely all of them are in the same boat as yours: all of them have reasonable jobs, with pretty comfortable houses, great cars, travelling to Caribe/Europe once a year, going to the US border from time to time to do some shopping, and so on. Some of these are friends are even in Toronto, or GTA.
All of them have something in common though: a high level of english proficiency. To me, this appears to be the most important asset that any newcomer can have. Have great english skills, build a network (with the help of these english skills), and be an efficient & dedicated employee... you will make it.
The banks give you money for houses and cars. They know you’re locked for 30yrs with a mortgage and will do whatever you can to pay it or otherwise face foreclosure.

Trips to Europe and the Caribbean are not a big deal..it’s not the best quantifier.

However much one may deny, some races have it easy. Networking depends on race too unless one studied at a big b-school and is in contact with alumni.

Most people won’t want to network, they’ll politely tell you they can’t do much even if they can. Networking is give and take, both parties look for something. Why will a senior executive want to talk to a newcomer ?

Of course with family and friends it’s a different story.

My speaking score is 9. Language is important but race helps more. Now that’s a whole different issue of privilege which I don’t want to get into.

It’s a cultural mosaic not a melting pot.
 
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ZAtoCD

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Volunteer work, a book club, people from your church, the guys with whom you're playing basketball/hockey in the weekends, some colleagues from your english classes (if you enrol yourself in one of these governmental courses), etc. Maybe even colleagues from your survival job at 7-Eleven... his/hers spouse might know someone who needs your abilities.
There are many many ways to build a network, it's just a matter of not being afraid to get involved in the community, to speak out and make sure you're been noticed.
These are all great suggestions. Thank you!
 
 

zagcollins

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The banks give you money for houses and cars. They know you’re locked for 30yrs with a mortgage and will do whatever you can to pay it or otherwise face foreclosure.

Trips to Europe and the Caribbean are not a big deal..it’s not the best quantifier.

However much one may deny, some races have it easy. Networking depends on race too unless one studied at a big b-school and is in contact with alumni.

Most people won’t want to network, they’ll politely tell you they can’t do much even if they can. Networking is give and take, both parties look for something. Why will a senior executive want to talk to a newcomer ?

Of course with family and friends it’s a different story.

My speaking score is 9. Language is important but race helps more. Now that’s a whole different issue of privilege which I don’t want to get into.

It’s a cultural mosaic not a melting pot.
Does white privilege exist? Yup. Does not mean though that browns and blacks are homeless and left jobless on the curbs. Like someone here said, don't flock to Toronto just cuz 222 other people you know are in TOR. Research and make sure that jobs in your line of work are aplenty. Talk to people who've made it. Ignore the 'There are only minimum wage jobs in Canada' people. They aren't going to be helpful in any damn way.
 

coolgal

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Does white privilege exist? Yup. Does not mean though that browns and blacks are homeless and left jobless on the curbs. Like someone here said, don't flock to Toronto just cuz 222 other people you know are in TOR. Research and make sure that jobs in your line of work are aplenty. Talk to people who've made it. Ignore the 'There are only minimum wage jobs in Canada' people. They aren't going to be helpful in any damn way.
You’re saying that second and third place is good enough.

Canada is not a land of opportunity like the US. Anyone who is talented can make it big in the US. That’s simply not the case in Canada and any of the commonwealth countries.

I clearly spoke about cultural mosaic vs the melting pot- please see what it means.
 

zagcollins

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You’re saying that second and third place is good enough.

Canada is not a land of opportunity like the US. Anyone who is talented can make it big in the US. That’s simply not the case in Canada and any of the commonwealth countries.

I clearly spoke about cultural mosaic vs the melting pot- please see what it means.
nope i am not. Take the time to research the non-whites who've made it big. I am not going to provide any website links.

Additionally, if US is the land of opportunity, go there and stay there. Discussing what US offers on a forum dedicated to all things Canada is pointless, no? Did I NOT want to move to the US? Of course I did and at some point I will. But for now, I've accepted what Canada has offered me with an open mind, and frankly I love it compared to what I had back home.
 
 

coolgal

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nope i am not. Take the time to research the non-whites who've made it big. I am not going to provide any website links.

Additionally, if US is the land of opportunity, go there and stay there. Discussing what US offers on a forum dedicated to all things Canada is pointless, no? Did I NOT want to move to the US? Of course I did and at some point I will. But for now, I've accepted what Canada has offered me with an open mind, and frankly I love it compared to what I had back home.
You surely don’t get nuances. The whole point of bringing the US up in this discussion was to debunk your theory that research, networking and talking to people is all it takes..

It takes an economy.

For you to look at two extremes: white privilege on one hand and homelessness/joblessness on the other shows a very one-dimensional way of thinking. What about the stagnant ones in between ?

If Canada has given you what your home country has not, good for you.

You clearly are happy with anything better than what you had earlier.

Don’t lecture me on where to stay..act like a Canadian atleast there.
 

Cookie13

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Surely points will start to drop due to people not being able to graduate from uni, many not being able to gain Canadian work experience right now and the obvious, people not being able to immigrate to Canada currently.

Do we think it will drop below 467 at all?
 

mimimim

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Hello, how can I view the details of my submitted profile? It has been a while since I submitted it and I want to review it to make sure everything is still up to date..when i clicked update form, an empty form is shown (specifically, my work history under the form "Work History"), but I could not view my submitted information.

Thank you.
 
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fasire

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Surely points will start to drop due to people not being able to graduate from uni, many not being able to gain Canadian work experience right now and the obvious, people not being able to immigrate to Canada currently.

Do we think it will drop below 467 at all?
I honestly think after this month, it may.

It all depends how is gonna work tomorrow.

PREDICTION FOR APR 1 DRAW:

ITA’s: 3,900
CRS: 467 - 469
Hoping ! Any specific theory for that? Or just guessing?
 
 

jrossi

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The banks give you money for houses and cars. They know you’re locked for 30yrs with a mortgage and will do whatever you can to pay it or otherwise face foreclosure.

Trips to Europe and the Caribbean are not a big deal..it’s not the best quantifier.

However much one may deny, some races have it easy. Networking depends on race too unless one studied at a big b-school and is in contact with alumni.

Most people won’t want to network, they’ll politely tell you they can’t do much even if they can. Networking is give and take, both parties look for something. Why will a senior executive want to talk to a newcomer ?

Of course with family and friends it’s a different story.

My speaking score is 9. Language is important but race helps more. Now that’s a whole different issue of privilege which I don’t want to get into.

It’s a cultural mosaic not a melting pot.
I do recognize that some groups and/or countries might face an easier time when trying to find a job in Canada. For example, based on a WES research, my country is #2 among the ones with the highest employment rates among newcomers. But, between the top 4 countries in that ranking, 3 of them are from countries where the majority of people could be classified as a "minority" (Philippines, Jamaica and India). So, I can't really comment on that issue. Being a minority (LGBT), I've learned to never doubt about someone's struggles regarding prejudice that they may perceive or suffer.

What I can say is that carrying a mortgage is a burden that pretty much everyone will have to carry. I do it here in Brazil, I'll do it again in Canada. But, when you compare Canada to other countries, such as US, for me at least it looks likes that Canada is way less likely to prejudice anyone because of their race, at least compared to the US. But, I've never lived there. I mean... over 50% of Canadians are either immigrants or sons of immigrants. It doesn't look like you can't find a better place on earth to be an immigrant. Is it perfect? No. But, is there really a better place to be an immigrant than Canada?
 

zagcollins

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You surely don’t get nuances. The whole point of bringing the US up in this discussion was to debunk your theory that research, networking and talking to people is all it takes..

It takes an economy.

For you to look at two extremes: white privilege on one hand and homelessness/joblessness on the other shows a very one-dimensional way of thinking. What about the stagnant ones in between ?

If Canada has given you what your home country has not, good for you.

You clearly are happy with anything better than what you had earlier.

Don’t lecture me on where to stay..act like a Canadian atleast there.
You surely don’t get nuances. The whole point of bringing the US up in this discussion was to debunk your theory that research, networking and talking to people is all it takes..

It takes an economy.

For you to look at two extremes: white privilege on one hand and homelessness/joblessness on the other shows a very one-dimensional way of thinking. What about the stagnant ones in between ?

If Canada has given you what your home country has not, good for you.

You clearly are happy with anything better than what you had earlier.

Don’t lecture me on where to stay..act like a Canadian atleast there.
not lecturing you at all because you are not the first person (assuming that's what you are and not a bot. Apologies if I am incorrect) I've spoken to on this whole 'US v Canada' debate, and you won't be the last either. Do whatever makes you happy. Cheers!