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Dear am not agree with you .Its matter of 2-3draws .it will come down between 440-445 now almost 7000applications with crs 450+ already selected in last two draws .i might be wrong but the treand can not be changed drastically like 450+ .candidates with 440+ having fair chances. Only matter of 2-3 draws .
And another factor is people opting for iqas and not Wes. Wes is not accepting transcript sent by candidate anymore ,this has increased time to get report . Score will definitely touch 440 again this year.
 

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My documents delivered to the WES almost two weeks ago. Unfortunately, I got the following message:"Note: Due to an unusually high volume of academic credentials sent to WES, there may be a delay in the completion of Educational Credential Assessments (ECA) for IRCC. We will provide an update when all of your documents have been reviewed and accepted. Please know that we are working diligently to complete your evaluation as quickly as possible.

Thank you for your understanding."

If the normal timeline is 6 weeks. In the above case, it could be +6 weeks :(
 

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My documents delivered to the WES almost two weeks ago. Unfortunately, I got the following message:"Note: Due to an unusually high volume of academic credentials sent to WES, there may be a delay in the completion of Educational Credential Assessments (ECA) for IRCC. We will provide an update when all of your documents have been reviewed and accepted. Please know that we are working diligently to complete your evaluation as quickly as possible.

Thank you for your understanding."

If the normal timeline is 6 weeks. In the above case, it could be +6 weeks :(
It took more than 70 days in my case
 

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Yes, it was like that only! Even I thought that only the masters would be evaluated, but I was surprised when I was asked to submit my Bachelorvs details and send the respective documents additionally in a sealed envelope from my issuing institution. Due to this only, my ECA was delayed as they took a while in responding to WES (more than a month). Whereas my Master's institution responded to WES within 1-2 weeks. The whole process took more than 4 months!

I thought that it was their policy. But you guys are saying, WES don't ask a thing about the Bachelors during the Master's assessment!!
If you fill Bachelors, they will ask, but this doesn't mean we have to necessarily provide. We can write them to not consider it and delete it themselves. Hope it clarifies!
 

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Is it really a high risk if I edit my EE profile after receiving an ITA? I have many expired/withdrawn profiles and I am not sure if CIC is going to revise all these information if they are not matching or accurate with my active profile?

Should I create a new CIC account and then create a new profile within it?
 

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Yes, you made a big mistake by assuming pending draws as 19. The number of pending draws are at least 21

It's very simple Math: 300/365 * 26 = 21.36

People think two draws are done each month. No, 26 draws are expected each year which could be 2 in most months and three in two months.

Changing 19 to 21 will offset the shortfall you incorrectly computed.

Having said that, CRS cut-off can still come down to 440. However, people must stop expecting any change in the intake per draw or the the frequency of draws. They are ON TRACK to meet their target with the current speed.

Our fate rests on the future application flow, not on the changes expected from CIC.

I agree that I made a crude analysis, however, I also kept several issues, like what you raised, in my mind.

Let's assume pending draws are 21. Additionally, how do we know that the decline rate is only 10% and not 119%?
If the decline rate is 18%, they are still short of 7000 ITAs.

Now, let's dig a bit deep.

In the ideal case, expected number of draws = March (20), April (3, 17), May (1, 15, 29), June (12, 26), July (10, 24), August (7, 21), September (4, 18), October (2, 16, 30), November (13, 27), December (11, 25) = 21

Now, removing one draw from 25 December, expecting a 3-week draw in Jan 2020 due to Christmas holidays, makes it 20. This means 3350*20 =67000 (due with the frequency of 3350 ITAs in 20 draws)+ 17850 (already issued ITAs) = 84850 ITAs in 2019.

Keeping in mind that 86023 ITAs were issued to accommodate 71400 candidates in 2017, and 89800 ITAs were issued to accommodate 74900 candidates in 2018, do you think that they are going to issue only 84850 with the targeted intake of 81400 in 2019? I don't believe so.

Again, I, personally, suppose that there must be an increase in the number of ITAs unless there is/are no B2B draw/s.

In 2018 there were 25 draws; 3 in October and 2 each in remaining months. IRCC is very smart in managing the weeks, and this is how they managed two weeks in 2018-
Ist week: March 14, Wednesday (draw after 3 weeks), March 26 (12 days), Monday, and April 11 (16 days).
2nd week: June 13 (3 weeks gap), June 25 (12 days gap), and July 11 (16 days gap).

Furthermore, I didn't see that the candidates with crs score 443 or more were staying in the pool more than 4 draws. Take for example the draw on 15 October 2018 (CRS cut off 440) which was just after 12 days (Monday) to accommodates the candidates with the higher crs scores because previous cut off was 445, 3rd October.

I believe that the candidates who entered the pool with score mid to late 440s should get ITAs in next 4-5 draws. The timing, the first week of Feb 2019, might be bad but it was not in our hands.

Better luck buddies.
Suraj
 
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SeniorStakes

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I agree that I made a crude analysis, however, I also kept several issues, like what you raised, in my mind.

Let's assume pending draws are 21. Additionally, how do we know that the decline rate is only 10% and not 119%?
If the decline rate is 18%, they are still short of 7000 ITAs.

Now, let's dig a bit deep.

In the ideal case, expected number of draws = March (20), April (3, 17), May (1, 15, 29), June (12, 26), July (10, 24), August (7, 21), September (4, 18), October (2, 16, 30), November (13, 27), December (11, 25) = 21

Now, removing one draw from 25 December, expecting a 3-week draw in Jan 2020 due to Christmas holidays, makes it 20. This means 3350*20 =67000 (due with the frequency of 3350 ITAs in 20 draws)+ 17850 (already issued ITAs) = 84850.

Keeping in mind that 86023 ITAs were issued to accommodate 71400 candidates in 2017, and 89800 ITAs were issued to accommodate 74900 candidates in 2018, do you think that they are going to issue only 84850 with the targeted intake of 81400 in 2019? I don't believe so.

Again, I, personally, suppose that there must be an increase in the number of ITAs unless there is/are no B2B draw/s.

In 2018 there were 25 draws; 3 in October and 2 each in remaining months. IRCC is very smart in managing the weeks, and this is how they managed two weeks in 2018-
Ist week: March 14, Wednesday (draw after 3 weeks), March 26 (12 days), Monday, and April 11 (16 days).
2nd week: June 13 (3 weeks gap), June 25 (12 days gap), and July 11 (16 days gap).

Furthermore, I didn't see that the candidates with crs score 443 or more were staying in the pool more than 4 draws. Take for example the draw on 15 October 2018 (CRS cut off 440) which was just after 12 days (Monday) to accommodates the candidates with the higher crs scores because previous cut off was 445, 3rd October.

I believe that the candidates who entered the pool with score mid to late 440s should get ITAs in next 4-5 draws. The timing, the first week of Feb 2019, might be bad but it was not in our hands.

Better luck buddies.
Suraj
Great! Hope we all get through before something unexpected occurs :)
 
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My documents delivered to the WES almost two weeks ago. Unfortunately, I got the following message:"Note: Due to an unusually high volume of academic credentials sent to WES, there may be a delay in the completion of Educational Credential Assessments (ECA) for IRCC. We will provide an update when all of your documents have been reviewed and accepted. Please know that we are working diligently to complete your evaluation as quickly as possible.

Thank you for your understanding."

If the normal timeline is 6 weeks. In the above case, it could be +6 weeks :(
This - "Note: Due to an unusually high volume of academic credentials sent to WES, there may be a delay in the completion of Educational Credential Assessments (ECA) for IRCC. We will provide an update when all of your documents have been reviewed and accepted. Please know that we are working diligently to complete your evaluation as quickly as possible." is NEW

That organization is something else.. During my harrowing experience with WES (which lasted 70+ days), they stooped to a new low every other day..

Guys.. if you not sent documents to WES.. or have money lying around or that stack of money has become an eyesore; go with organizations other than WES for ECA.
 

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Election effects: Certain rules might be changed but I don't think there will be a big change because Canada definitely needs loads of immigrants to sustain its economy.
You believe. Canada needs immigrants in 2013,2014 as well but if you see conservatives reduced number at that time
 

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Eh...I think it's too early to tell. It's not going to be an easy win for Liberals, but it's certainly not impossible.
Ontario won by conservative and BC won by NDP . Liberals lost in Two major provinces
 

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No matter who wins it will take awhile to make any big change in immigration. Plus Canada needs people so I doubt they will reduce they might just make it harder. And ur prediction is a bit off, for a 3 week gap it CRS will be way higher that u put
My prediction was for regular draws with 2 week gap. And I don’t know guys who told you that Canada needs immigrants. That thing was told by liberals. One more thing every country needs skilled workers but country should look for that people first that what conservatives think.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4794296
 

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Hmm.. that's strange.. They aren't supposed to ask that.. Even if they do, we can tell them to evaluate masters and be done with it.. to further answer reason for your case.. names of your degrees and your institutions would be needed..and that's identifying information.. I'd suggest not to share it..

What was the duration of both your degrees?

My friend got his Masters in Engineering verified without Bachelors, but WES is a cheat.. they mislead.. they lie.. or they may have done this out of stupidity..
3 years each..
Well, While filling the form with WES, it was mandatory for me to submit my bachelors' details as well. Moreover, I was also stucked in the reverification process regarding both of my degress, almost for 3 months. Can you imagine how frustrating it was? As a result of this, my ECA report as well as my entry into the pool was delayed!!

I'm at CRS 444!!
 

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If you fill Bachelors, they will ask, but this doesn't mean we have to necessarily provide. We can write them to not consider it and delete it themselves. Hope it clarifies!
I had no other option! If I won't, I was unable to submit my evaluation application.
 
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I just added spouses WES and Ielts details and changed my profile to spouse-accompanying , but my score is not increasing in my profile. I checked on Points calculator and it increases by 3 points.What should I do?
Wait for few hours or create new profile?