PR card transferred to local office for further investigation
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Wow 10 months is a long time. Did you apply without meeting the RO?CIC Hamilton takes around 10-months processing time for PR Renewal investigations........just found this out via MP's office.
Anyone with RO not met that got sent there?
It wasn't me. I'm a citizen for 9+ yrs already
Someone I know in community applied. CIC kept their file in Hamilton until they passed the 730 days. Then they issue letter saying they approve pr card.
But they had some reasons (documentation and proof) for the long stay outside canada and not meeting RO but still applied renewal with xtra docs./reasons
Someone I know in community applied. CIC kept their file in Hamilton until they passed the 730 days. Then they issue letter saying they approve pr card.
But they had some reasons (documentation and proof) for the long stay outside canada and not meeting RO but still applied renewal with xtra docs./reasons
Oh, which year was this? Because I heard they have started to process applications a bit sooner nowIt wasn't me. I'm a citizen for 9+ yrs already
Someone I know in community applied. CIC kept their file in Hamilton until they passed the 730 days. Then they issue letter saying they approve pr card.
But they had some reasons (documentation and proof) for the long stay outside canada and not meeting RO but still applied renewal with xtra docs./reasons
Today I got a message from Montreal local office. It took them 7 month to send the first correspondence asking for this:
A completed Questionnaire: Determination of permanent resident status (IMM 5511);
☒ Clear and legible photocopies of all pages (including blank pages) of all your valid and / or expired passports issued from 2014-08-14 to 2020-03-13, accompanied by an official translation of all entry and exit stamps as well as visas if they are written in a language other than French or English;
☒ Detailed list of your absences from Canada in the last five years (please indicate: from/to, number of days, your location during your absence and the reason for absence);
☒ Entry/exit registry issued by official authorities of your country of citizenship or from a country of residence, past or current;
☒ Federal and provincial notices of assessment;
☒ Employment statements / T4 slips;
☒ Leases, rental receipts and/or property deed;
☐ Proof of studies (school records), any training, volunteer work or other;
☐ Proof of studies (school records) of your children;
☐ Proof of your social activities (volunteering, etc.);
☒ Bank statements and credit statements confirming account details or your personal and/or joint accounts;
☒ Humanitarian and compassionate considerations:
· Any documentary evidence that demonstrates that your personal situation presents compelling humanitarian circumstances that would justify keeping your permanent resident status.
· A description of the extent of hardship that would result from losing your residency status for you, any family member, and the best interests of any child directly affected by the decision (if applicable).
· A description of why you were unable to meet the residency requirement.
Subsection 28(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act describes the residency obligation that permanent residents must comply with. Paragraph 28(2)(a) further describes situations where permanent residents may comply with the residency obligation even though they were not physically present in Canada for at least 730 days in a five-year period, such as when they are:
· employed on a full-time basis by a Canadian business or in the federal public administration or the public service of a province;
· accompanying a permanent resident who is their spouse or common-law partner or, in the case of a child, their parent and who is employed on a full-time basis by a Canadian business or in the federal public administration or the public service of a province;
· accompanying a Canadian citizen who is their spouse or common-law partner or, in the case of a child, their parent.
If you were in one of these situations, please provide supporting documentary evidence
☒ Employment with a Canadian business, or the public service of Canada or of a province:
· proof of incorporation under the laws of Canada or a given province, if applicable (for example, articles of incorporation);
· description and Proof of Canadian Business in Canada: Activities, Services, Customer, Products, Number of Employees, Pay Statements and Status of All Employees;
· financial statements and annual reports of the company;
· description and proof of existence of the Canadian business / branch abroad (location, contact information, number of employees, operations, services, customers, products, activities and transactions);
· T2 and T4 summary forms from the Canada Revenue Agency, and GST returns;
· details of your business / professional relationship and employment with a foreign company other than the Canadian business mentioned above, if applicable;
· copies of foreign assignment contracts or agreements
§ Letter of declaration signed by an authorized officer of all Canadian companies that were your employers / contractors, specifying the position and title of the signatory and including the following information:
- if the business was created under federal and / or provincial law;
- the name and business name of the company;
- the nature of the business, the length of operation in Canada and the number of employees in Canada;
- details of the assignment or contract (duration, salary, weekly hours, pay statements, T4, etc.);
☐ Accompanying a permanent resident or Canadian citizen
The documents listed above that apply to your family member.
Proof that you accompanied the family member in question:
· Proof that you are accompanying a Canadian citizen who is your spouse or common law partner outside of Canada :
- Copy of all passports and travel documents (from Canada and all countries of citizenship) held by your spouse (you must provide a copy of all pages);
- proof of Canadian citizenship for your spouse or common-law partner
- Proof of address / family ties (lease, rental or mortgage documents. Birth certificate of your children (if applicable), marriage certificate, Family Records (Family booklet);
- Proof or employment or study outside of Canada for your spouse or common-law partner.
☒ Any other relevant document.
A completed Questionnaire: Determination of permanent resident status (IMM 5511);
☒ Clear and legible photocopies of all pages (including blank pages) of all your valid and / or expired passports issued from 2014-08-14 to 2020-03-13, accompanied by an official translation of all entry and exit stamps as well as visas if they are written in a language other than French or English;
☒ Detailed list of your absences from Canada in the last five years (please indicate: from/to, number of days, your location during your absence and the reason for absence);
☒ Entry/exit registry issued by official authorities of your country of citizenship or from a country of residence, past or current;
☒ Federal and provincial notices of assessment;
☒ Employment statements / T4 slips;
☒ Leases, rental receipts and/or property deed;
☐ Proof of studies (school records), any training, volunteer work or other;
☐ Proof of studies (school records) of your children;
☐ Proof of your social activities (volunteering, etc.);
☒ Bank statements and credit statements confirming account details or your personal and/or joint accounts;
☒ Humanitarian and compassionate considerations:
· Any documentary evidence that demonstrates that your personal situation presents compelling humanitarian circumstances that would justify keeping your permanent resident status.
· A description of the extent of hardship that would result from losing your residency status for you, any family member, and the best interests of any child directly affected by the decision (if applicable).
· A description of why you were unable to meet the residency requirement.
Subsection 28(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act describes the residency obligation that permanent residents must comply with. Paragraph 28(2)(a) further describes situations where permanent residents may comply with the residency obligation even though they were not physically present in Canada for at least 730 days in a five-year period, such as when they are:
· employed on a full-time basis by a Canadian business or in the federal public administration or the public service of a province;
· accompanying a permanent resident who is their spouse or common-law partner or, in the case of a child, their parent and who is employed on a full-time basis by a Canadian business or in the federal public administration or the public service of a province;
· accompanying a Canadian citizen who is their spouse or common-law partner or, in the case of a child, their parent.
If you were in one of these situations, please provide supporting documentary evidence
☒ Employment with a Canadian business, or the public service of Canada or of a province:
· proof of incorporation under the laws of Canada or a given province, if applicable (for example, articles of incorporation);
· description and Proof of Canadian Business in Canada: Activities, Services, Customer, Products, Number of Employees, Pay Statements and Status of All Employees;
· financial statements and annual reports of the company;
· description and proof of existence of the Canadian business / branch abroad (location, contact information, number of employees, operations, services, customers, products, activities and transactions);
· T2 and T4 summary forms from the Canada Revenue Agency, and GST returns;
· details of your business / professional relationship and employment with a foreign company other than the Canadian business mentioned above, if applicable;
· copies of foreign assignment contracts or agreements
§ Letter of declaration signed by an authorized officer of all Canadian companies that were your employers / contractors, specifying the position and title of the signatory and including the following information:
- if the business was created under federal and / or provincial law;
- the name and business name of the company;
- the nature of the business, the length of operation in Canada and the number of employees in Canada;
- details of the assignment or contract (duration, salary, weekly hours, pay statements, T4, etc.);
☐ Accompanying a permanent resident or Canadian citizen
The documents listed above that apply to your family member.
Proof that you accompanied the family member in question:
· Proof that you are accompanying a Canadian citizen who is your spouse or common law partner outside of Canada :
- Copy of all passports and travel documents (from Canada and all countries of citizenship) held by your spouse (you must provide a copy of all pages);
- proof of Canadian citizenship for your spouse or common-law partner
- Proof of address / family ties (lease, rental or mortgage documents. Birth certificate of your children (if applicable), marriage certificate, Family Records (Family booklet);
- Proof or employment or study outside of Canada for your spouse or common-law partner.
☒ Any other relevant document.
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It seems there is concern about your work abroad.Today I got a message from Montreal local office. It took them 7 month to send the first correspondence asking for this:
A completed Questionnaire: Determination of permanent resident status (IMM 5511);
☒ Clear and legible photocopies of all pages (including blank pages) of all your valid and / or expired passports issued from 2014-08-14 to 2020-03-13, accompanied by an official translation of all entry and exit stamps as well as visas if they are written in a language other than French or English;
☒ Detailed list of your absences from Canada in the last five years (please indicate: from/to, number of days, your location during your absence and the reason for absence);
☒ Entry/exit registry issued by official authorities of your country of citizenship or from a country of residence, past or current;
☒ Federal and provincial notices of assessment;
☒ Employment statements / T4 slips;
☒ Leases, rental receipts and/or property deed;
☐ Proof of studies (school records), any training, volunteer work or other;
☐ Proof of studies (school records) of your children;
☐ Proof of your social activities (volunteering, etc.);
☒ Bank statements and credit statements confirming account details or your personal and/or joint accounts;
☒ Humanitarian and compassionate considerations:
· Any documentary evidence that demonstrates that your personal situation presents compelling humanitarian circumstances that would justify keeping your permanent resident status.
· A description of the extent of hardship that would result from losing your residency status for you, any family member, and the best interests of any child directly affected by the decision (if applicable).
· A description of why you were unable to meet the residency requirement.
Subsection 28(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act describes the residency obligation that permanent residents must comply with. Paragraph 28(2)(a) further describes situations where permanent residents may comply with the residency obligation even though they were not physically present in Canada for at least 730 days in a five-year period, such as when they are:
· employed on a full-time basis by a Canadian business or in the federal public administration or the public service of a province;
· accompanying a permanent resident who is their spouse or common-law partner or, in the case of a child, their parent and who is employed on a full-time basis by a Canadian business or in the federal public administration or the public service of a province;
· accompanying a Canadian citizen who is their spouse or common-law partner or, in the case of a child, their parent.
If you were in one of these situations, please provide supporting documentary evidence
☒ Employment with a Canadian business, or the public service of Canada or of a province:
· proof of incorporation under the laws of Canada or a given province, if applicable (for example, articles of incorporation);
· description and Proof of Canadian Business in Canada: Activities, Services, Customer, Products, Number of Employees, Pay Statements and Status of All Employees;
· financial statements and annual reports of the company;
· description and proof of existence of the Canadian business / branch abroad (location, contact information, number of employees, operations, services, customers, products, activities and transactions);
· T2 and T4 summary forms from the Canada Revenue Agency, and GST returns;
· details of your business / professional relationship and employment with a foreign company other than the Canadian business mentioned above, if applicable;
· copies of foreign assignment contracts or agreements
§ Letter of declaration signed by an authorized officer of all Canadian companies that were your employers / contractors, specifying the position and title of the signatory and including the following information:
- if the business was created under federal and / or provincial law;
- the name and business name of the company;
- the nature of the business, the length of operation in Canada and the number of employees in Canada;
- details of the assignment or contract (duration, salary, weekly hours, pay statements, T4, etc.);
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☐ Accompanying a permanent resident or Canadian citizen
The documents listed above that apply to your family member.
Proof that you accompanied the family member in question:
· Proof that you are accompanying a Canadian citizen who is your spouse or common law partner outside of Canada :
- Copy of all passports and travel documents (from Canada and all countries of citizenship) held by your spouse (you must provide a copy of all pages);
- proof of Canadian citizenship for your spouse or common-law partner
- Proof of address / family ties (lease, rental or mortgage documents. Birth certificate of your children (if applicable), marriage certificate, Family Records (Family booklet);
- Proof or employment or study outside of Canada for your spouse or common-law partner.
☒ Any other relevant document.
This is a residency questionnaire and means that IRCC has concerns about your Residency Obligations. But, the good thing is that there is some movement rather than the file just stocked and not being opened.It seems there is concern about your work abroad.
Can you provide a brief summary of your presence in Canada in the last 5 years?
Regards.
Was reacting to @Nassrat who seems to have been counting days outside Canada working as RO. Even if it is a Canadian company you can’t always count those days.This is a residency questionnaire and means that IRCC has concerns about your Residency Obligations. But, the good thing is that there is some movement rather than the file just stocked and not being opened.
Can you provide a brief summary of your presence in Canada in the last 5 years?
Regards.
Oh sorry I meant to write that in reply to @Nassarat. Well, Nassarat, if you read this kindly tell us your residency summary.Was reacting to @Nassrat who seems to have been counting days outside Canada working as RO. Even if it is a Canadian company you can’t always count those days.
Last November I responded to one of your posts specifically in regards to getting credit toward RO compliance for time abroad in the employ of a Canadian employer. At the time I cautioned:☒ Employment with a Canadian business, or the public service of Canada or of a province:
· proof of incorporation under the laws of Canada or a given province, if applicable (for example, articles of incorporation);
· description and Proof of Canadian Business in Canada: Activities, Services, Customer, Products, Number of Employees, Pay Statements and Status of All Employees;
· financial statements and annual reports of the company;
· description and proof of existence of the Canadian business / branch abroad (location, contact information, number of employees, operations, services, customers, products, activities and transactions);
· T2 and T4 summary forms from the Canada Revenue Agency, and GST returns;
· details of your business / professional relationship and employment with a foreign company other than the Canadian business mentioned above, if applicable;
· copies of foreign assignment contracts or agreements
§ Letter of declaration signed by an authorized officer of all Canadian companies that were your employers / contractors, specifying the position and title of the signatory and including the following information:
- if the business was created under federal and / or provincial law;
- the name and business name of the company;
- the nature of the business, the length of operation in Canada and the number of employees in Canada;
- details of the assignment or contract (duration, salary, weekly hours, pay statements, T4, etc.);
"NOTE: qualifying for this credit is a LOT more tricky, and difficult, than many PRs realize . . . just being employed by a Canadian business or organization is NOT sufficient to get the credit."
In that post I also stated:
Of course the underlying issue may be something other than whether your position abroad is a TEMPORARY assignment or a permanent position (the latter NOT qualifying for the credit). Again, qualifying for this particular credit tends to be very tricky.[your description suggests] a position abroad for a Canadian organization, which would NOT qualify for the working-abroad-for-Canadian-employer credit. In particular, "placement" suggests an indefinite or even permanent position rather than explicitly a TEMPORARY ASSIGNMENT, which is one of the crucial elements necessary to qualify for the working-abroad-for-Canadian-employer credit.
In other discussions I have suggested that anyone who actually needs this credit (been abroad so long as to need the credit) tends to NOT qualify for it. That is overstating it some but not by a lot.
Unless the organization you are employed by has a good deal of experience in this and it has provided you with some guidance and the supporting documentation which will assure getting this credit, you may want the help of a lawyer.
Last fall your postings suggested you were remaining in Canada pending the outcome of the PR card application. If that is the situation and it continues, that may mitigate the risks. I believe I addressed this last fall as well.
There are extensive and in-depth discussions here, in the forum, about the employed-abroad-by-Canadian-employer credit and those discussions may help you focus on what information and documents you should submit in response to this RQ.
The risks loom large if in the meantime you have left Canada, and if you have, that elevates the importance of getting help, professional help, unless you are very confident about qualifying for the employed-abroad credit (which more than a few have gotten rather wrong and have tales of woe to tell about it).