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roghi

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Aug 5, 2019
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Dear Friends,
Sorry for bothering too much.
I have two more questions.
Number one:
To save time, I am trying to prepare all the needed documents before I get an invitation.
Do you recommend me to upload below documents as additional:
1-My Cv+ My husband's Cv
2-My husband's military card which shows he has been exempted
3-My husband has been in UAE more than 6 months as a tourist but UAE does not publish police certificate for tourists. I have an Email from UAE Police mentioning this. Shall I upload it?
4- Settlement Plan
Number two:
In those 6 months, my husband was in fact trying to get residency from UAE which was rejected. Actually, we have doubt what to mention as his activity for this period. The previous time, he added this time to the job experience of his previous work and mentioned that like 2 years instead of 18 months. But this might make an uncertainty that how could he work for Irani Company while he was in UAE for 6 months.
Shall we write the same thing and add an explanation that he was connected to them via the internet.
He has been 3 times to UAE and each time he was 2 months in UAE and 1 month in Iran so totally 6 months in UAE.
 
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Hi all,
I have question about my situation, I came to Canada under SUV program after we got our commitment certificate from one of the designated entities. Because of the courses and program they had we encouraged to use work permit provided for entrepreneurs. I came to Canada with work permit on 24 November 2018.

My permanent residency application has been received by immigration office on 30 April 2018.
The program with designated entity has been finished and we have no commitment to engage in any sort of activities with them.

After all these months I ran into problems with other co-founders and I want to quit from my startup.
I want to know what would happen if I quit my startup provided I haven’t yet received my PPR.
I only received my Pre-Arrival letter on 24 March 2019.

It has been a tough time for me and I really need to quit, the other co-founders are persuading everything to make it official, I don’t know if it is gonna damage my permanent residency application which is still going on!

Please if you have experience or knowledge of the processes, I would appreciate your comment and help.
 
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Diana1313

Star Member
Apr 19, 2019
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Dear Friends,
Sorry for bothering too much.
I have two more questions.
Number one:
To save time, I am trying to prepare all the needed documents before I get an invitation.
Do you recommend me to upload below documents as additional:
1-My Cv+ My husband's Cv
2-My husband's military card which shows he has been exempted
3-My husband has been in UAE more than 6 months as a tourist but UAE does not publish police certificate for tourists. I have an Email from UAE Police mentioning this. Shall I upload it?
4- Settlement Plan
Number two:
In those 6 months, my husband was in fact trying to get residency from UAE which was rejected. Actually, we have doubt what to mention as his activity for this period. The previous time, he added this time to the job experience of his previous work and mentioned that like 2 years instead of 18 months. But this might make an uncertainty that how could he work for Irani Company while he was in UAE for 6 months.
Shall we write the same thing and add an explanation that he was connected to them via the internet.
He has been 3 times to UAE and each time he was 2 months in UAE and 1 month in Iran so totally 6 months in UAE.
Well in regards to additional documents I think every individual has their own mindset. I added our CVs and my husbands military records but they still requested those at the beginning of security.

Regarding your husbands time in the UAE, he wasn’t there 6 consecutive months so no need for UAE PCC. I would put it under work in Iran and explain in LOE that was traveling to and forth UAE in this timeframe
 
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Mr_nobody

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Dec 14, 2018
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Dear Friends,
Sorry for bothering too much.
I have two more questions.
Number one:
To save time, I am trying to prepare all the needed documents before I get an invitation.
Do you recommend me to upload below documents as additional:
1-My Cv+ My husband's Cv
2-My husband's military card which shows he has been exempted
3-My husband has been in UAE more than 6 months as a tourist but UAE does not publish police certificate for tourists. I have an Email from UAE Police mentioning this. Shall I upload it?
4- Settlement Plan
Number two:
In those 6 months, my husband was in fact trying to get residency from UAE which was rejected. Actually, we have doubt what to mention as his activity for this period. The previous time, he added this time to the job experience of his previous work and mentioned that like 2 years instead of 18 months. But this might make an uncertainty that how could he work for Irani Company while he was in UAE for 6 months.
Shall we write the same thing and add an explanation that he was connected to them via the internet.
He has been 3 times to UAE and each time he was 2 months in UAE and 1 month in Iran so totally 6 months in UAE.
Well in regards to additional documents I think every individual has their own mindset. I added our CVs and my husbands military records but they still requested those at the beginning of security.

Regarding your husbands time in the UAE, he wasn’t there 6 consecutive months so no need for UAE PCC. I would put it under work in Iran and explain in LOE that was traveling to and forth UAE in this timeframe
Personally, I don't recommend including any extra document. IF they want, they will ask for it. The extra document may make confusion. I know a lot of Persians sent CV in advance. But, the problem that it has is that it reminds the officer to send the case to SS even if he did not have the intention to send at first place.

About your UAE case, I agree with @Diana1313 . There are multiple things that you need to consider.
1- If your husband was in UAE on and off on visitor visa, then he is not considered as a residence there(?), so he does not need PCC.
2- About UAE rejection, you need to mention it in the form where they ask you to mention any kind of visa refusal that you have. Also, what was the reason behind UAE rejection? Given your history of visa rejection for Canada, they will probably give you a hard time.
3- It is possible for a person to work for an Iranian company and travel to other countries on business trip or for tourism. They don't conflict with each other.
4- So, you are saying that your husband did not work that extra 6 months. Then, in that case, it is a misrepresentation and if found out, there will be some consequences.
5- Canada shares information with many countries, esp. US. There is a big chance that UAE shares info with US as well. So, it is not hard to assume that find out about your husband's attempt to get UAE residency. In that case, mentioning that he was working for a PErsian compnay while being in UAE trying to get residency is contradictory and a red flag.
6- What you should write: Try to be honest. Include all the information correctly and do not have inconsistent or contradictory information. Your case is already filled with red flags. Don't add extra to it unnecessarily. I don't exactly know what you should write, as your case is very very complicated. It is better if you talk to an immigration lawyer.
 

Mr_nobody

Champion Member
Dec 14, 2018
1,351
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Hi all,
I have question about my situation, I came to Canada under SUV program after we got our commitment certificate from one of the designated entities. Because of the courses and program they had we encouraged to use work permit provided for entrepreneurs. I came to Canada with work permit on 24 November 2018.

My permanent residency application has been received by immigration office on 30 April 2018.
The program with designated entity has been finished and we have no commitment to engage in any sort of activities with them.

After all these months I ran into problems with other co-founders and I want to quit from my startup.
I want to know what would happen if I quit my startup provided I haven’t yet received my PPR.
I only received my Pre-Arrival letter on 24 March 2019.

It has been a tough time for me and I really need to quit, the other co-founders are persuading everything to make it official, I don’t know if it is gonna damage my permanent residency application which is still going on!

Please if you have experience or knowledge of the processes, I would appreciate your comment and help.
Hello and welcome to the forum.

Most of the applicants on these forums are from either EE or PNP programs. Unfortunately, not many people are from SUV program. Long time ago, there was another Persian who was trying to get permanent residency as an entrepreneur. This is his profile name @soheilhs. Unfortunately, it has been long time he has not been on this forum and I am not sure if he receives any email or not. But, you can try to contact him. He may have some information for you. If not, your best bet is to contact an immigration lawyer who is familiar with these cases and can help you.

By the way, you can also call them or raise a CSE and ask your question. they may be able to help you.

Sorry if I am not much of help
 

ms-nobody

Star Member
Mar 14, 2019
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Hi all,
I have question about my situation, I came to Canada under SUV program after we got our commitment certificate from one of the designated entities. Because of the courses and program they had we encouraged to use work permit provided for entrepreneurs. I came to Canada with work permit on 24 November 2018.

My permanent residency application has been received by immigration office on 30 April 2018.
The program with designated entity has been finished and we have no commitment to engage in any sort of activities with them.

After all these months I ran into problems with other co-founders and I want to quit from my startup.
I want to know what would happen if I quit my startup provided I haven’t yet received my PPR.
I only received my Pre-Arrival letter on 24 March 2019.

It has been a tough time for me and I really need to quit, the other co-founders are persuading everything to make it official, I don’t know if it is gonna damage my permanent residency application which is still going on!

Please if you have experience or knowledge of the processes, I would appreciate your comment and help.
when your current work permit expiring ? you can stay for sure till end of your work permit and your situation with your co-founder wont affect that. you maybe able to qualified for bridge of open work permit later on, better talk to a lawyer.
 
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Mr_nobody

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when your current work permit expiring ? you can stay for sure till end of your work permit and your situation with your co-founder wont affect that. you maybe able to qualified for bridge of open work permit later on, better talk to a lawyer.
I depends on the type of work permit. I don't if it is a closed work permit that was issued only for the startup? I mean is it closed work permit or not?
If that is the case, the person can't work for any other place unless the person gets a new work permit. @SunnySunnyStart
 
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ms-nobody

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Mar 14, 2019
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I depends on the type of work permit. I don't if it is a closed work permit that was issued only for the startup? I mean is it closed work permit or not?
If that is the case, the person can't work for any other place unless the person gets a new work permit. @SunnySunnyStart
close or open, if it is close and you lose your employment, no one kick you out and you can stay in country for duration of work permit, you cant work for other employer if your work permit is closed and you or new employer should opt for new ones. my point is they can stay in country till PR arrives subject to validity of current work permit, closed or open.
 
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Mr_nobody

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Dec 14, 2018
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close or open, if it is close and you lose your employment, no one kick you out and you can stay in country for duration of work permit, you cant work for other employer if your work permit is closed and you or new employer should opt for new ones. my point is they can stay in country till PR arrives subject to validity of current work permit, closed or open.
Thanks for the info
 
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roghi

Full Member
Aug 5, 2019
20
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Personally, I don't recommend including any extra document. IF they want, they will ask for it. The extra document may make confusion. I know a lot of Persians sent CV in advance. But, the problem that it has is that it reminds the officer to send the case to SS even if he did not have the intention to send at first place.

About your UAE case, I agree with @Diana1313 . There are multiple things that you need to consider.
1- If your husband was in UAE on and off on visitor visa, then he is not considered as a residence there(?), so he does not need PCC.
2- About UAE rejection, you need to mention it in the form where they ask you to mention any kind of visa refusal that you have. Also, what was the reason behind UAE rejection? Given your history of visa rejection for Canada, they will probably give you a hard time.
3- It is possible for a person to work for an Iranian company and travel to other countries on business trip or for tourism. They don't conflict with each other.
4- So, you are saying that your husband did not work that extra 6 months. Then, in that case, it is a misrepresentation and if found out, there will be some consequences.
5- Canada shares information with many countries, esp. US. There is a big chance that UAE shares info with US as well. So, it is not hard to assume that find out about your husband's attempt to get UAE residency. In that case, mentioning that he was working for a PErsian compnay while being in UAE trying to get residency is contradictory and a red flag.
6- What you should write: Try to be honest. Include all the information correctly and do not have inconsistent or contradictory information. Your case is already filled with red flags. Don't add extra to it unnecessarily. I don't exactly know what you should write, as your case is very very complicated. It is better if you talk to an immigration lawyer.
Thanks for your answer but these all made me more worried.
Do you recommend any lawyer or anywhere that I can search for one?
 

roghi

Full Member
Aug 5, 2019
20
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Well in regards to additional documents I think every individual has their own mindset. I added our CVs and my husbands military records but they still requested those at the beginning of security.

Regarding your husbands time in the UAE, he wasn’t there 6 consecutive months so no need for UAE PCC. I would put it under work in Iran and explain in LOE that was traveling to and forth UAE in this timeframe
Thanks Diana,
Now after seeing comments of Mr.Nobody, I am more confused.
 

roghi

Full Member
Aug 5, 2019
20
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Personally, I don't recommend including any extra document. IF they want, they will ask for it. The extra document may make confusion. I know a lot of Persians sent CV in advance. But, the problem that it has is that it reminds the officer to send the case to SS even if he did not have the intention to send at first place.

About your UAE case, I agree with @Diana1313 . There are multiple things that you need to consider.
1- If your husband was in UAE on and off on visitor visa, then he is not considered as a residence there(?), so he does not need PCC.
2- About UAE rejection, you need to mention it in the form where they ask you to mention any kind of visa refusal that you have. Also, what was the reason behind UAE rejection? Given your history of visa rejection for Canada, they will probably give you a hard time.
3- It is possible for a person to work for an Iranian company and travel to other countries on business trip or for tourism. They don't conflict with each other.
4- So, you are saying that your husband did not work that extra 6 months. Then, in that case, it is a misrepresentation and if found out, there will be some consequences.
5- Canada shares information with many countries, esp. US. There is a big chance that UAE shares info with US as well. So, it is not hard to assume that find out about your husband's attempt to get UAE residency. In that case, mentioning that he was working for a PErsian compnay while being in UAE trying to get residency is contradictory and a red flag.
6- What you should write: Try to be honest. Include all the information correctly and do not have inconsistent or contradictory information. Your case is already filled with red flags. Don't add extra to it unnecessarily. I don't exactly know what you should write, as your case is very very complicated. It is better if you talk to an immigration lawyer.
Do you have any idea if they will compare our answers in this express entry with the previous one?
 

Mr_nobody

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Dec 14, 2018
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Thanks Diana,
Now after seeing comments of Mr.Nobody, I am more confused.
Thanks for your answer but these all made me more worried.
Do you recommend any lawyer or anywhere that I can search for one?
Sorry if I made you worried, but I just wanted to warn you about the situation. I think that if you know, you can plan better.
I personally don't know a lawyer, but I recommend to hire a lawyer who is in Canada. Do not follow people in Iran or Turkey... who call themselves immigration lawyer. You can take a look at this link. It may give you some idea about how to know if a lawyer is legit or not.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigration-citizenship-representative/choose/authorized.html

Do you have any idea if they will compare our answers in this express entry with the previous one?
It is very much possible. All the information that you send to CIC gets recorded in a system called GCMS.
 
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ms-nobody

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Do you have any idea if they will compare our answers in this express entry with the previous one?[/QUOT
Sorry if I made you worried, but I just wanted to warn you about the situation. I think that if you know, you can plan better.
I personally don't know a lawyer, but I recommend to hire a lawyer who is in Canada. Do not follow people in Iran or Turkey... who call themselves immigration lawyer. You can take a look at this link. It may give you some idea about how to know if a lawyer is legit or not.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigration-citizenship-representative/choose/authorized.html


It is very much possible. All the information that you send to CIC gets recorded in a system called GCMS.[/QUOTE
Sorry if I made you worried, but I just wanted to warn you about the situation. I think that if you know, you can plan better.
I personally don't know a lawyer, but I recommend to hire a lawyer who is in Canada. Do not follow people in Iran or Turkey... who call themselves immigration lawyer. You can take a look at this link. It may give you some idea about how to know if a lawyer is legit or not.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigration-citizenship-representative/choose/authorized.html


It is very much possible. All the information that you send to CIC gets recorded in a system called GCMS.
as Mr_nobody shared, the info will be compared and the evidence of it shows in GSMS notes, i am not sure on everything but it seems they look for inconsistency over certain fields.
 
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ms-nobody

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as Mr_nobody shared, the info will be compared and the evidence of it shows in GSMS notes, i am not sure on everything but it seems they look for inconsistency over certain fields.
 
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