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lightsinthemist

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JonnyU

AlbertaGovernor is not assuming anything .I hope you have been following the very latest and recent news about AINP nominees being denied entry at other provinces when they cannot sufficiently prove that intend to settle in Alberta. There will always be outlier cases in Immigration where it is possible somebody gets in even if landing in other province depending on discretion of the border official.

However for the benefit of others AG is giving cautionary advice not to tempt fate and land in the province which sent the nomination if possible.

Lightsinthemist

jonnyU said:
Listen pal, the sceneario you wrote is purely your assumption. There is nothing like that you'll find on cic page or PN page. Now about my friends, one is from Baltimore MD and another from Saltlake UT. The one from UT flew to Baltimore and they both made a drive to Toronto. And yes they both were selected via AINP.
 

surenderJeet

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Nov 24, 2010
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Guys why take risk to land from other nominated province. Safe side is to land from Alberta.

lightsinthemist said:
JonnyU

AlbertaGovernor is not assuming anything .I hope you have been following the very latest and recent news about AINP nominees being denied entry at other provinces when they cannot sufficiently prove that intend to settle in Alberta. There will always be outlier cases in Immigration where it is possible somebody gets in even if landing in other province depending on discretion of the border official.

However for the benefit of others AG is giving cautionary advice not to tempt fate and land in the province which sent the nomination if possible.

Lightsinthemist
 

brownredxx

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May 26, 2010
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When you say land directly to Alberta. how could you possibly do that? if there's no direct flight going there. You always have connecting flight coming from major cities like Toronto or Vancouver.
 

surenderJeet

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From US you can get direct flight.

brownredxx said:
When you say land directly to Alberta. how could you possibly do that? if there's no direct flight going there. You always have connecting flight coming from major cities like Toronto or Vancouver.
 

Ell.Bee

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Buffalo
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb - 2009
Doc's Request.
Nov - 2009
Nomination.....
Dec - 2009 CIC App. Filed..: May 2010
AOR Received.
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IELTS Request
N/A
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08-23-2010
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03-01-2011
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03-17-2011
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04-06-2011
brownredxx said:
When you say land directly to Alberta. how could you possibly do that? if there's no direct flight going there. You always have connecting flight coming from major cities like Toronto or Vancouver.
Hi,

There are direct flights to Alberta from Chicago, San Franciso, Seattle, Pheonix, Minneapolis, Las Vegas, Houston, Detriot, Denver, Salt Lake City...etc.

Thanks,
L.B
 

rubyalabar

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21-02-2010
AOR Received.
23-06-2010
IELTS Request
waived
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26-10-2010
Med's Request
23-06-2010
Med's Done....
26-07-2010 (Aug.6 rec'vd by Ottawa)
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
16-12-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-01-2011
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04-02-2011
most of the people in this thread are in the US, so I guess there are direct flights to Alberta.

how about those who are back in their home country, where there are no direct flights to Alberta, usually it's either Vancouver or Toronto. how can they prove that they intend to settle in Alberta? through the address given for the PR card? you guys have any idea how CIC will track if provincial nominees settled in the nominating province?
 

jonnyU

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Jun 16, 2010
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lightsinthemist said:
JonnyU

AlbertaGovernor is not assuming anything .I hope you have been following the very latest and recent news about AINP nominees being denied entry at other provinces when they cannot sufficiently prove that intend to settle in Alberta. There will always be outlier cases in Immigration where it is possible somebody gets in even if landing in other province depending on discretion of the border official.

However for the benefit of others AG is giving cautionary advice not to tempt fate and land in the province which sent the nomination if possible.

Lightsinthemist
Dude, you might not have read my previou post. I know the news about PN (not just AINP) being denied entry and it has nothing to do with where you do your landing. What is important is you should have enough eveidence of you intention to reside in the same province that nominates you. Landing in the same providence itself might not be sufficent for that reason.
 

Ell.Bee

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Pre-Assessed..
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Dec - 2009 CIC App. Filed..: May 2010
AOR Received.
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N/A
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08-23-2010
Med's Done....
09-09-2010
Interview........
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03-01-2011
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03-17-2011
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04-06-2011
rubyalabar said:
most of the people in this thread are in the US, so I guess there are direct flights to Alberta.

how about those who are back in their home country, where there are no direct flights to Alberta, usually it's either Vancouver or Toronto. how can they prove that they intend to settle in Alberta? through the address given for the PR card? you guys have any idea how CIC will track if provincial nominees settled in the nominating province?
Hi,

There are transatlantic flights that I know of coming into Alberta directly from Frankfurt & UK. There might be other flights too.

Otherwise one can provide details of connecting flight destined to Alberta. It is obvious that the person who is landing in Canada from outside the continent is not going to land and go back. In that case if the person will have any intention of residing in Alberta, the person has to have onward travel plans from port of entry.

Thanks,
L.B
 

kv_ajay

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Feb 7, 2009
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For the people coming from international destinations (beside USA), If you have connecting flight to alberta from the place you land there should not be a doubt. Just show your next ticket and tell officer that you are going to Alberta. You have to complete the process here since that was the first stop in Canada.


Ell.Bee said:
Hi,

There are transatlantic flights that I know of coming into Alberta directly from Frankfurt & UK. There might be other flights too.

Otherwise one can provide details of connecting flight destined to Alberta. It is obvious that the person who is landing in Canada from outside the continent is not going to land and go back. In that case if the person will have any intention of residing in Alberta, the person has to have onward travel plans from port of entry.

Thanks,
L.B
 

brownredxx

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May 26, 2010
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So you just show your ticket then you're good to go, wherever you want, is that right? I dunno,I think they're smarter than that. I think we're missing a point here, I believe they will just let you sign something that will go back to you when you go and apply for citizenship. Wouldn't that be more practical and convenient?
 

Ell.Bee

Hero Member
Jan 18, 2009
508
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Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb - 2009
Doc's Request.
Nov - 2009
Nomination.....
Dec - 2009 CIC App. Filed..: May 2010
AOR Received.
08-23-2010
IELTS Request
N/A
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Request
08-23-2010
Med's Done....
09-09-2010
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
03-01-2011
VISA ISSUED...
03-17-2011
LANDED..........
04-06-2011
brownredxx said:
So you just show your ticket then you're good to go, wherever you want, is that right? I dunno,I think they're smarter than that. I think we're missing a point here, I believe they will just let you sign something that will go back to you when you go and apply for citizenship. Wouldn't that be more practical and convenient?
Hi,

Sure they are smarter. Everyone learns their lesson by lesson. Now that the bulletin is published for the border posts, next they will publish something to PR card and SIN card offices to check for the address where its being posted etc etc... This is just my opinion and I have not read it anywhere or heard of it.

Thanks,
L.B
 

rubyalabar

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Interview........
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16-12-2010
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05-01-2011
LANDED..........
04-02-2011
i think someone in this thread was asked by NY consulate for a sworn statement of his intent to settle in Alberta. Maybe that document is what they will refer to when one renews the PR card or applies for citizenship... a BIG MAYBE (disclaimer :D)
 

brownredxx

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May 26, 2010
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Hi L.B,

Yeah they're smarter alright to the point of making us look stupid. lol. They keep on bending the rules for their convenience, gotta hate that. Well, we'll just have to keep up with them. There's always a loophole to these dumb rules. I truly believe we'll all get that PR. Goodluck to all!!!
 

jonnyU

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Jun 16, 2010
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I think many of you are missing the main point here. The main thing for any PN nominee is to show the BSO(Border service officer) enough evdience about your intention to reside in the province that nominated you. For AINP nominee having Alberta address or knowing some one at Alberta is more useful than landing at Alberta itself. Sure if Alberta is easy or you live near Alberta than it is better to land via Alberta but direct flight to Alberta and other are total nonesense. Below paragraph is directly from cic page about PN landing and it is all about having intention to live rather than landing. I have also posted the link.

Examination of Members of the Provincial Nominee Class at Ports of Entry and CIC Inland Offices
Issue
This operational bulletin (OB) provides instructions regarding the examination of individuals in the Provincial Nominee (PN) class seeking permanent resident status who indicate that they never intended or no longer intend to reside in the nominating province or territory.
This OB is being published in conjunction with a Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) memorandum to Border Services Officers (BSOs).

Background
Paragraph 87(2)(b) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) states that a foreign national is a member of the PN class if they intend to reside in the province that has nominated them.

A permanent resident visa holder in the PN class seeking permanent resident status at a Port of Entry (POE) must therefore establish that they still intend to reside in the province/territory that has nominated them.

Overview of instructions to BSOs
Individuals who indicate that they intend to proceed to and reside in the province/territory of nomination, and who meet the other requirements of the legislation, should be processed for permanent resident status.

Individuals who indicate that they never intended, or no longer intend, to reside in the nominating province/territory may be denied permanent resident status at the POE and may have an A44(1) report written against them.

In the case of individuals who indicate at the POE that they no longer intend to reside in the nominating province/territory, the A44(1) report may be written for non-compliance with paragraph 87(2)(b) of the IRPR pursuant to section 41 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA).

An additional allegation of misrepresentation, pursuant to paragraph 40(1)(a) of the IRPA for R87(2)(b), may be included in the A44(1) report for those individuals who indicate that they never intended to reside in the nominating province/territory, if supported by the information obtained through examination at the POE.

BSOs may also choose to exercise the following options if they are not satisfied with respect to an individual’s intention to reside in the nominating province/territory:

•Offer the individual the option of voluntarily withdrawing their application for permanent residence. If this option is accepted by the applicant, the BSO should seize the Confirmation of Permanent Residence (CPR) document and inform the issuing visa office and the appropriate CIC inland office in the province/territory of nomination.
•If the applicant does not exercise the option to voluntarily withdraw their application for permanent residence, the BSO may adjourn the examination and, pursuant to section 23 of the IRPA, authorize the person to enter Canada for the purpose of further examination. As authorized under Item 102 of the CBSA Delegations and Designations [PDF format], the examination should be referred for finalization to the appropriate CIC inland office in the nominating province/territory. The BSO should seize the applicant’s CPR document and forward it to the appropriate CIC inland office along with relevant case information (e.g., Statutory Declaration from the individual stating that they do not intend to reside in the province/territory of nomination, officer’s interview notes). The CPR documents of accompanying family members should also be seized and forwarded to the appropriate CIC inland office.
Note: If the applicant states that a representative advised them that residence in the province/territory of nomination is not a requirement of the PN class, the BSO should inform the appropriate CIC inland office in the province/territory of nomination and record a non-computer based entry in FOSS with information concerning the representative.

Overview of instructions to CIC inland offices
In cases where a BSO adjourns the examination of individuals in the PN class to a CIC inland office for finalization, the CIC inland office should contact the responsible provincial/territorial authorities and provide relevant case information, including the name, date of birth and nomination certificate number of the principal applicant and their accompanying family members, if available. Timely notificiation of provincial/territorial authorities will afford them the opportunity to make contact with the applicant between the time of the POE referral and the CIC inland office examination, should they wish to do so.

Should the nominating province/territory elect to withdraw their nomination certificate before the CIC examination, the CIC inland office should inform the applicant that their application for permanent residence is refused, and an A44(1) report should be prepared alleging non-compliance pursuant to section 41 of the IRPA in that the applicant is not named in a nomination certificate issued by the government of a province/territory as required by paragraph 87(2)(a) of the IRPR.

If the nominating province/territory has maintained their nomination certificate and, upon examination, the CIC officer is satisfied with respect to the applicant’s intent to reside in the nominating province/territory as required by paragraph 87(2)(b) of the IRPR, the applicant should be processed for permanent resident status.

Should the nominating province/territory maintain their nomination certificate and, upon examination, the CIC officer is not satisfied with respect to the applicant’s intent to reside in the nominating province/territory as required by paragraph 87(2)(b) of the IRPR, the officer may choose to write an A44(1) report.

In the case of individuals who indicate upon examination at the CIC inland office that they no longer intend to reside in the nominating province/territory, the A44(1) report may be written for non-compliance with paragraph 87(2)(b) of the IRPR pursuant to section 41 of the IRPA.

An additional allegation of misrepresentation, pursuant to paragraph 40(1)(a) of the IRPA for R87(2)(b), may be included in the A44(1) report for those individuals who indicate that they never intended to reside in the nominating province/territory, if supported by the information obtained through examination at the CIC inland office.

Officers should communicate CIC’s final decision in accordance with the terms of the applicable Federal-Provincial/Territorial Agreement with respect to Provincial Nominees.

For further information or questions regarding the guidance outlined in this OB, please contact your supervisor or your Regional Program Advisor (RPA). RPAs may in turn contact Operational Management and Coordination Branch.
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http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2010/ob251.asp
 

Ell.Bee

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Buffalo
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Dec - 2009 CIC App. Filed..: May 2010
AOR Received.
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04-06-2011
jonnyU said:
I think many of you are missing the main point here. The main thing for any PN nominee is to show the BSO(Border service officer) enough evdience about your intention to reside in the province that nominated you. For AINP nominee having Alberta address or knowing some one at Alberta is more useful than landing at Alberta itself. Sure if Alberta is easy or you live near Alberta than it is better to land via Alberta but direct flight to Alberta and other are total nonesense. Below paragraph is directly from cic page about PN landing and it is all about having intention to live rather than landing. I have also posted the link.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2010/ob251.asp
Hi Jonny,


Everyone on this forum had enough long wait with the AINP and CIC process. The last anyone one wants is a denied entry and waiting again for re-entry. Yes it is aboslutely possible to land in a province other than the one that has nominated you. But why take the risk if there is a option to land in same province ?
Any sensible person would take the option where there is no risk while you are advocating landing in any province is fine.

Thanks,
L.B