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NickolayG

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Oct 14, 2020
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My application has been approved today! COPR document IDs are in profile. I think we will get our access to portal for submitting photos for PR cards soon.

I've been following this thread from my AOR date (October 14, 2020), so want to say thank you everyone who shared their info here.

Here it is some details about my process flow:
CEC Inland + 2 Inland dependents
Place of living: Toronto
AOR: October 14, 2020
MEP: November 26, 2020
BIO: exempt. IRCC took my previous BIO taken in 2019
GU1: January 26, 2021 (according to my profile, Background check was completed this day)
GU2: February 1, 2021
Requested GCMS notes: February 3, 2021 (they haven't arrived yet :D)
Question about landing from Etobicoke VO: February 25, 2021
COPR: February 26, 2021

I never called to IRCC, so don't know when other stages were passed. Wish everyone final approval soon. All the best!
 

jaspersun0106

Hero Member
Jul 13, 2019
665
406
My application has been approved today! COPR document IDs are in profile. I think we will get our access to portal for submitting photos for PR cards soon.

I've been following this thread from my AOR date (October 14, 2020), so want to say thank you everyone who shared their info here.

Here it is some details about my process flow:
CEC Inland + 2 Inland dependents
Place of living: Toronto
AOR: October 14, 2020
MEP: November 26, 2020
BIO: exempt. IRCC took my previous BIO taken in 2019
GU1: January 26, 2021 (according to my profile, Background check was completed this day)
GU2: February 1, 2021
Requested GCMS notes: February 3, 2021 (they haven't arrived yet :D)
Question about landing from Etobicoke VO: February 25, 2021
COPR: February 26, 2021

I never called to IRCC, so don't know when other stages were passed. Wish everyone final approval soon. All the best!
Congrats!!!!!!!!! GOOD LUCK TO YOUR FUTURE.
 
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Kerikeri

Hero Member
Nov 29, 2020
422
196
My application has been approved today! COPR document IDs are in profile. I think we will get our access to portal for submitting photos for PR cards soon.

I've been following this thread from my AOR date (October 14, 2020), so want to say thank you everyone who shared their info here.

Here it is some details about my process flow:
CEC Inland + 2 Inland dependents
Place of living: Toronto
AOR: October 14, 2020
MEP: November 26, 2020
BIO: exempt. IRCC took my previous BIO taken in 2019
GU1: January 26, 2021 (according to my profile, Background check was completed this day)
GU2: February 1, 2021
Requested GCMS notes: February 3, 2021 (they haven't arrived yet :D)
Question about landing from Etobicoke VO: February 25, 2021
COPR: February 26, 2021

I never called to IRCC, so don't know when other stages were passed. Wish everyone final approval soon. All the best!
Congrats
 
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Rinku-Ind

Member
Jan 24, 2021
19
15
Montreal
Category........
CEC
Hi folks,

I submitted a webform on 15th Feb and still no updates or notifications.

how long does it take IRCC to process a webform ?

I am thinking to order GCMS notes from CBSA.
how to order gcms notes from CBSA?

CEC inland
AOR - Oct 12
MED - Nov 23
BIO - Dec 1
Just criminality is in progress since then.
I believe, guys will be able to make a guess about VO (Ottawa ).
 

caipsnotes

Champion Member
Jan 10, 2020
2,493
1,059
Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Buffalo, NY
Hi folks,

I submitted a webform on 15th Feb and still no updates or notifications.

how long does it take IRCC to process a webform ?

I am thinking to order GCMS notes from CBSA.
how to order gcms notes from CBSA?

CEC inland
AOR - Oct 12
MED - Nov 23
BIO - Dec 1
Just criminality is in progress since then.
I believe, guys will be able to make a guess about VO (Ottawa ).
Web form responses are taking a while these days

For GCMS see https://help.gcmsnotes.com/how-to-order/for-free
Same as you would request from IRCC, just select CBSA as the govt agency.
 

Baban0074

Full Member
Feb 2, 2021
48
3
@legalfalcon
If company amalgamation to change new name and business number,
But we already have approved LMIA and PR applied, do we need to get new lmia or just informing cic and service canada is enough?
 

Ufuoma

Hero Member
Jun 1, 2013
300
1,736
Saskatoon
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
1221
Nomination.....
25-08-2020
AOR Received.
14-10-2020
Med's Done....
14-10-2020
Passport Req..
21-03-2022
LANDED..........
29-05-2022
My application has been approved today! COPR document IDs are in profile. I think we will get our access to portal for submitting photos for PR cards soon.

I've been following this thread from my AOR date (October 14, 2020), so want to say thank you everyone who shared their info here.

Here it is some details about my process flow:
CEC Inland + 2 Inland dependents
Place of living: Toronto
AOR: October 14, 2020
MEP: November 26, 2020
BIO: exempt. IRCC took my previous BIO taken in 2019
GU1: January 26, 2021 (according to my profile, Background check was completed this day)
GU2: February 1, 2021
Requested GCMS notes: February 3, 2021 (they haven't arrived yet :D)
Question about landing from Etobicoke VO: February 25, 2021
COPR: February 26, 2021

I never called to IRCC, so don't know when other stages were passed. Wish everyone final approval soon. All the best!
Congratulations .

We share the same AOR but I'm PNP Outland.
 
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swapanathorat

Hero Member
Apr 5, 2019
279
37
42
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
Ottawa
AOR Received.
9 Oct 2020
Med's Request
07-09-2021
Med's Done....
20-0-1981
My application has been approved today! COPR document IDs are in profile. I think we will get our access to portal for submitting photos for PR cards soon.

I've been following this thread from my AOR date (October 14, 2020), so want to say thank you everyone who shared their info here.

Here it is some details about my process flow:
CEC Inland + 2 Inland dependents
Place of living: Toronto
AOR: October 14, 2020
MEP: November 26, 2020
BIO: exempt. IRCC took my previous BIO taken in 2019
GU1: January 26, 2021 (according to my profile, Background check was completed this day)
GU2: February 1, 2021
Requested GCMS notes: February 3, 2021 (they haven't arrived yet :D)
Question about landing from Etobicoke VO: February 25, 2021
COPR: February 26, 2021

I never called to IRCC, so don't know when other stages were passed. Wish everyone final approval soon. All the best!
Congratulation.
Sorry but if you can Ans below questions?
1. was on 26 Jan GC key account showed background completed?
2. Which is your home country?

TIA.
 
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leobeni

Star Member
Dec 19, 2019
181
120
I'm unable to upload pics here ...
I'm giving the URL to image uploaded to imgur.. but its saying ... "Something went wrong .. Contact Administrator"

Any suggestions?
 

leobeni

Star Member
Dec 19, 2019
181
120
Hi @legalfalcon

I rec'd GCMS notes yesterday ordered from CBSA a month ago via GETGCMS. Request you to review & guide on the next steps!

=====GCMS Notes Extract ======
ASSESSMENTS
  • Eligibility: Review Required
  • Security: Not Started
  • Criminality: In Progress
  • Medical: Passed
  • Info Sharing: In Progress

NOTES: 1
REVIEW TYPE:
A11.2 CASE PROCESSING AGENT APPLICATION: ZZZZZZ REGULATION: PNP: FSW… RECOMMENDATION: ***Review REQUIRED by Officer***
***Please Review RE Lead statement and duties edoc ZZZZZZ
*** Please Review information regarding refusal in notes
A11.2 REVIEW REQUIRED
R87: REVIEW REQUIRED
R75: REVIEW REQUIRED
R76: Selection Criteria – FSW POINTS: REVIEW REQUIRED

EDUCATION CREDENTIAL(S) PROVIDED Master’s Degree, COMPUTER APPLICATIONS R75(2)(A) PRIMARY OCCUPATION: 2171 Information Systems Analysts and Consultants WORK EXPERIENCE 1: ZZZZZ (NOC:2171) for ZZZZZZZZZZZ R75(2) LETTER OF EMPLOYMENT (eDoc# ZZZZ) REVIEW REQUIRED
FSW POINTS: REVIEW REQUIRED
FSW score at ITA: 73 / Min required FSW Score: 67 Total FSW Points Assessed: 53

NOTES: 2
REVIEW TYPE:
Program Assistant APPLICATION# ZZZZZZZZZ …
---- POLICE CERTIFICATE ----
Primary Applicant 1 – USA FBI police certificate: Provided-NRT 2 – India police certificate: Provided-NRT R10 OK Recommendation: Review Required – Statutory Questions
===========================

Background:
  • Category: FSW-O PNP
  • NOC: 2171
  • Expr: 15+ yrs in same IT company (Deputation: US-6yrs, UK-1yr)
  • PNP: SINP nominated (July'20)
Employment Documents:
  • Reference Letter: Got Notarized Reference Letter from colleague as company doesn't issue Reference letter to current employees
  • Additional docs: ID, Offer / Joining / Promotion / Annual Compensation letters, Payslips, Bank statements showing Salary deposits, Tax Returns (India, US, UK), Work Permits (US/UK), Retirement Funds (EPF, Superannuation, 401K), Award Certificates, Appreciations from Client, Sample emails showing communication related to projects with Customers
US Student Visa: Refusal in year 2003 (declared as part of Statutory question)

Question 1: Even after providing so much documentation for current Employment (15+ yrs) and having got nominated by SINP, why still Review Required on Eligibility? I think, I have provided exhaustive documentation to support the Employment claim.

Question 2: Statutory Question: Review Required
After having refused Student Visa in yr 2003, I was granted Employment Visa by USA and worked on deputation for over 6 years. Anything to worry about the Review Required here?

Question 3: FSW score at ITA 73 and FSW Points Assessed: 53. What's causing the assessed points to be at 53?

Appreciate if you can review the GCMS notes and guide on next steps that I should take to satisfy the Officer reviewing the application.

Thank you!
 
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NickolayG

Full Member
Oct 14, 2020
39
78
Congratulation.
Sorry but if you can Ans below questions?
1. was on 26 Jan GC key account showed background completed?
2. Which is your home country?

TIA.
Thank you!
1. No, it wasn't. Background check has been "We are processing your background check. We will send you a message if we need more information." since AOR and never changed. Yesterday, when application was approved, it was transformed to "January 26, 2021 Your background check was completed.".
2. Ukraine.
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,896
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon

Please I got an extension of 90 days to receive my CBSA notes, is this normal? 90days is a lot of time waiting. pls advise
For CBSA, this is rare, but does happen. A federal agency can seek extensions.

See
7.3 Section 9 of the Act – Extension of time limits
The 30-day time limit set in section 7 of the Access to InformationAct and the 15-day time limit set in subsection 8(1) of the Access to InformationAct are subject to section 9 of the Access to InformationAct. In particular, subsection 9(1) of the Access to InformationAct allows the head of a government institution to extend the initial period under the following three circumstances:

  • the request is for a large number of records or requires a search through a large number of records and meeting the original time limit, under either of these circumstances, would interfere unreasonably with the institution’s operations;
  • consultation is necessary and it cannot be completed within the 30-day statutory deadline;
  • notice is given to a third party under subsection 27(1) of the Access to InformationAct.
This discretionary power is not subordinate to the mandatory duty to assist a requester. Consequently, the institution is not required to consult or obtain the requester’s consent when deciding whether or not to extend the statutory deadline. The institution is required to examine the circumstances and context of each request.

More than one extension may be taken, provided each extension is taken within the initial 30-day period.

https://www.canada.ca/en/treasury-board-secretariat/services/access-information-privacy/access-information/access-information-manual.html#cha7_3
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,896
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon

I rec'd GCMS notes yesterday ordered from CBSA a month ago via GETGCMS. Request you to review & guide on the next steps!

=====GCMS Notes Extract ======
ASSESSMENTS
  • Eligibility: Review Required
  • Security: Not Started
  • Criminality: In Progress
  • Medical: Passed
  • Info Sharing: In Progress

NOTES: 1
REVIEW TYPE:
A11.2 CASE PROCESSING AGENT APPLICATION: ZZZZZZ REGULATION: PNP: FSW… RECOMMENDATION: ***Review REQUIRED by Officer***
***Please Review RE Lead statement and duties edoc ZZZZZZ
*** Please Review information regarding refusal in notes
A11.2 REVIEW REQUIRED
R87: REVIEW REQUIRED
R75: REVIEW REQUIRED
R76: Selection Criteria – FSW POINTS: REVIEW REQUIRED

EDUCATION CREDENTIAL(S) PROVIDED Master’s Degree, COMPUTER APPLICATIONS R75(2)(A) PRIMARY OCCUPATION: 2171 Information Systems Analysts and Consultants WORK EXPERIENCE 1: ZZZZZ (NOC:2171) for ZZZZZZZZZZZ R75(2) LETTER OF EMPLOYMENT (eDoc# ZZZZ) REVIEW REQUIRED
FSW POINTS: REVIEW REQUIRED
FSW score at ITA: 73 / Min required FSW Score: 67 Total FSW Points Assessed: 53

NOTES: 2
REVIEW TYPE:
Program Assistant APPLICATION# ZZZZZZZZZ …
---- POLICE CERTIFICATE ----
Primary Applicant 1 – USA FBI police certificate: Provided-NRT 2 – India police certificate: Provided-NRT R10 OK Recommendation: Review Required – Statutory Questions
===========================

Background:
  • Category: FSW-O PNP
  • NOC: 2171
  • Expr: 15+ yrs in same IT company (Deputation: US-6yrs, UK-1yr)
  • PNP: SINP nominated (July'20)
Employment Documents:
  • Reference Letter: Got Notarized Reference Letter from colleague as company doesn't issue Reference letter to current employees
  • Additional docs: ID, Offer / Joining / Promotion / Annual Compensation letters, Payslips, Bank statements showing Salary deposits, Tax Returns (India, US, UK), Work Permits (US/UK), Retirement Funds (EPF, Superannuation, 401K), Award Certificates, Appreciations from Client, Sample emails showing communication related to projects with Customers
US Student Visa: Refusal in year 2003 (declared as part of Statutory question)

Question 1: Even after providing so much documentation for current Employment (15+ yrs) and having got nominated by SINP, why still Review Required on Eligibility? I think, I have provided exhaustive documentation to support the Employment claim.

Question 2: Statutory Question: Review Required
After having refused Student Visa in yr 2003, I was granted Employment Visa by USA and worked on deputation for over 6 years. Anything to worry about the Review Required here?

Question 3: FSW score at ITA 73 and FSW Points Assessed: 53. What's causing the assessed points to be at 53?

Appreciate if you can review the GCMS notes and guide on next steps that I should take to satisfy the Officer reviewing the application.

Thank you!

The Note 2 is the completeness check note, i.e. R10

R87 pertains to Provincial Nominee Class eligibility criteria
R76 refers to Minimum number of points required.
R75 refers to the MEC for FSW, i..e 67 points In your case the assessment has been Min required FSW Score: 67 Total FSW Points Assessed: 53


Q1. It does not matter how many documents you provide, what matters is that the documents helps you meet the criteria.
Q2. If you answered yes to a stat question, you will have RR for it. As long as you have disclosed it, you need not worry.
Q3. See https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/federal-skilled-workers/six-selection-factors-federal-skilled-workers.html

And compare how much you score. You have to get at least 67 out of 100 to be eligible under FSW and PNP.

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,896
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon
If company amalgamation to change new name and business number,
But we already have approved LMIA and PR applied, do we need to get new lmia or just informing cic and service canada is enough?
If your company structure has changed, based on what corporate changes happened, your company will have to inform Service Canada and IRCC, based on the specific changes.
 
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