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mikefox299

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A lot of Nov 2020 folks got the email from IRCC yesterday.
I didn't get that email. But I got a ghost update on Sept 30 and today. So 2 in total in the past week. I believe that is my eligibility check, since it wasn't started.
 
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Chidum

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If you answer yes to any statutory questions then you will have review required, which is common.

Statutory questions pertain to any prior visa refusal, criminality, etc. The RR during R10 is different from EE for eligibility. For EE for R10, you do not have to do anything. For EE for eligibility see my previous post:


Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To streamline this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision-making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize them in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst/assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst/assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst/assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is a “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are known as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your POF is anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day-to-day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

These are just some of the scenarios.
Hi @legalfacon OR any experts in the building. The 4. RR can you help explain it. 4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC. I have my primary noc as 1yr6months & 2 extra NOC making total work experience 4years. Do you think I got RR because I don’t have up to 3years in the primary NOC. I am worried cause I don’t understand it says my points have dropped.
 

HezekiahVelle

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AOR Received.
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@legalfalcon Could you please share your thoughts on this if possible?
I raised a webform today for addition of new born to my profile by submitting birth certificate, passport and POF. Other than this what document you feel would be required so that I can keep handy!!.
Also, will the new born name get directly added to my profile by sending the webform itself or is there completely a different procedure for the same?
 

Rustom

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@legalfalcon Could you please share your thoughts on this if possible?
I raised a webform today for addition of new born to my profile by submitting birth certificate, passport and POF. Other than this what document you feel would be required so that I can keep handy!!.
Also, will the new born name get directly added to my profile by sending the webform itself or is there completely a different procedure for the same?
Congratulations !
Generic application form
Schedule A
Additional dependent declaration form
Additional family information form
Birth certificate, Passport, PCC if applicable (6Months+)
Medicals
POF
LOE
Payment for IRCC and residency right receipt

Download all updated forms from
Find an IRCC application package or form - Canada.ca
 

HezekiahVelle

Star Member
Sep 24, 2020
123
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India
Nomination.....
OINP PNP
AOR Received.
21-11-2020
Congratulations !
Generic application form
Schedule A
Additional dependent declaration form
Additional family information form
Birth certificate, Passport, PCC if applicable (6Months+)
Medicals
POF
LOE
Payment for IRCC and residency right receipt

Download all updated forms from
Find an IRCC application package or form - Canada.ca
Great!! thank you, this is helpful.
But looks like for medicals they would be providing it explicitly on website itself only after the dependent gets added to the profile?. I think medical can not be done before requested but not sure though.
 
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sgoldsmith

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Nov 20, 2020
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@legalfalcon, I have a quick question for you

With an application under RR since mid-January and medicals expired, is it safe to say that I should not bother contacting the VO or ordering GCMS notes until I receive a remeds request or medical extension notification ?
 

legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon Could you please share your thoughts on this if possible?
I raised a webform today for addition of new born to my profile by submitting birth certificate, passport and POF. Other than this what document you feel would be required so that I can keep handy!!.
Also, will the new born name get directly added to my profile by sending the webform itself or is there completely a different procedure for the same?
You will need to submit forms. You can wait for IRCC to send you the list or use the one posted by @Rustom
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,030
9,888
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016

sgoldsmith

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Nov 20, 2020
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GCMS notes have no role in the processing of your application. You can request GCMS notes as and when you like.

Thanks for the quick reply.

I know that requesting the notes would not have an impact on the processing of the application.

I was under the impression that once the medical certificate has expired, the decision to renew it or request a new one, only comes when the other stages have been cleared (hence notes ordered before such a request would not contain any new update). Is that so ?
 

walnorez

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Feb 14, 2021
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Thanks for the quick reply.

I know that requesting the notes would not have an impact on the processing of the application.

I was under the impression that once the medical certificate has expired, the decision to renew it or request a new one, only comes when the other stages have been cleared (hence notes ordered before such a request would not contain any new update). Is that so ?
Yes, can easily be no update. I’d rather order notes after every profile update (GU), especially if Background status changes with it too.
 
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baryonix

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Just got another GCMS note today, Date generated is 23 Sep. No progress since February...

Criminality in Process
Security not started
Medical Passed
Information sharing complete
Eligibility complete
 
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