New Citizenship Bill Thursday Feb 6th

[sicko86]

Guys no need to Panic.

The law will take time until it becomes inforce.

Look at Canadian Citizenship act 1946 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Citizenship_Act_1946/

Date assented to June 27, 1946
Date commenced January 1, 1947

and I think the same was for Citizenship act 1977, which was voted on in 1976 .. I couldnt get the exact dates.

So Based on Previous voting it will take couple of months until the law is effective.

I should apply for Citizenship in June .. I hope I can make it!

 

[keesio]

in the new proposed bill "Time spent in Canada without permanent resident status would no longer count towards citizenship."
read this somewhere
can some confirm plz ??!!!

Yes it is true. It is the part of the bill I have the most issues with. I can live with everything else except for that.

 

[mrbravo]

I sent my application on February 1st 2014 and Canada post reported that it was delivered February 6th. I hope the new bill wont affect my file.

I think your application will be returned because you will have to pay the new processing fees as of today. If it was received, you would have been ok.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/adults.asp

Hope this helps.

 

[sept15]

What a bad luck.
Now I will have to wait for them to open my file, Find the old fees are being paid, Mail me back the file, Me paying the new fees and sending it back to them.
They should have stated that fees paid after or on 6 of February rather than a received date that we have nothing to do with.

I agree. How would they expect us to 'know the future'.

 

[skhan123]

I should apply for Citizenship in June .. I hope I can make it!


Hi sicko86,

just curious to know how can you apply in june 2014? you landed in Jan 2012? In June it will be 2.5 years. I have seen someone else in the forum also intention to apply earlier than 3 years.

regards.

 

[sicko86]

I should apply for Citizenship in June .. I hope I can make it!


Hi sicko86,

just curious to know how can you apply in june 2014? you landed in Jan 2012? In June it will be 2.5 years. I have seen someone else in the forum also intention to apply earlier than 3 years.

regards.

I was a Student before being PR .. I am in Canada since 2008 .. Thats why

 

[harry_aussie]

So sad about elimination of time spent in Canada before getting PR. How come these stupids nullify someones time spent in Canada ?. My wife has paid taxes all these years and now she was going to apply in September this year. By the virtue of this stupid law, now she will have to wait till September 2016. It is so hard to understand that how can this point even be related to Citizenship and yes she is more passionate about Canada as compared to some of the so called real Canadians.

 

[sicko86]

So sad about elimination of time spent in Canada before getting PR. How come these stupids nullify someones time spent in Canada ?. My wife has paid taxes all these years and now she was going to apply in September this year. By the virtue of this stupid law, now she will have to wait till September 2016. It is so hard to understand that how can this point even be related to Citizenship and yes she is more passionate about Canada as compared to some of the so called real Canadians.

Take it easy bro .. It will take a year at least until the law will be effective .. go see the previous citizenship acts, there is a high chance your wife will make it .. I am the same case .. I am here since 2008 and I should apply by June 2014, if this law is in effect before that .. I have to wait till sometime in 2016 :S

 

[vic48912]

So sad about elimination of time spent in Canada before getting PR. How come these stupids nullify someones time spent in Canada ?. My wife has paid taxes all these years and now she was going to apply in September this year. By the virtue of this stupid law, now she will have to wait till September 2016. It is so hard to understand that how can this point even be related to Citizenship and yes she is more passionate about Canada as compared to some of the so called real Canadians.

Be positive maybe the law wouldn't be in effect September. I advice your wife should get her citizenship application forms and docs all tidy, ready to mail hoping luck will be on her side

 

[harry_aussie]

Thank You so much Vic and Sicko. I hope your words turn out to be true

 

[Travel Dream]

Is there any change on PR renewal ( 2 out of 5)

 

[sept15]

Is there any change on PR renewal ( 2 out of 5)

no.

 

[links18]

yes, option 2.

A question that brings together our two main concerns: Could Ministerial revocation for "false representation or fraud or knowingly concealing material circumstances" be employed if a naturalized citizen, who signed the declaration, chooses to exercise their Charter Mobility Rights and indicates that continual residence in Canada was not their true, lifelong intention? This looks possible...and again, it looks offensive to the value and equality of citizenship.

Of course, there is the tricky definition of what counts as "resides." Did they clarify that part of it? Does it require physical presence?

The US has two classes of citizenship enshrined in its constitution: Natural born and not-natural born. Of course, the only effective difference is that the non natural born can't be President or Vice President. If the Canadian Charter requires that all citizens be equal before the law then such an action as you cite above would seem to be a violation. Of course, the catch is that the minister would claim that the revocation is done as a result of fraud in the application process.

 

[dangerJones]

As noted earlier, the intent to do something is not necessarily binding. You are already required to show intent to reside somewhere under PNP or if sponsoring a spouse from overseas. These are not enforced, as circumstances can change. As long as you don't leave the day after you apply for citizenship, I don't foresee any real issues.

Hopefully you're right about that. It seems pretty unfair to expect that a new Canadian citizen should be chained to the country for evermore. It's already complicated enough living life with family connections in different countries; new legislation should make it easier, not harder, for honest people to maintain those connections.

 

[dangerJones]

Requires physical presence for four years (1,460 days) out of the six years;
183 days minimum of physical presence per year in four out of six years;

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but does anyone happen to know if the new requirements for physical presence would apply to PRs looking to fulfill their residency obligations? For example, if my wife and I are spending a year living abroad with her family, is she still meeting her PR obligations since she's living with me, a Canadian citizen? Will the new "physical presence" requirements apply? Or do they really only apply for the purpose of getting citizenship?

Edit: Never mind, I got an answer to this question here: http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/citizenship-bill-t184135.0.html.