Live-in caregiver work permit-refused
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@bob02
I am from the Philippines. my sister is the one who helped me in my application. accdg to her, she first went to services canada for the LMO, and when she got it, she send it to me which prompted me to send my requirements to the canadian embassy in Manila. but be careful, once your brother applied for LMO, make sure your requirements, everything or almost everything is ready for submision. because you only have 6mos from date of LMO to submit your requirements (unlike before that, the validity date is 2 years which is more than enough to process and prepare all the requirements needed. Another thing, services canada is now very strict in issuing LMO. they review thoroughly the applicants and if they already issued one, it is unlikely that they will issue again to the same applicant. well, maybe its a case to case basis.
my qualification primarily is my 7month live in caregiver training. i do not exactly have work experience related to caregiving but you dont have to have one if you finish a caregiver training course. and in case you do have at least 1year paid work in domestic experience, you can use that to apply for LCP.
during the interview, i was never asked of any ties regarding my country. i think it doesnt really matter since im applying for LCP and not a tourist visa. but if in case i was asked during the interview, i would just tell them that "its too early to say and that im open to possibilities. i would just like to experience first and then check on my options later." that way you wont sound like youre too excited to get PR and also wont sound like youre only after getting the PR. its a safe question to a very delicate question.
my proof i have submitted are trainings/certificates i got from my training school. i also included my college diploma and transcript of records for my education, certificate of employment i have worked for the past 10years(even if its not related to caregiving),my nbi clearance, police clearance from other countries (if you stayed in another country for at least 6months or more).
in summary the following are my requirements (aside from the form and addl live in caregiver form)
1. certificate of training (caregiving training)
2. diploma (caregiving training)
3. certificate of OJT (community training and hospital training(
4. diploma for my college degree
5. transcript of records.
6. certificate of employment (from past employers from 10yrs ago
7. nbi clearance (those living in Philipines)
8. police clearance (from countries where you stayed for 6months or more)
i did not show any ownership documents or statement of account. like what ive said, if ur applying for a tourist visa. it is more likely that the visa officer will ask them from you.
MP is member of parliament. like what other members in here are always saying. MP can pressure the VO/IO to help them ease the process. but you have to make a strong case.
lastly, no. my sister did everythikng on her own. from the application of LMO to the last minute requirement. she didnt hire any lawyer or agency since it will cost them around 500$ and since she got lots of help from other friends on how to process my application step by step.
hope this helps.. by the way from what country are you from?
I am from the Philippines. my sister is the one who helped me in my application. accdg to her, she first went to services canada for the LMO, and when she got it, she send it to me which prompted me to send my requirements to the canadian embassy in Manila. but be careful, once your brother applied for LMO, make sure your requirements, everything or almost everything is ready for submision. because you only have 6mos from date of LMO to submit your requirements (unlike before that, the validity date is 2 years which is more than enough to process and prepare all the requirements needed. Another thing, services canada is now very strict in issuing LMO. they review thoroughly the applicants and if they already issued one, it is unlikely that they will issue again to the same applicant. well, maybe its a case to case basis.
my qualification primarily is my 7month live in caregiver training. i do not exactly have work experience related to caregiving but you dont have to have one if you finish a caregiver training course. and in case you do have at least 1year paid work in domestic experience, you can use that to apply for LCP.
during the interview, i was never asked of any ties regarding my country. i think it doesnt really matter since im applying for LCP and not a tourist visa. but if in case i was asked during the interview, i would just tell them that "its too early to say and that im open to possibilities. i would just like to experience first and then check on my options later." that way you wont sound like youre too excited to get PR and also wont sound like youre only after getting the PR. its a safe question to a very delicate question.
my proof i have submitted are trainings/certificates i got from my training school. i also included my college diploma and transcript of records for my education, certificate of employment i have worked for the past 10years(even if its not related to caregiving),my nbi clearance, police clearance from other countries (if you stayed in another country for at least 6months or more).
in summary the following are my requirements (aside from the form and addl live in caregiver form)
1. certificate of training (caregiving training)
2. diploma (caregiving training)
3. certificate of OJT (community training and hospital training(
4. diploma for my college degree
5. transcript of records.
6. certificate of employment (from past employers from 10yrs ago
7. nbi clearance (those living in Philipines)
8. police clearance (from countries where you stayed for 6months or more)
i did not show any ownership documents or statement of account. like what ive said, if ur applying for a tourist visa. it is more likely that the visa officer will ask them from you.
MP is member of parliament. like what other members in here are always saying. MP can pressure the VO/IO to help them ease the process. but you have to make a strong case.
lastly, no. my sister did everythikng on her own. from the application of LMO to the last minute requirement. she didnt hire any lawyer or agency since it will cost them around 500$ and since she got lots of help from other friends on how to process my application step by step.
hope this helps.. by the way from what country are you from?
Thanks for many many times!! for your reply.
I'm a male, from Karachi,Pakistan.I'm a teacher for primary school and have been doing it for my entire life.We don't have a training programme for "caregiver".We have nurses for disable and elderly who can stay day and night with the patient if required.We do have day care centre for working women to leave their child.We also have a child day care centre training programme which lasts for 4 months.But that is only for ladies.
Apart from that,we have a one year certificate programme in early childhood education called 'Primary teaching certificate' (PTC) but it is designed to provide class room teaching not "live in caregiving".The programme has subjects like childhood psychology,care,education etc and is similar to Maria montessory or other related course in early child hood education.
I also want to clarify that:
a) Will the visa office accept a one year PTC as an educational requirement?
b) Will they accept a school's primary level teaching experience as an experience? OR will they insist on having an experience in providing a care to a child in any one's home OR a day care?
c) Do they ask for pay slips,money being deposited into a bank account? to show a proof of being paid?
d)This question is Important,What can be the maximum age of a cild who is needing a caregiver??Can I become a caregiver for a child of 10,14??
e) Another important question..What can be the maximum age of a caregiver??
I also have my graduation in Commerce.I don't know that should I show it to them or simply show a high school qualification with a PTC.
Well... all I can think are these questions..see how many can you solve :
I'm a male, from Karachi,Pakistan.I'm a teacher for primary school and have been doing it for my entire life.We don't have a training programme for "caregiver".We have nurses for disable and elderly who can stay day and night with the patient if required.We do have day care centre for working women to leave their child.We also have a child day care centre training programme which lasts for 4 months.But that is only for ladies.
Apart from that,we have a one year certificate programme in early childhood education called 'Primary teaching certificate' (PTC) but it is designed to provide class room teaching not "live in caregiving".The programme has subjects like childhood psychology,care,education etc and is similar to Maria montessory or other related course in early child hood education.
I also want to clarify that:
a) Will the visa office accept a one year PTC as an educational requirement?
b) Will they accept a school's primary level teaching experience as an experience? OR will they insist on having an experience in providing a care to a child in any one's home OR a day care?
c) Do they ask for pay slips,money being deposited into a bank account? to show a proof of being paid?
d)This question is Important,What can be the maximum age of a cild who is needing a caregiver??Can I become a caregiver for a child of 10,14??
e) Another important question..What can be the maximum age of a caregiver??
I also have my graduation in Commerce.I don't know that should I show it to them or simply show a high school qualification with a PTC.
Well... all I can think are these questions..see how many can you solve :
@ Grade08
You mentioned that you provided a proof of a 10 year employment not related to caregiving..Can you tell what employment was that?
Did you submit an IELTS test result?? or any other International English language testing result?
You used an MP to ease your case.Do you think that was the only reason for the approval of your case?
You mentioned that you provided a proof of a 10 year employment not related to caregiving..Can you tell what employment was that?
Did you submit an IELTS test result?? or any other International English language testing result?
You used an MP to ease your case.Do you think that was the only reason for the approval of your case?
wow.. thats really a lot of questions, which some of them, i dont know. with the qualifications. you just have to go to the site
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/caregiver/apply-who.asp
requirements are all there. im just not sure with your requirements. maybe you can ask your brother to inquire first before applying.
educational requirement : You must have successfully completed the equivalent of Canadian high school education (secondary school). Because of the differences in school systems across Canada, it is not possible to give a precise number of years. In most provinces, it takes 12 years of schooling to obtain a Canadian high school diploma. The immigration officer assessing your application will let you know what is needed.
and since you are a graduate, you already achieved this educational requirement. you have to include your transcript of records and diploma though because your high school diploma may not be enought to meet their minimum requirement. we have to remember canada have a diffierent curriculum in their education.
you can take care of a child of ages up to 18 (accdg to one post). but you have to make a strong case too why you have to take care of a teenager. i have a friend who was denied since the child she's supposed to take care of is already 15. embassy thinks the child is old enough to be independent and doesnt really need any help. but then as ive said, you have to have a strong case. justify the need. but if youre taking care of child with special needs, it doesnt matter if its more than 18. you can take care of elderly too. im not just sure of the minimum age.
im not sure with the maximum age of a caregiver, but i have a classmate in my training who is 50years old and she is now in UK working in a homecare/elderly.
my employment records are certiifcates i got from my work in a fastfood, trading store and warehouse job. not at all related to caregiving.
i didnt do IELTS or any english languate testing. during the interview, you will be oriented that you will be questioned in english and should therefore answer in english language. this is i think their way of knowing whether you can speak the language.
my sister contacted MP just to expedite my case since she really and badly needs help here. im not sure if thats the reason why i got approved. but then they did hellp in expediting my case. my family's guess is that i may be approved with or without MP but then it wil probably take time, maybe next year.
some answers are speculations and im not 100% sure since im speaking on my experience but i hope still these helps. the seniors maybe can help too in case they know some answers.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/caregiver/apply-who.asp
requirements are all there. im just not sure with your requirements. maybe you can ask your brother to inquire first before applying.
educational requirement : You must have successfully completed the equivalent of Canadian high school education (secondary school). Because of the differences in school systems across Canada, it is not possible to give a precise number of years. In most provinces, it takes 12 years of schooling to obtain a Canadian high school diploma. The immigration officer assessing your application will let you know what is needed.
and since you are a graduate, you already achieved this educational requirement. you have to include your transcript of records and diploma though because your high school diploma may not be enought to meet their minimum requirement. we have to remember canada have a diffierent curriculum in their education.
you can take care of a child of ages up to 18 (accdg to one post). but you have to make a strong case too why you have to take care of a teenager. i have a friend who was denied since the child she's supposed to take care of is already 15. embassy thinks the child is old enough to be independent and doesnt really need any help. but then as ive said, you have to have a strong case. justify the need. but if youre taking care of child with special needs, it doesnt matter if its more than 18. you can take care of elderly too. im not just sure of the minimum age.
im not sure with the maximum age of a caregiver, but i have a classmate in my training who is 50years old and she is now in UK working in a homecare/elderly.
my employment records are certiifcates i got from my work in a fastfood, trading store and warehouse job. not at all related to caregiving.
i didnt do IELTS or any english languate testing. during the interview, you will be oriented that you will be questioned in english and should therefore answer in english language. this is i think their way of knowing whether you can speak the language.
my sister contacted MP just to expedite my case since she really and badly needs help here. im not sure if thats the reason why i got approved. but then they did hellp in expediting my case. my family's guess is that i may be approved with or without MP but then it wil probably take time, maybe next year.
some answers are speculations and im not 100% sure since im speaking on my experience but i hope still these helps. the seniors maybe can help too in case they know some answers.
Thank you for your help.
I know I ask many questions but that is cause I think like them,the immigration people.There are simply so many things that can go wrong and on top of that,there are cases which were fit enough to be accepted but were refused.OR perhaps they grant you visa just by liking your face..lol!!! 8)
According to one post some where in this site,By law,children under 12 cannot be left alone in home,they must be supervised by any elder.So,the maximum age of a child in need of a caregiving can be under 12.That is my assumption.
I know I ask many questions but that is cause I think like them,the immigration people.There are simply so many things that can go wrong and on top of that,there are cases which were fit enough to be accepted but were refused.OR perhaps they grant you visa just by liking your face..lol!!! 8)
According to one post some where in this site,By law,children under 12 cannot be left alone in home,they must be supervised by any elder.So,the maximum age of a child in need of a caregiving can be under 12.That is my assumption.
@ Grade 08
I did not ask you that.
What should be the employer's gross income?
What should be the minimum pay for the caregiver?
Some say your employer should have at least $60,000 gross per anum AND a room for you.Some say any combination satisfying all the expenses of the employer including caregiver's salary.Some say,HRSDC has set a minimum pay for the caregiver that has to be paid but no minimum income is set for the employer.
What was your situation?? your and your employer's pay?? were you givin a room? What about sharing a room with the child in need of caregiver.There has to be a seperate room for the child..is that true.If it is true then my brother has to have a 3 room house.
I did not ask you that.
What should be the employer's gross income?
What should be the minimum pay for the caregiver?
Some say your employer should have at least $60,000 gross per anum AND a room for you.Some say any combination satisfying all the expenses of the employer including caregiver's salary.Some say,HRSDC has set a minimum pay for the caregiver that has to be paid but no minimum income is set for the employer.
What was your situation?? your and your employer's pay?? were you givin a room? What about sharing a room with the child in need of caregiver.There has to be a seperate room for the child..is that true.If it is true then my brother has to have a 3 room house.
How long did it take you to process your WP/visa? You're from the Philippines, right?
Grade 08 said:
Yeah, you're right. It takes 12-18 months as per the website but I know somebody who applied sometime in 2005 but was able to come to Canada in 2009.
Grade 08 said:
From the Philippines. I don't know what went wrong with her application but she's good; she's here now. But LMOs for LCPs at that time are easy to apply for and duration are longer.
bob02 said:
@ job seeker
I guess LMO's were hard to get a that time.BUT the ministery has announced that they will make it stricter for candidates willing to arrive as LCP in 2011 by varifying the genuinity for the position.They better allow it to become a family reunionification scheme because no one can take care of a family member better than a family member.OR should modify it with this regard.
Just for the sake of curiosity..where are you from?
I guess LMO's were hard to get a that time.BUT the ministery has announced that they will make it stricter for candidates willing to arrive as LCP in 2011 by varifying the genuinity for the position.They better allow it to become a family reunionification scheme because no one can take care of a family member better than a family member.OR should modify it with this regard.
Just for the sake of curiosity..where are you from?
