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wick_sran

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AOR Received.
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I am from may, maybe I can bring some hope for June

CEC Inland, Sydney CIO Timeline:

AOR: May 21st, 2019
MEP: July 1st, 2019
ADR: July 1st, 2019 (HK and Singapore Police cert)
ADR submit: August and September
Long silence for at least 6 months (The wait is the painful and toughest part)
GU: Jan 21st, 2020 at 5pm EST
PPR: Jan 22nd, 2020 at 7am EST

Webform submit: 7 times in between (latest one was a week before PPR and agent said reviewed shortly)
Call: Once a week or every 2 weeks after 6 months timeline
GCMS: 2 times (Latest one received 3 days before PPR)

aww...Finally done :)
Congratulations! Have a good time ahead.
Could you please tell how long it took to issue your GCMS notes each time? I received mine first set of notes after 125 days. Now, waiting for the past two and half months for second one to be released.
 
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phl2019

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Buddy I got the same reply when I called on completion of my 6th month on 22nd December. Now when i called last week, they said that wait till 31st Jan and if you do not hear anything from us by then , please call back again and we wil let u know if something is making hurdles. :(. AOR 22nd June BC PNP inland and file is at Halifax.
@hmusman79 I remember you from months back! I wish your PPR comes sooner! Good luck!
 

Harry1211

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Oct 22, 2019
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Aor June 1 ,US resident from India.

Called IRCC today and no update on security, eligibility yet. They are still in progress. Still see awaiting review of an officer on eligibility. However my Case moved from CIO Sydney to CPC ottawa and that's the only change. Hat does this mean? Any idea?
 

WaitingJune19

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Aor June 1 ,US resident from India.

Called IRCC today and no update on security, eligibility yet. They are still in progress. Still see awaiting review of an officer on eligibility. However my Case moved from CIO Sydney to CPC ottawa and that's the only change. Hat does this mean? Any idea?
I am in the same boat and from what I have been reading here is my conclusion. There could be 3 scenarios -

Guesses -
1- you, me, Vsonic, Cjas, Diane and Ednut are US/CA based applicants moved from Sydney to Ottawa recently.
2 - All are in queue for officer
3 - Most have eligibility in progress or further review required

Scenario 1 -
We met R10 and all our docs are in. Our cases were recommended for further eligibility review to Ottawa based on analyst recommendation at sydney. They will probably come back for ADRs once the officer gets to reviewing our file.

Scenario 2 -
Everything met according to analyst at sydney and now just waiting for officer to give final opinion at Ottawa.

Scenario 3 -
Its just workload distribution and we could all be in either scenario 1 or 2 stage.

I notice Sydney is also giving out PPRs (Indpav/Jaganv117) so its not true that all US based applicants go to Ottawa. I am guessing its min March/Apr wait if not more if its scenario 1. But as Cjas pointed out, at least some movement in the file.
 
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Harry1211

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I am in the same boat and from what I have been reading here is my conclusion. There could be 3 scenarios -

Guesses -
1- you, me, Vsonic, Cjas, Diane and Ednut are US based applicants moved from Sydney to Ottawa recently.
2 - All are in queue for officer
3 - Most have eligibility in progress or further review required

Scenario 1 -
We met R10 and all our docs are in. Our cases were recommended for further eligibility review to Ottawa based on analyst recommendation at sydney. They will probably come back for ADRs once the officer gets to reviewing our file.

Scenario 2 -
Everything met according to analyst at sydney and now just waiting for officer to give final opinion at Ottawa.

Scenario 3 -
Its just workload distribution and we could all be in either scenario 1 or 2 stage.

I notice Sydney is also giving out PPRs (Indpav/Jaganv117) so its not true that all US based applicants go to Ottawa. I am guessing its min March/Apr wait if not more if its scenario 1. But as Cjas pointed out, at least some movement in the file.
I hope we all fit in Scenario 2 here considering my medical would expire in April 2020.I feel somewhat positive about file moving to Ottawa(not sure why) but yeah stick around the forum and report any pprs all. Bless
 
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a16107

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Congratulations! Have a good time ahead.
Could you please tell how long it took to issue your GCMS notes each time? I received mine first set of notes after 125 days. Now, waiting for the past two and half months for second one to be released.
they both take 1 month to receive...very on time lol
 

a16107

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I am in the same boat and from what I have been reading here is my conclusion. There could be 3 scenarios -

Guesses -
1- you, me, Vsonic, Cjas, Diane and Ednut are US/CA based applicants moved from Sydney to Ottawa recently.
2 - All are in queue for officer
3 - Most have eligibility in progress or further review required

Scenario 1 -
We met R10 and all our docs are in. Our cases were recommended for further eligibility review to Ottawa based on analyst recommendation at sydney. They will probably come back for ADRs once the officer gets to reviewing our file.

Scenario 2 -
Everything met according to analyst at sydney and now just waiting for officer to give final opinion at Ottawa.

Scenario 3 -
Its just workload distribution and we could all be in either scenario 1 or 2 stage.

I notice Sydney is also giving out PPRs (Indpav/Jaganv117) so its not true that all US based applicants go to Ottawa. I am guessing its min March/Apr wait if not more if its scenario 1. But as Cjas pointed out, at least some movement in the file.
Many of the May CEC applicants received PPR directly from Sydney CIO this week (so they work like a batch after 6 months, for example, May 1- May 15 received on Jan 21, 16-21 received on Jan 22 and May 20 -May 31 received on Jan 24 etc)
 

TB2019

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Many of the May CEC applicants received PPR directly from Sydney CIO this week (so they work like a batch after 6 months, for example, May 1- May 15 received on Jan 21, 16-21 received on Jan 22 and May 20 -May 31 received on Jan 24 etc)
Congratulations!
 

nullexception

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Does anybody know who to access the application and all the information that we submitted before in the portal. I have been asked to submit the Schedule A once again today. I am now confused what information I gave before.
 

g s sandhu

Star Member
Nov 30, 2018
86
26
Punjab
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Sydney nova scotia
NOC Code......
7237
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
29/11/2018
Nomination.....
2/8/2019
AOR Received.
15/05/2019
Med's Request
04/11/2019
Med's Done....
19/11/2019
Many of the May CEC applicants received PPR directly from Sydney CIO this week (so they work like a batch after 6 months, for example, May 1- May 15 received on Jan 21, 16-21 received on Jan 22 and May 20 -May 31 received on Jan 24 etc)
I m may 15 ar waiting fr dm
 

g s sandhu

Star Member
Nov 30, 2018
86
26
Punjab
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Sydney nova scotia
NOC Code......
7237
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
29/11/2018
Nomination.....
2/8/2019
AOR Received.
15/05/2019
Med's Request
04/11/2019
Med's Done....
19/11/2019
  1. Request you to add your details here to keep a track of where we stand as follows -
    DO NOT REPLY. Just copy this and paste/edit your info and post in the thread.
    username-AOR-type-visa office (format)

    Still waiting for PPR email -
    wick_sran – June 4-FSW-O-NDVO
    Waitingjune19 - June 4 - FSW - O- Ottawa
    usa2can4mind - June 27- FSW-O- Sydney,NS.
    vsonic - June 4 - FSW-O- Case Processing Centre in Ottawa, Ontario
    Diane - June 12 - CEC -BCPNP - Family of 4 - Ottawa
    Don't know Status -
    Harry1211- June 1 - FSW-O, Sydney NS
    DonatusRichard- June 4-
    Dimsa- June 6- ??- ??
    Imblessed- June 7 FSW-O, Montreal
    Ololosh- June 9-??-??
    Kavitaforpt June 9 PNP-O Sydney NS
    AJfern- June 10-??-??
    jaggisingh – June 11 -??-??
    uppu1988- June 11- ??-??
    Imutj84 - June 13 - FSW-0- ??
    Omidmoradi1970 - June 13- PNP-O,??
    rukaye - June 14, PNP-O, Accra
    libanais2 – June 15 - FSW-O - Sydney,NS
    Aatika_m – June 16-FSW-0-New Delhi
    techie12 - June 16 - FSW-O, Sydney, NS
    Prabh01- June 17 -??-New Delhi
    Sherryzhao945- June 17th. PNO-inland, VO Sydney
    Tripal June 19- fsw 0 - new delhi
    LardiaMagellan- June 20 – PNP-O- Sydney,NS
    Olabanji - June 21 -
    Dahiya- June 21- FSW-O, Sydney ,NS.
    hmusman79- June 22- PNP-BC In land-VO: Halifax
    Ednut- June 25-?? -??
    Nessie247- June 28-FSW-O - Sydney,NS
    MGNCMA – June 29- FSW-I – Montreal
    Sanyee- June -29- FSW-O,??
    swatkat91 - June 29 FSW-O, Ottawa
    mayank10- June 21 FSW - O, NEW DELHI
    Got PPR -
    Jaganv117- June 1 - FSW-O, Sydney NS
    Indpnv-June 3 - FSW-O- Sydney, NS
    karizma360 - June 28 FSWO Ottawa


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    #2060Today at 7:47 AM
    Still waiting for PPR email -
    wick_sran – June 4-FSW-O-NDVO
    Waitingjune19 - June 4 - FSW - O- Ottawa
    usa2can4mind - June 27- FSW-O- Sydney,NS.
    vsonic - June 4 - FSW-O- Case Processing Centre in Ottawa, Ontario

    Don't know Status -
    Harry1211- June 1 - FSW-O, Sydney NS
    DonatusRichard- June 4-
    Dimsa- June 6- ??- ??
    Imblessed- June 7 FSW-O, Montreal
    Ololosh- June 9-??-??
    Kavitaforpt June 9 PNP-O Sydney NS
    AJfern- June 10-??-??
    jaggisingh – June 11 -??-??
    uppu1988- June 11- ??-??
    Imutj84 - June 13 - FSW-0- ??
    Omidmoradi1970 - June 13- PNP-O,??
    rukaye - June 14, PNP-O, Accra
    libanais2 – June 15 - FSW-O - Sydney,NS
    Aatika_m – June 16-FSW-0-New Delhi
    techie12 - June 16 - FSW-O, Sydney, NS
    Prabh01- June 17 -??-New Delhi
    Sherryzhao945- June 17th. PNO-inland, VO Sydney
    Tripal June 19- fsw 0 - new delhi
    LardiaMagellan- June 20 – PNP-O- Sydney,NS
    Olabanji - June 21 -
    Dahiya- June 21- FSW-O, Sydney ,NS.
    hmusman79- June 22- PNP-BC In land-VO: Halifax
    Ednut- June 25-fsw o- ottawa- awaiting review
    Nessie247- June 28-FSW-O - Sydney,NS
    MGNCMA – June 29- FSW-I – Montreal
    Sanyee- June -29- FSW-O,??
    swatkat91 - June 29 FSW-O, Ottawa
    mayank10- June 21 FSW - O, NEW DELHI
    Got PPR -
    Jaganv117- June 1 - FSW-O, Sydney NS
    Indpnv-June 3 - FSW-O- Sydney, NS
    karizma360 - June 28 FSWO Ottawa
Still waiting fr dm, ar may
Aor june 19
 

g s sandhu

Star Member
Nov 30, 2018
86
26
Punjab
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Sydney nova scotia
NOC Code......
7237
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
29/11/2018
Nomination.....
2/8/2019
AOR Received.
15/05/2019
Med's Request
04/11/2019
Med's Done....
19/11/2019
Starting a new thread for all those who intend or have received their AoR in June 2019, or anticipate filing their application in June 2019.

Sharing some useful info here:

Visa Office


There has been an obsession of finding which visa office the application is at. Many threads on this forum start with explaining how to find your visa office. Let's get to the crux of it. Finding the visa office was very relevant pre- express entry. Even after the introduction of express entry in 2015, the same practice was followed which usually was for the paper based application, but that is no longer the case. Earlier all application followed the following trajectory:

Central Intake Office - Case Processing Centre - Local Visa Office

However, this has radically changed and for all express entry, all application follow the following:

1. Central Intake Office -
The R10 (completeness check) is done at the Central Intake Office for all classes (FSW / PNP / CEC). Now even the criminality and medicals are done at CIO.

2. Case Processing Centre - There are 4 case processing offices of IRCC, which are as follows:

Sydney, Nova Scotia - deals with the following:
  • provincial Nominee Program (PNP) – Non-Express Entry applications
  • Centralized Intake Office – Immigrant Investor Program (IIP)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Quebec Skilled Workers (QSW)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Start Up Business Class
  • Centralized Intake Office – Self Employed (SE)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Quebec Business Class (QBC)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Atlantic Immigration Pilot Program
Now has started doing eligibility for EE applications in limited numbers.

Vegreville, Alberta
Deals with Specialized permanent resident application. Those following in the category of Medical needs, work permits, work permits for spouses, study permits, co-op permits. EE applications which have a downgraded category.

This is the place where you EE application will land if any of the members in the application have a medical condition. This is where determinations of refusal, monitoring etc are made.

Now has started doing eligibility for EE applications in limited numbers.

Mississauga, Ontario
Only deals with family class PR applications.
No EE applications are dealt here so far.

Ottawa, Ontario
This is the most important processing office for all EE, and it is also the Local Visa Office for in-land applicants and those applying from USA.

This is based on the most recent information. IRCC has officers across Canada and some temporary offices that are used to process application based on workload distribution.

Local Visa Office - This is the office where you will be asked to submit your passport after your application has been approved. Usually the consulate in your home country.

These days all application after starting at CIO (where R10 is met), either start the processing of eligibility at CIO itself, or move to CPC (wither Ottawa, Sydney, or Vegreville), or are straight sent to the LVO. The trend has been to complete most of the processing between CIO and CPC. Since the applications are electronically stored, there is no movement of physical files.

SUGGESTION - There is no point sending emails to ask which VO your application is at, as that process is moot since the eligibility can even start at CIO. So save yourself some time and efforts and also save the human resources of IRCC and stop sending emails. Even if you know which VO your application is at, it means nothing. Most applications which are processed within weeks and get PPR, are processed at CIO, and this is a much faster way.

A few applications will see eligibility passed, and then go to not started when the application is sent to the LVO. This is because the final review is done at the LVO, and the local agent may decide to conduct additional review, or identification before the eligibility is finally set to PASSED.



Tracking your application

Unfortunately the only thing that you see is your MyCIC account. There has been a growing trend of speculation where change of status on MyCIC has been attributed to eligibility being passed, etc. The whole NA, IP IP2 is speculation and has no bearing on determining which stage your application is at. While any change of status is a good sign, but merely relying on NA and IP is not the correct way.

Most applicants will find it irrelevant, as their applications will be processed and approved within the first 3-4 months. It is those who wait for more than 4 months, where things go crazy as they keep relying on NA, IP etc, and see no movement or progress. Many other are stuck on so called IP2, and the PPR never seems to come.

So put these speculative theories to rest. As per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, regulations and the ministeral instructions every application goes through the following stages:

R10 (Completeness check)
Medicals
Criminality
A11.2 Eligibility (The most important stage)
Security


To read more on each stage click here. While most applicants will not need to go this deep, but for those who have concerns about the application or it is taking too long should see which stage they are at. Also, the only way to determine the stage is by GCMS notes. To read more on GCMS notes, see the thread here.

ECAS (Electronic Client Application Status) -

This was the most important tool pre EE to track an application and provided much more in-depth status than what MyCIC does. However, after the IRCC moved to the Global Case Management System (AKA GCMS) applications are no longer linked to ECAS.

So there is no point going there and checking.

Letter of Explanation -
As the name suggests, the LoE is exact what it sounds like. It is not an idea for the documents and you do not have to explain each document you are submitting in your application.

The simple rules to follow for LoE -

  • Should be 1-2 pages in length. If you cannot explain it in 1-2 pages, it is probably not worth it.
  • Only use LoE to explain an issue. Eg. you could not obtain a reference letter on letterhead, could not meet PoF 6 months avg balance, seeking exemption or extension from PCC, or to explain something in your application which is not clear.
  • IRCC Agents do read LoE, but if its too long and not to the point, it loses its importance.
  • You DO NOT need an index for your documents. There are placeholders for the documents just put each document there and when it is stored on the IRCC system it is names and stored in an organized way.


SOME USEFUL LINKS:

**Guide to Landing and Setteling** - https://goo.gl/8vQzcd
**Proof of Funds** - https://goo.gl/mPejMN
**Medicals** - https://goo.gl/Xpmj5e
**Age and EE** - https://goo.gl/u8bqAU
**Stages of EE Application ** - https://goo.gl/AmdtgR
**GCMS Notes** - https://goo.gl/Jhk1Un
**Keep GCMS Notes Safe** - https://goo.gl/97J7AT
**Add Spouse to app** - https://goo.gl/ZgRP6C
**PNP and its obligations** - https://goo.gl/XUva1e

All the best!!


THESE ARE MY VIEWS AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THESE. IF YOU HAVE CONTRARY VIEWS, JUST IGNORE IT AND DO WHAT YOUR CONSULTANT ASKED YOU, OR WHAT YOU DEEM FIT.
S this group fr pnp paper base or ee
 

kwintin

Member
Sep 2, 2019
12
19
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2174
AOR Received.
09-04-2020
After all I received a refusal letter yesterday.
From the looks of it the officer did not take into account the additional reference letter submitted through CSE webform and invokes 11.2 to refuse the application without further steps, since required documents were not included in the application when I submitted it in June. No ADR, no PFL even though they had everything available to them.
It’s a pity but I’ll just have to re-submit everything.

Hi all!

I have been silently reading this thread for a while now...
Since I’ll be shortly reaching half of my progress bar I thought this was a good time to join the party.

Myself and 2 dependents from Belgium
CRS 487 / April 3 draw (451 cutoff)
AoR : June 6
Medical passed : July 15
Biometrics completed : July 26 (at VFS Global Paris, France)

File is currently handled at CIO Sydney, NS
Criminality passed
Eligibility pending
Security not started

I didn’t pay too much attention to ghost updates up until the beginning of August. I have not noticed any since.
I ordered GCMS notes 4 weeks ago to get a better understanding of the whole process.
After thoroughly reading this forum I proactively submitted an updated letter of employment through CSE webform. HR didn’t want to include duties at first...

Good luck to you all and I hope to read all about your PPRs in the coming months!