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Inland Spousal Sponsorship

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~4 months from the day they receive the OWP application, with a completed inland PR application.

CPC-M does nearly all the processing for inland PR applications. Only in cases of excessive load (meaning other Case Processing Centres are required to help) or interview requests are cases in process sent out from CPC-M in the inland perspective. Once the case is complete, it will be sent to a local CIC office to have the landing interview conducted.
but since the pilot project for spouse OWP is expiring soon, are there any other applications that we can submit for him to stay here in canada ?
 

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but since the pilot project for spouse OWP is expiring soon, are there any other applications that we can submit for him to stay here in canada ?
The program launched in December of 2014 and was renewed in 2015. With the [apparent] success of the program and revenue that it has generated, I'd be shocked if it isn't extended again.
 

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The program launched in December of 2014 and was renewed in 2015. With the [apparent] success of the program and revenue that it has generated, I'd be shocked it it isn't extended again.
hmmm, fingers crossed, i really hope so.

any tips, as we will be getting married and submitting the application so quickly, that too when his WP is expiring soon.

also, can applicants not leave the country even after getting the OWP ?
 

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Pearl1 said:
any tips, as we will be getting married and submitting the application so quickly, that too when his WP is expiring soon.
It is possible to encounter slow processing times for Marriage Certificates in Ontario. When you are sending your application, be sure to include the Certificate, and not just the Record of Solemnisation.


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also, can applicants not leave the country even after getting the OWP ?
The in Canada class is intended for people to remain in Canada while the application is processed. Both the Sponsor (unless they are a Citizen of Canada) and the PA should remain in Canada. Though short trips outside are permitted, they are not recommended. The reason is the CBSA can refuse entry for any reason, and if they did, your fiance could end up with an abandoned PR application.
 

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The in Canada class is intended for people to remain in Canada while the application is processed. Both the Sponsor (unless they are a Citizen of Canada) and the PA should remain in Canada. Though short trips outside are permitted, they are not recommended. The reason is the CBSA can refuse entry for any reason, and if they did, your fiance could end up with an abandoned PR application.
what if we both travel together ?

can we apply for outland application from within canada ? if we do so, we will be able to freely move around but might not be eligible for his OWP, correct ?
 

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Pearl1 said:
what if we both travel together ?
If your previous post is correct, you have a PR. That means you are expected to remain for the duration of the processing of the file.


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can we apply for outland application from within canada ? if we do so, we will be able to freely move around but might not be eligible for his OWP, correct ?
You can apply outland, and he can renew Visitor Visas. Unless he can get a work permit, he cannot work. Outland applications are not eligible for OWP's.
 

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what if we both travel together ?

can we apply for outland application from within canada ? if we do so, we will be able to freely move around but might not be eligible for his OWP, correct ?
It's not a matter of being able to `freely move around', but rather what the consequences would be if he is denied re-entry.

Inland- His application is jeopardized, because he must be living/residing IN Canada with you (his sponsor). If he suddenly can no longer do that, the application is toast.

Outland- If he is denied re-entry, the application continues to be processed.

And you are correct; OWP is not available for an Outland applicant.

Where is he from? If he's from one of the visa-exempt countries that are enjoying fast processing times (i.e. USA, UK, AUS/NZ, for example) he could be processed in ~6 months, if the application is seen as a straightforward one, with no real questions/concerns from CIC.
 

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If your previous post is correct, you have a PR. That means you are expected to remain for the duration of the processing of the file.
Excellent point. As a PR (sponsor), she is required to stay in Canada during the process, save for those ambiguous `short trips' that CIC refuses to clarify, in terms of allowable duration. ;)
 

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Excellent point. As a PR (sponsor), she is required to stay in Canada during the process, save for those ambiguous `short trips' that CIC refuses to clarify, in terms of allowable duration. ;)
not even for a short vacation ? not even to visit parents back home ? can we not even travel together?

wow, like they really want people to get tied up here for more than 26 months :-[

and we both are from India
 

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Short trips are usually not a problem, but NOBODY seems to know how long is too long!

I can't imagine you'd be going back to India for one week, right? So...is one month too long?!

Probably, but again...no one seems to know the true answer. The fact that you, as a PR and not a Canadian citizen, are required to be in Canada during the process, only complicates this question.
 

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Short trips are usually not a problem, but NOBODY seems to know how long is too long!

I can't imagine you'd be going back to India for one week, right? So...is one month too long?!

Probably, but again...no one seems to know the true answer. The fact that you, as a PR and not a Canadian citizen, are required to be in Canada during the process, only complicates this question.
i cannot find it mentioned anywhere in the guide or eligibility that the sponsor needs to stay in canada during the process.
 

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Pearl1 said:
i cannot find it mentioned anywhere in the guide or eligibility that the sponsor needs to stay in canada during the process.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/page-27.html#h-79

S. 130 (1) and 130 (2).. 130 (1)(b) is the part that you're most interested in.
 

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i cannot find it mentioned anywhere in the guide or eligibility that the sponsor needs to stay in canada during the process.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3900ETOC.asp

Note: Permanent residents residing abroad may not sponsor from outside of Canada. Canadian citizens travelling as tourists are not considered to be residing abroad.

Since you are NOT [yet] a Canadian citizen, you must be in Canada to sponsor. If you leave for a short trip and CIC determines that it was too long...the application is toast.
 

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http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/page-27.html#h-79

S. 130 (1) and 130 (2).. 130 (1)(b) is the part that you're most interested in.
it just says "resides in canada".

and if anyone has to go for a vacation, does not implement that he is not a resident anymore.
 

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it just says "resides in canada".

and if anyone has to go for a vacation, does not implement that he is not a resident anymore.
I'm only trying to help, by sharing information with you. If you choose to focus on the semantics, you might have a huge problem on your hands.


Good luck...whatever you decide.