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Got GCMS notes and found out the reason why my application is delayed.

pocketchoi

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Hello, all.

I am not sure you guys know my situation (applied Apr 6th, got Aor May 5th requested GCMS notes Dec 5th), anyway,

Here is my note:

Application: I have analyzed this application based upon the documents submitted by the application and the information contained in the file and make the following recommendation.

Foss/gcms check: No adverse info. Principal applicant currently holds valid status in Canada.
Civil Status: PA never married, no spouse or common law declared.
Work Experience: Qualifying period in a skill level o,a or b.
Salary of $35.k, both t4 and a now from 2013 shows reported 30.k. Web-based search conducted-Online information verified.

Additional Notes: I not the that some paystubs indicate less than 30hr/w (May 52hr, jul 45hr) (Review required)
Language: Celpip submitted- applicant meets benchmarks for work experience at this skill level a
criminality: PA: - RCMP screening: No reportable trace
Police check: No reportable trace

Recommendation review required by officer.


Well, what do you guys think?
So i just wait till they contact me? and explain why my hours not enough?
If that't going to be a big issue, are they going to contact me? if i want to send out a letter explaining why, where can i send it to?


I live in Banff my hours get fluctuate depends on tourism.
And in July i was on vacation for a week, thats why it was small..

Hmm, I haven't think that i should provide enough info to tell why my hours not enough....

Thanks.
 

pocketchoi

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forever21 said:
Hi!
Did you apply right after competing the full year of employment?
No, 3 months after my full year...
I am sure I checked hours I've had worked before I put my application in.
But now that even makes me nervous if I did it correctly. :(
 

pocketchoi

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forever21 said:
You can only count 30hours max every week, even when you work 40 for example...
Hmm, ok. That doesn't sound good for me.
Thanks anyway.
 

pocketchoi

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But hmm....I worked 3 more months after that full year. And they didn't mention of short of time.
That means I worked 360 hrs for those 3 months.
It won't make up? Based on GCMS notes I only short 22.xx hours from thoes two pay periods.

Thanks.
 

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pocketchoi said:
But hmm....I worked 3 more months after that full year. And they didn't mention of short of time.
That means I worked 360 hrs for those 3 months.
It won't make up? Based on GCMS notes I only short 22.xx hours from thoes two pay periods.

Thanks.
Since you said you applied 3 months after your full year, of the 15 months of your experience, how many of these 15 months did you work less than 30 hours in a month?
 

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pocketchoi said:
But hmm....I worked 3 more months after that full year. And they didn't mention of short of time.
That means I worked 360 hrs for those 3 months.
It won't make up? Based on GCMS notes I only short 22.xx hours from thoes two pay periods.

Thanks.
There are two requirements for work period which must be met:
1. Full year (12 months) work.
2. At least 1560 hours of work.

Since you already met the first requirement, you just need to calculate your hours and if it is over 1560 hours, than you are safe.
 

pocketchoi

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pfse said:
There are two requirements for work period which must be met:
1. Full year (12 months) work.
2. At least 1560 hours of work.

Since you already met the first requirement, you just need to calculate your hours and if it is over 1560 hours, than you are safe.
Yes I am trying to talk to head office about that.
Becuz I only attached 2 more months of pay stubs with full yeat's paystubs.
If VO wants to calculate hours, they will contact me? Or to company?
 

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pfse said:
There are two requirements for work period which must be met:
1. Full year (12 months) work.
2. At least 1560 hours of work.

Since you already met the first requirement, you just need to calculate your hours and if it is over 1560 hours, than you are safe.
That is misleading and inaccurate. It is based on 12 months of full time work where every month is over 30 hours/week of work in that month. If you worked for less than 30 hours/week in a given month, then that month is not considered full time. It is not based on the total hours worked. The calculation needs to be done on a month by month basis.
 

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pocketchoi said:
Yes I am trying to talk to head office about that.
Becuz I only attached 2 more months of pay stubs with full yeat's paystubs.
If VO wants to calculate hours, they will contact me? Or to company?
If second VO finds any eligability issues, he/she may send you fairnes letter that you could address his/her concerns. Unfortuantelly it also depends on VO - not every VO gives another chance to applicants... VO also may call your employer just to confirm your position/duties/salary.
 

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seton said:
That is misleading and inaccurate. It is based on 12 months of full time work where every month is over 30 hours/week of work in that month. If you worked for less than 30 hours/week in a given month, then that month is not considered full time. It is not based on the total hours worked. The calculation needs to be done on a month by month basis.
Where did you get this info? As far, as I know VO will count worked hours.
But I forgot to mention indeed, that hours worked over 30 hours/week will not compensate missing hours in "part time week".
 

pocketchoi

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seton said:
That is misleading and inaccurate. It is based on 12 months of full time work where every month is over 30 hours/week of work in that month. If you worked for less than 30 hours/week in a given month, then that month is not considered full time. It is not based on the total hours worked. The calculation needs to be done on a month by month basis.

Thank you. But when you read this letter from VO,
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/cec-application-rejected-t264013.0.html

That over time period doesn't compensate short time. Doesn't it mean VO tried to see Thai applicant work up to 1560 hours?

Thanks
 

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pfse said:
Where did you get this info? As far, as I know VO will count worked hours.
But I forgot to mention indeed, that hours worked over 30 hours/week will not compensate missing hours in "part time week".
pfse said:
Where did you get this info? As far, as I know VO will count worked hours.
But I forgot to mention indeed, that hours worked over 30 hours/week will not compensate missing hours in "part time week".
This has been the case since the CEC class was implemented, and is available on the CIC website.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/apply-who.asp

Your experience must be at least 12 months of full-time (30 hours of paid work per week or more) or an equal amount in part-time hours.

Full Time
30 hours/week for 12 months
=
1 year full time (1560 hours)

--
Part time
15 hours/week for 24 months
=
1 year full time (1560 hours)

OR

30 hours/week for 12 months at more than one job
=
1 year full time (1560 hours)
They do not take into account hours worked over 30hours/week in counting a full-time month. i.e. you cannot work overtime for in one month to compensate another month where you worked under 30 hours/week to be considered full time. Unfortunately the way the rules are, seasonal workers like folks who work in tourist industries take a little longer than a calendar year to meet the eligibility criteria if for parts of the year, they don't work full time months.
 

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pocketchoi said:
Thank you. But when you read this letter from VO,
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/cec-application-rejected-t264013.0.html

That over time period doesn't compensate short time. Doesn't it mean VO tried to see Thai applicant work up to 1560 hours?

Thanks
The 1560 is the overall qualification hours, assuming that each of the 12 months were full time or each of the 24 months were part time. That letter is a clear example of my point in the earlier post - you need to do the calculations on a month by month basis, and count only those months where the hours exceeded 30 hours per week as a full time month. If you do that, you can really ignore the total hours calculation because it never actually comes into play.