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Distant Aunt in Ontario to sponsor

Dreamcatcher87

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Hello all,
I need help as I am very confused on what forms to fill out and forward to my distant aunt that is willing to sponsor me and my family.
She told me to fill out forms IMM 0008 and IM 0008 DEP and Schedule A and mail it to her
But I also found on the same but different page on cic where it says Application to Sponsor a Member of the Family class, Part 3 says that "Sponsored relatives must follow specific instructions depending on where they live. To find their region, use the list below."

And since Im from the P.I, it opens up a whole different checklist of documents..

Now my question is, do i fill those above mentioned forms out and then complete the Philippines checklist too and mail it to her in Canada or Are the first 3 forms the only ones I need to fill out? Or do I mail the centre in Mississuaga those Philippine documents after I mail her the IMM 008 forms?

Thanks!!
 

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There could be a route I'm not aware of but I didn't think it was possible for an aunt, never mind a distant one, to sponsor a relative to come to Canada.

Are you sure your aunt is able to sponsor you?
 

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Agreed with the above. Are you sure your aunt can sponsor you? In order to sponsor you she cannot have a husband (or common law partner) and also cannot have any children. She also cannot have any other family members in Canada.

Also - what do you mean by "distant aunt"?

Before you start filling out any paperwork - you should confirm she can in fact sponsor you (chances are she can't).
 

Dreamcatcher87

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scylla said:
Agreed with the above. Are you sure your aunt can sponsor you? In order to sponsor you she cannot have a husband (or common law partner) and also cannot have any children. She also cannot have any other family members in Canada.

Also - what do you mean by "distant aunt"?

Before you start filling out any paperwork - you should confirm she can in fact sponsor you (chances are she can't).


She can. She talked to Immigration in Canada and I checked on CIC. She is in her 70's and her spouse is deceased. No children, relatives and other family members in Canada. She is my mother's 2nd cousin. It states on CIC that:

If you are related to the person you want to sponsor in another way, you could still sponsor him or her if you do not have one of the following living relatives you could sponsor as a member of the Family Class:

spouse,
common-law or conjugal partner,
son or daughter,
parent,
brother or sister,
grandparent,
uncle or aunt, or
niece or nephew.
You must also not have any relative who is a Canadian citizen, permanent resident or registered Indian.


So i guess it is possible. She is a citizen by the way...

So any suggestions about the paperwork and how to proceed? Thanks!!
 

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I'm not sure you're mothers second cousin is a close enough relative, she would be your third cousin.

I think you are reading it incorrectly, CIC states on http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/sponsor/relatives-apply-who.asp#who_can

Option 2 – Other relative

You can sponsor one relative of any age if:

you do not have a spouse, common-law partner, conjugal partner, or one of the following living relatives you could sponsor instead:
son or daughter,
parent,
grandparent,
brother or sister, or
uncle, aunt, nephew or niece.
Basically you have to be all the family she has left.
 

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Dreamcatcher87 said:
She can. She talked to Immigration in Canada and I checked on CIC. She is in her 70's and her spouse is deceased. No children, relatives and other family members in Canada. She is my mother's 2nd cousin. It states on CIC that:

If you are related to the person you want to sponsor in another way, you could still sponsor him or her if you do not have one of the following living relatives you could sponsor as a member of the Family Class:

spouse,
common-law or conjugal partner,
son or daughter,
parent,
brother or sister,
grandparent,
uncle or aunt, or
niece or nephew.
You must also not have any relative who is a Canadian citizen, permanent resident or registered Indian.

So i guess it is possible. She is a citizen by the way...

So any suggestions about the paperwork and how to proceed? Thanks!!
You certainly try to have your 3rd cousin sponsor you. I honestly think that 3rd cousin relationship may be too far from the family tree for CIC to qualify you as her relative to sponsor.
 

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screech339 said:
You certainly try to have your 3rd cousin sponsor you. I honestly think that 3rd cousin relationship may be too far from the family tree for CIC to qualify you as her relative to sponsor.
Agreed, the line has to be drawn somewhere. I think the OP is going to have to prove some exceptional circumstances in order to have success with this.
 

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kangamoose said:
Agreed, the line has to be drawn somewhere. I think the OP is going to have to prove some exceptional circumstances in order to have success with this.
I think that the OP may have mislead CIC to think they are aunt / nephew when they are actually cousins. A lot of people think "distant aunt" to mean aunt they have not talked in years. Not distant aunt as in cousins.

The "distant aunt" will have to show relationship to to the OP. Once CIC sees that they are actually cousins, more to the point 3rd cousins, they will likely reject the application.

Otherwise people can start sponsoring cousins on the alone clause. Don't think CIC will set a precedent in allowing cousins to be sponsored under "other relatives" clause.
 

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Agreed. A third cousin, twice removed, is not going to be considered an eligible sponsor, IMHO.
 

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screech339 said:
I think that the OP may have mislead CIC to think they are aunt / nephew when they are actually cousins. A lot of people think "distant aunt" to mean aunt they have not talked in years. Not distant aunt as in cousins.

The "distant aunt" will have to prove that this cousin of hers is her nephew. I think application will fail on account of no direct aunt / nephew relationship.
Yeah true, you must have to prove relationship somewhere in the application surely.

And the sponsor in her 70's would have to meet LICO... I would assume that she's retired, I'm not familiar with the pension rates here but it can't be $29,000. That's more than minimum wage working 40 hours a week.
 

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kangamoose said:
Yeah true, you must have to prove relationship somewhere in the application surely.

And the sponsor in her 70's would have to meet LICO... I would assume that she's retired, I'm not familiar with the pension rates here but it can't be $29,000. That's more than minimum wage working 40 hours a week.
You will be surprised that a lot of seniors have a good pension set up (most seniors have define benefits) comparable to those about to retire (defined contribution benefits). I wouldn't be surprised if OP's cousin can actually meet the LICO for 2 people (herself and OP), assuming the OP doesn't have any family of his own.
 

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i think the bigger issue will be the financial situation. Depending on size of the family and a 70 years old most possibly not working, she may not qualify to support the applicants.
 

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i think the bigger issue will be the financial situation. Depending on size of the family and a 70 years old most possibly not working, she may not qualify to support the applicants.
Still a 70 years old might have investment, royalties and pension income to be qualified to support the applicants.
 

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steaky said:
Still a 70 years old might have investment, royalties and pension income to be qualified to support the applicants.
For a family size of 4? She needs a big pension.