CPP-Ottawa

[brightredscream]

No January applicant on the spreadsheet has received a passport request yet, so that's not surprising. ECAS updates typically happen after you receive a communication from CPP-O, so no change is nothing to worry about. It's a long, unpleasant, stressful, annoying, unfair, capricious and unpredictable process. You can do everything right, and CIC will lose stuff, not notice documents you've included, and sit on basically completed applications for months. Canada definitely does not put its best face forward in this process. But there's really nothing you can do but wait...

I think Ecas updating is a myth

 

[lunas]

*crackles knuckles* got my ninja back <3

Your inner ninja....la la la your inner ninja la la la

 

[shortymac]

If you happen to know when you got AOR or mailed your app, I can add that as well.

Would you like to be on the Jan 2013 Outland spreadsheet too?

To Ivan

Sure! We mailed it around Dec 15.

What is a AOR?

 

[shortymac]

You have to understand that there is a strike going on, and you're still in the early stages of you process.
We just received my husband's copy of passport request, and you can see by my timeline how long that took. Ecas still hasn't updated for us, and I don't expect it to in all honesty because it's pretty useless.
Try to be patient and realize this is a waiting game, and there are thousands of people in the same situation

Hug, I'm sorry, I'm just really tired of the whole housewife game and I applied outland on purpose for a much faster processing time but it's being treated almost like an inland case.

 

[brightredscream]

Hug, I'm sorry, I'm just really tired of the whole housewife game and I applied outland on purpose for a much faster processing time but it's being treated almost like an inland case.

The processing time is estimated at a maximum of 12 months.
That is a lot faster than inland.

 

[amikety]

The processing time is estimated at a maximum of 12 months.
That is a lot faster than inland.

12 months isn't the maximum. That means 80% of applications processed take 12 months or less. Some applications will take longer than 12 months even if there is nothing wrong with the application - although usually that 20% requires interviews, needs additional security (which can take a very long time), or are refusals, as refusals take a long time to prepare.

 

[IvanP]

12 months isn't the maximum. That means 80% of applications processed take 12 months or less. Some applications will take longer than 12 months even if there is nothing wrong with the application - although usually that 20% requires interviews, needs additional security (which can take a very long time), or are refusals, as refusals take a long time to prepare.

80% of complete applications. But CIC loses documents and photos all the time, so who knows how many applications are considered not complete because CIC has lost something! To illustrate what this could mean, say you have 250 applications, hypothetically. Assume CIC loses stuff in 20% of cases (50 files), so those are eliminated from the pool of "complete" applications. Of the remaining "complete" 200, 20% require some other kind of investigation (40 files). So, 90 out of 250 files are not included within the 80% statistic. Compare 90/250 with 40/200, and you'll see how CIC's methodology for keeping statistics could substantially sway the numbers in one direction or another.

Numbers are easily manipulated.

 

[amikety]

80% of complete applications. But CIC loses documents and photos all the time, so who knows how many applications are considered not complete because CIC has lost something! To illustrate what this could mean, say you have 250 applications, hypothetically. Assume CIC loses stuff in 20% of cases (50 files), so those are eliminated from the pool of "complete" applications. Of the remaining "complete" 200, 20% require some other kind of investigation (40 files). So, 90 out of 250 files are not included within the 80% statistic. Compare 90/250 with 40/200, and you'll see how CIC's methodology for keeping statistics could substantially sway the numbers in one direction or another.

Numbers are easily manipulated.

Yup, and that includes your PCC and medical. If you don't include it, CIC cannot be held to the processing time on their website - something most people don't understand.

The #1 issue with long applications (in most cases) are the security checks. Some countries in particular don't like to respond in a timely manner. Islamabad isn't 28 months because the VO is slow. It's 28 months because Canada and Pakistan don't have a good working relationship and Pakistan is slow to respond to diplomatic requests. Yet India and Canada have a much better relationship and strangely enough, NDVO is much faster!

Wish people would understand that instead of just hooping and hollaring about CIC.

(NOT in your case, Ivan......)

 

[brightredscream]

Whoops...my bad, thanks for the clarification ???

 

[shanmba1174]

Hope it's COPR

Email response from CPP.Ottawa

Your application has been finalized and your document is now being returned to you.
If you have included a prepaid Xpresspost return envelope, your document has been returned using this envelope. If you did not provide a prepaid Xpresspost return envelope, your document has been returned to you by regular mail

 

[brightredscream]

When you receive COPR, how long do they usually give you to land?

 

[rsjkd427]

I think Ecas updating is a myth

I agree. What is this ECAS update you speak of?? hehe

 

[brightredscream]

The only Ecas update I've ever had was for the sponsorship side of things...
My husband's side still shows application received.

 

[rsjkd427]

The only Ecas update I've ever had was for the sponsorship side of things...
My husband's side still shows application received.

I know, same here. My husband received sponsorship approval Oct 1, 2012, but my side has not been updated since. I received PPR Feb 8, 2013 and still says app received.

 

[brightredscream]

Why bother having something that's not utilized? It's such a waste

And damn, you've been waiting for COPR for a while!