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Child tax benefit outside of Canada?

CanadaKid23

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Unless your stepfather was a stay-at-home dad, it is almost certain that the benefit was originally applied for and was being received in your mother's name. That is just how the system works.

It would have been fairly simple for your stepfather to files her taxes along with his, especially as she would have had no income to be declared.
Hey guys sorry about the delay. Thanks for your response. I spoke to Mom last night. She says if she remembers correctly, it really was on her name. She didn't exercise her due diligence in the sense that she trusted my stepfather because she asked him if everything like that was taken care of and he assured her that it was but he obviously unfortunately had other intentions to the tune of approximately $35,000 over the 6 years he was illegally collecting the money. Again, he's aware of the situation because he hasn't gone back to Canada since. So basically there's no recourse in the legal sense?? The only way she can get him to bear some of it is if he voluntarily pays it, which isn't going to happen because as I said I've personally experienced his greed and if you can do that to your wife or even steal from your child, you obviously lack the moral capacity to handle something like that.
 

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Hey guys sorry about the delay. Thanks for your response. I spoke to Mom last night. She says if she remembers correctly, it really was on her name. She didn't exercise her due diligence in the sense that she trusted my stepfather because she asked him if everything like that was taken care of and he assured her that it was but he obviously unfortunately had other intentions to the tune of approximately $35,000 over the 6 years he was illegally collecting the money. Again, he's aware of the situation because he hasn't gone back to Canada since. So basically there's no recourse in the legal sense?? The only way she can get him to bear some of it is if he voluntarily pays it, which isn't going to happen because as I said I've personally experienced his greed and if you can do that to your wife or even steal from your child, you obviously lack the moral capacity to handle something like that.
Unfortunately, she has no recourse against CRA. It was in her name and she can't prove that it was him doing it.

She could try to file a claim against him wherever he is or claim it in the divorce.
 

cracicot

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Jun 26, 2017
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Ok,

So am a Canadian citizen and moved to Spain in 2013. My kids were born in Spain in 2014 and I just moved back to Canada in April 2017. I know that I should get the benefits for my children for April, May, June and upcoming July once they approve the proof of birth, etc. Since I dont yet have employment, the benefits should be maxed since my global income for 2015/16 was NIL since I was raising the children while my Spanish wife worked. Her income was much less than $30k, so it should be max per month.

All that I understand.

What I am trying to understand is why they need the 2015 income info for my wife if they will not be paying me for any of the years outside of Canada. I understand they need the 2016 income info for her to determine the payment for 2017. From what I understand from this board is that they wont be paying me for anything before moving back to Canada even though I am a deemed resident for tax purposes. I get that the important wording is for tax purposes. I did file my taxes for 2014/15/16 and stated I was not living in Canada and had to input any global income. the logic says that if I have to pay Canadian taxes while living abroad, I should receive benefits. It just does not make sense to have to pay taxes as a Canadian citizen and not receive benefits. Anyways, whether I get it prior to 2017 or not is not really important. What is important is that they start to receive them now. I just wanted the final word on what happens because I see two different answers.
 

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Ok,

So am a Canadian citizen and moved to Spain in 2013. My kids were born in Spain in 2014 and I just moved back to Canada in April 2017. I know that I should get the benefits for my children for April, May, June and upcoming July once they approve the proof of birth, etc. Since I dont yet have employment, the benefits should be maxed since my global income for 2015/16 was NIL since I was raising the children while my Spanish wife worked. Her income was much less than $30k, so it should be max per month.

All that I understand.

What I am trying to understand is why they need the 2015 income info for my wife if they will not be paying me for any of the years outside of Canada. I understand they need the 2016 income info for her to determine the payment for 2017. From what I understand from this board is that they wont be paying me for anything before moving back to Canada even though I am a deemed resident for tax purposes. I get that the important wording is for tax purposes. I did file my taxes for 2014/15/16 and stated I was not living in Canada and had to input any global income. the logic says that if I have to pay Canadian taxes while living abroad, I should receive benefits. It just does not make sense to have to pay taxes as a Canadian citizen and not receive benefits. Anyways, whether I get it prior to 2017 or not is not really important. What is important is that they start to receive them now. I just wanted the final word on what happens because I see two different answers.
Child benefit is assessed every July based on the previous taxation year. You are still in the July 2016 assessment period, so the amount to be received from April 2017 to July 2017 is based on 2015 income. The benefit will then be re-assessed in July 2017 and payments after that will be based on 2016 income.
 

cracicot

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Child benefit is assessed every July based on the previous taxation year. You are still in the July 2016 assessment period, so the amount to be received from April 2017 to July 2017 is based on 2015 income. The benefit will then be re-assessed in July 2017 and payments after that will be based on 2016 income.

So based on what i have read, as long as i am not classified as a non - resident i can claim benefits from the time my children were born in 2014.
 

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So based on what i have read, as long as i am not classified as a non - resident i can claim benefits from the time my children were born in 2014.
What significant ties did you maintain to Canada during your 4 years living in another country to still be considered a tax resident?
 

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Bank accounts, personal items and furniture. Provincial corporation.
Those aren't really significant ties. Before claiming any benefits from your time outside of Canada, I suggest you contact CRA to verify your residency status during that time.
 

cracicot

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Those aren't really significant ties. Before claiming any benefits from your time outside of Canada, I suggest you contact CRA to verify your residency status during that time.
thanks for the advice. I was planning on doing that in the first place. I just did not want to waste my time doing it if there was absolutely no chance in the first place. Hence, the reason for the post here. First and foremost, I will be receiving the benefits from the time I landed here in Canada this year. If I am eligible for anything before that, then I'm going to get it. But yes, I will be talking to CRA to make sure I am eligible or not.
 

irynas

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Hi have the question: If Canadian family of 6 members including 3 kids under 17 years old left Canada for several years for US. At the same time they left 1 child-student in Canada as well as residential house for her which previously were rented. The rest of assets were sold, but the bank accounts and credit cads remain in Canada.
The family continue to file personal tax returns as factual residents of Canada without claiming UCCB and CCTB. Are they eligible to receive those benefits during the time when they are abroad?
Thank you
 

torontosm

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Hi have the question: If Canadian family of 6 members including 3 kids under 17 years old left Canada for several years for US. At the same time they left 1 child-student in Canada as well as residential house for her which previously were rented. The rest of assets were sold, but the bank accounts and credit cads remain in Canada.
The family continue to file personal tax returns as factual residents of Canada without claiming UCCB and CCTB. Are they eligible to receive those benefits during the time when they are abroad?
Thank you
No, the parents and the child must both be residing in Canada to be eligible.
 

FilipFilipov

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Jul 14, 2017
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Hello Everyone ,

Sorry to bring the old thread back to life , but I have a few questions. Me and my wife , are Canadian citizens , both of my daughters are born in Canada. She left with the kids approximately two months ago , for a vacation. During those two months I was laid off from work, and at this point we decided for them to stay back in our homeland , and wait until I find a job. I`m keeping all of her accounts , and also we do have some furniture's left in here. I was wondering if she would still be considered as a resident of Canada , thus receiving the CCB for both of our children's.

I`m actively looking for a job , but at the end of the day what if I do not find anything , and bring them in , that will be considered a big mistake. So I was thinking if might still be illegible for the CCB.
Thank you in advance.
 

PMM

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Hi


Hello Everyone ,

Sorry to bring the old thread back to life , but I have a few questions. Me and my wife , are Canadian citizens , both of my daughters are born in Canada. She left with the kids approximately two months ago , for a vacation. During those two months I was laid off from work, and at this point we decided for them to stay back in our homeland , and wait until I find a job. I`m keeping all of her accounts , and also we do have some furniture's left in here. I was wondering if she would still be considered as a resident of Canada , thus receiving the CCB for both of our children's.

I`m actively looking for a job , but at the end of the day what if I do not find anything , and bring them in , that will be considered a big mistake. So I was thinking if might still be illegible for the CCB.
Thank you in advance.

1. No, the children are not resident in Canada, so no CCB
 

raaz23

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Apr 29, 2012
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Hi
one of my friend came Canada to give entry as PR resident and then after one month he left
now since 7 months he is out of Canada while taking PR for him nd family
still he will continue taking Child benefit while he just stayed a month here
 

canuck78

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Hi
one of my friend came Canada to give entry as PR resident and then after one month he left
now since 7 months he is out of Canada while taking PR for him nd family
still he will continue taking Child benefit while he just stayed a month here
Your friend is committing fraud.