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Child tax benefit outside of Canada?

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i would like to ask some doubts.
1, i am planning to go for vacation for one year from outside canada, should i inform CRA regarding my vacation.
2, if i dont inform is there any serious problem
3, do i still i get my CCTB for that period , am the primary responsible for the kids and both kids are staying with me.
4, my spouse filed my TAX for the period of 2014 and 2015, even though am not employed
5, what are other things which i should worried about
kindly reply from all experts or who had any similar situations
1 year is a bit too long to be considered a vacation in Canada. It would be safer to inform CRA of your travel plans so in case they feel like stopping your CCTB, they can do it and you wont have to worry about getting caught and having to repay if you didn't tell them and they somehow found out.

As long as you still keep a home in Canada and have not asked CRA to consider you a non-resident for tax purposes, you should continue to file taxes.

Another concern is health care. In most cases, you lose your health care if you leave your province for that long and you would have to let them know that you are leaving and if you live in a province with a waiting period, you re-do the waiting period when you come back. That goes for your kids as well. Therefore it is important that you talk to your health care to prevent any misunderstanding and if you have a waiting period coming back before you are covered, you should get temporary insurance for you and your kids in case there is an emergency.
 

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k thank you.... i will inform CRA.. am unemployed right now and i will taking care of my kids but with out any job and my spouse is paying taxes .does it mean i will get my CCTB
 

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hello, i am going through same face, landed in canada in 2015, filed for child care, but after 2 months went back to home country, I received payment till 2016 may. then it was stopped.now i am planning to return.they sent me a letter om my old canadian address that they are stopping payment and advised that if somebody is giving wrong information about residency status then penalty may be applied.I have not given any wrong information as when i filed for benefits i was in canada. what should i do now.should i call them and tell everything?what will be outcome.i m planning to return canada.Please help.If you can please give me your number it will be very helpful.
 

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sharmausct said:
hello, i am going through same face, landed in canada in 2015, filed for child care, but after 2 months went back to home country, I received payment till 2016 may. then it was stopped.now i am planning to return.they sent me a letter om my old canadian address that they are stopping payment and advised that if somebody is giving wrong information about residency status then penalty may be applied.I have not given any wrong information as when i filed for benefits i was in canada. what should i do now.should i call them and tell everything?what will be outcome.i m planning to return canada.Please help.If you can please give me your number it will be very helpful.
1. As others have stated, as soon as the child left Canada, you were no longer eligible and should have stopped the benefit. So now you will be faced with re-paying the amount from when you left, plus interest.
 

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I have not given any wrong information as when i filed for benefits i was in canada.
You have given wrong information by not reporting that your child left Canada in 2015. Sooner or later you will need to rectify this. The CRA will then most likely ask you to pay back the overpayments (plus interest). These payments can be made in instalments. Once they ask you for the money you can talk to them to organize instalments.
 

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I have been outside canada for 70 days. Am eligible for child benefits.????Do I have to repay for this period???
 

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I have been outside canada for 70 days. Am eligible for child benefits.????Do I have to repay for this period???
I'm not sure why this is so complicated...if you aren't living in Canada, you aren't eligible. And if you receive benefits you aren't eligible for, you will need to repay them.
 

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I'm not sure why this is so complicated...if you aren't living in Canada, you aren't eligible. And if you receive benefits you aren't eligible for, you will need to repay them.
Some people thin PR / citizenship of Canada means free money anywhere in the world.
 
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Some people thin PR / citizenship of Canada means free money anywhere in the world.
Agreed. It's that "Everything is free in Canada" belief that everyone has. It's not FREE! Health care isn't free, child benefits aren't free, social assistance isn't free! It's paid for by taxpayers and you're screwing the system! As a taxpayer, it annoys me.
 
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I'm not sure why this is so complicated...if you aren't living in Canada, you aren't eligible. And if you receive benefits you aren't eligible for, you will need to repay them.
Hey guys good morning. Sorry for bumping this thread but it has proven to be very informative thus far. This is a bit lengthy so please bear with me.

My mother and adopted father both obtained Canadian citizenship over 20 years ago. They lived and met in Canada around the same length of time. I was born in Canada along with my 2 younger siblings so my parents, naturally, were able to claim for the Child Benefit. In 2007, the entire family packed up everything and left the country. My siblings and were all under the age of 18 at the time (the youngest turned 18 in 2015), but obviously we would not qualify for the Benefit as we were no longer residing in Canada or so we thought because this is where it gets interesting.
My stepfather used to travel back to Canada annually to file his taxes to make it seem as though he was still living there (because as I learned through this forum one must inform CRA of the intentions to leave the country) and thus he was able to illegally collect the money through means unknown to me or my family (mother included). My parents separated (but were still legally married) in 2009 and my mother subsequently returned to Canada in January 2013. While renewing her Health Card and other documents, THAT was when the authorities realized that we weren't in the country for the past 6 years (at that point in time). Due to them being married at the time of application for the benefit as well as the departure from Canada and her being the only one in the Canada, she was made to repay the fraudulently received monies (to the tune of CAD $XX,000) in installments. My mother is not well so she doesn't work so whatever monies she receives by virtue of tax returns etc. the CRA takes back from that.

My stepfather is well aware of the situation and as a result he hasn't gone back to Canada since. My mother recently returned to our country on a brief trip to meet her first grandchild and upon her return my corrupted stepfather served her with divorce papers. When she goes through with the divorce proceedings what recourse does she have in terms of getting him to pay back the money since HE was the one accessing it illegally? It would seem strange that she had no idea of what went on in the 2 years they lived together down here, but after being personally affected by his lack of morals and ethics and his affinity for fraud and other people's monies, I can vouch for the authenticity. A lawyer told me that perhaps she can liaise with Interpol in Canada to issue a warrant for his arrest down here and make him answer the charges for the fraud. Can anyone of the brilliant minds on this thread assist? Much appreciated.
 

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I think your mother's best bet is to have her lawyer include this financial consideration in the divorce proceedings. I don't think Canada will issue an arrest warrant for him. They will hold both your mother and stepfather responsible jointly.
 
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I think your mother's best bet is to have her lawyer include this financial consideration in the divorce proceedings. I don't think Canada will issue an arrest warrant for him. They will hold both your mother and stepfather responsible jointly.
Understood. At least this is a step in the right direction, as she's currently the only one being held responsible for the repayment while the excuse of a man relaxes thinking he's safe from the reaches of the Canadian Gov't. Thanks for your response. Anyone else??
 

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Due to them being married at the time of application for the benefit as well as the departure from Canada and her being the only one in the Canada, she was made to repay the fraudulently received monies (to the tune of CAD $XX,000) in installments. My mother is not well so she doesn't work so whatever monies she receives by virtue of tax returns etc. the CRA takes back from that.

My stepfather is well aware of the situation and as a result he hasn't gone back to Canada since. My mother recently returned to our country on a brief trip to meet her first grandchild and upon her return my corrupted stepfather served her with divorce papers. When she goes through with the divorce proceedings what recourse does she have in terms of getting him to pay back the money since HE was the one accessing it illegally? It would seem strange that she had no idea of what went on in the 2 years they lived together down here, but after being personally affected by his lack of morals and ethics and his affinity for fraud and other people's monies, I can vouch for the authenticity. A lawyer told me that perhaps she can liaise with Interpol in Canada to issue a warrant for his arrest down here and make him answer the charges for the fraud. Can anyone of the brilliant minds on this thread assist? Much appreciated.
Only one parent can apply for Child Benefit. CRA generally considers the female parent to be the applicant, so when you guys were actually living in Canada and qualified, it was most likely your mom that was the applicant. Your mother needed to inform CRA of her departure, which would have stopped the benefit being issued in her name. Your stepfather could have only resumed it by forging an application in her name or applying in his own name, which would have required a note from your mother stating he was primarily responsible for the children.

It is an individual's responsibility to inform CRA when they move out of Canada. Most likely, your mother didn't inform CRA of her departure, so the benefit continued to be issued in her name when your stepfather filed their Canadian taxes. That would mean that she is liable for paying all of the money back.

An international arrest warrant will not be issued for your stepfather. He is a small fish in the world of tax fraud.
 

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Only one parent can apply for Child Benefit. CRA generally considers the female parent to be the applicant, so when you guys were actually living in Canada and qualified, it was most likely your mom that was the applicant. Your mother needed to inform CRA of her departure, which would have stopped the benefit being issued in her name. Your stepfather could have only resumed it by forging an application in her name or applying in his own name, which would have required a note from your mother stating he was primarily responsible for the children.

It is an individual's responsibility to inform CRA when they move out of Canada. Most likely, your mother didn't inform CRA of her departure, so the benefit continued to be issued in her name when your stepfather filed their Canadian taxes. That would mean that she is liable for paying all of the money back.

An international arrest warrant will not be issued for your stepfather. He is a small fish in the world of tax fraud.
Understood. She told me it was in his name, because she asked him about the money and if the payments would be stopping and he said yes. She genuinely had no idea he was still collecting the money. Additionally, she told me that prior to when she went back up in 2013, the last time she filed taxes was in 2007 before they came down and she didnt go back to Canada before 2013 but when she was talking to the person who assisted her in renewing her Health Card, they said they saw taxes filed for her up to 2010 or 2011 and that the money had been withdrawn from the account up to the month before she went back up.
 

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Understood. She told me it was in his name, because she asked him about the money and if the payments would be stopping and he said yes. She genuinely had no idea he was still collecting the money. Additionally, she told me that prior to when she went back up in 2013, the last time she filed taxes was in 2007 before they came down and she didnt go back to Canada before 2013 but when she was talking to the person who assisted her in renewing her Health Card, they said they saw taxes filed for her up to 2010 or 2011 and that the money had been withdrawn from the account up to the month before she went back up.
Unless your stepfather was a stay-at-home dad, it is almost certain that the benefit was originally applied for and was being received in your mother's name. That is just how the system works.

It would have been fairly simple for your stepfather to files her taxes along with his, especially as she would have had no income to be declared.