Challenging situation…PGP Program vs Refugee claim

[CoolUk2]

Hello everyone,

In a tricky situation. When my mother came to Canada a few years ago, we submitted her refugee claim and have been waiting for a hearing date.

I did not know this but my brother had received an invitation to apply for PGP and submitted the application to sponsor her. He was in the 2020 pool.

Will the refugee claim be cancelled or vice versa? If we withdraw she would be out of status while waiting for the sponsorship.

My brother should not have applied but it’s done and we’re not sure what to do. Just wait it out?

 

[Naturgrl]

Hello everyone,

In a tricky situation. When my mother came to Canada a few years ago, we submitted her refugee claim and have been waiting for a hearing date.

I did not know this but my brother had received an invitation to apply for PGP and submitted the application to sponsor her. He was in the 2020 pool.

Will the refugee claim be cancelled or vice versa? If we withdraw she would be out of status while waiting for the sponsorship.

My brother should not have applied but it’s done and we’re not sure what to do. Just wait it out?

When did your mother get invitation to apply for PGP? When did she apply for PR because she would have know about it and didn't tell you? Your brother did nothing wrong as submitting and getting PGP is the better way then claiming aslyum. Should be thanking him for submitting a profile in 2020.

 

[scylla]

Hello everyone,

In a tricky situation. When my mother came to Canada a few years ago, we submitted her refugee claim and have been waiting for a hearing date.

I did not know this but my brother had received an invitation to apply for PGP and submitted the application to sponsor her. He was in the 2020 pool.

Will the refugee claim be cancelled or vice versa? If we withdraw she would be out of status while waiting for the sponsorship.

My brother should not have applied but it’s done and we’re not sure what to do. Just wait it out?

She should absolutely not withdraw the refugee application. If she does this, this will activate a removal order. Having the PGP application in progress would not be guaranteed to prevent her from being removed from Canada.

She is classified as being in Canada without status as a result of the refugee claim. You need to speak with an immigration lawyer to find out whether PR can be granted to her through the PGP program while she is in Canada without status. That is the key question.

 

[CoolUk2]

When did your mother get invitation to apply for PGP? When did she apply for PR because she would have know about it and didn't tell you? Your brother did nothing wrong as submitting and getting PGP is the better way then claiming aslyum. Should be thanking him for submitting a profile in 2020.

Brother expressed interest in 2020 and was selected in May 2024. He submitted the application within the deadline. My mother is elderly so we take care of her applications and government related things. I don’t speak to my brother often and he did not tell the family he was sponsoring our mother.

We’re worried that the PGP may be cancelled because of the refugee claim which would be devastating given how hard it is to be selected.

Is the only option to withdraw and have her return to our home country whilst the PGP is being processed? The PGP is much easier to obtain vs going through the refugee claim and we have a higher chance of success.

 

[Naturgrl]

Brother expressed interest in 2020 and was selected in May 2024. He submitted the application within the deadline. My mother is elderly so we take care of her applications and government related things. I don’t speak to my brother often and he did not tell the family he was sponsoring our mother.

We’re worried that the PGP may be cancelled because of the refugee claim which would be devastating given how hard it is to be selected.

Is the only option to withdraw and have her return to our home country whilst the PGP is being processed? The PGP is much easier to obtain vs going through the refugee claim and we have a higher chance of success.

Your mother would have signed the application, completed the medical, given all information to complete so she would have know about it. You too if you say "we take care of her applications." Don't cancel either.

 

[scylla]

Brother expressed interest in 2020 and was selected in May 2024. He submitted the application within the deadline. My mother is elderly so we take care of her applications and government related things. I don’t speak to my brother often and he did not tell the family he was sponsoring our mother.

We’re worried that the PGP may be cancelled because of the refugee claim which would be devastating given how hard it is to be selected.

Is the only option to withdraw and have her return to our home country whilst the PGP is being processed? The PGP is much easier to obtain vs going through the refugee claim and we have a higher chance of success.

As mentioned earlier, speak with a lawyer to understand what your options are before you do anything. This is a unique situation.

 

[canuck78]

Brother expressed interest in 2020 and was selected in May 2024. He submitted the application within the deadline. My mother is elderly so we take care of her applications and government related things. I don’t speak to my brother often and he did not tell the family he was sponsoring our mother.

We’re worried that the PGP may be cancelled because of the refugee claim which would be devastating given how hard it is to be selected.

Is the only option to withdraw and have her return to our home country whilst the PGP is being processed? The PGP is much easier to obtain vs going through the refugee claim and we have a higher chance of success.

How exactly has your brother been sponsoring your mother without you finding out until recently? At this point a medical has likely been requested for the PGP application and your mother’s signature and other information would have been required. How has this been possible if you have minimal communication with your brother? He is also sponsoring her not you. Do you live in the same city? Has she been visiting and then staying with your brother as well waiting news regarding her asylum claim? The government cracking down on who can apply for asylum can’t come soon enough. It is not a substitute for PGP and costs taxpayers a small fortune everytime people file unnecessary applications or applications with no grounds. You should actually be thanking your brother for applying for PGP which is the only true way to sponsor a parent.

 

[CoolUk2]

How exactly has your brother been sponsoring your mother without you finding out until recently? At this point a medical has likely been requested for the PGP application and your mother’s signature and other information would have been required. How has this been possible if you have minimal communication with your brother? He is also sponsoring her not you. Do you live in the same city? Has she been visiting and then staying with your brother as well waiting news regarding her asylum claim? The government cracking down on who can apply for asylum can’t come soon enough. It is not a substitute for PGP and costs taxpayers a small fortune everytime people file unnecessary applications or applications with no grounds. You should actually be thanking your brother for applying for PGP which is the only true way to sponsor a parent.

To clarify, he submitted the application and it’s still being processed and from what I’m being told hasn’t progressed much…also my mother has a genuine refugee claim otherwise the lawyer that helped us file the claim initially would not have done so if there was no merit. Unfortunately the lawyer closed down her practice to join another firm leaving us to manage the claim until we find another lawyer. I don’t think it’s fair to assume that we are cheating the system when we’re not. It just so happens that he got selected but did not tell us anything as we live very far from each other.

 

[canuck78]

To clarify, he submitted the application and it’s still being processed and from what I’m being told hasn’t progressed much…also my mother has a genuine refugee claim otherwise the lawyer that helped us file the claim initially would not have done so if there was no merit. Unfortunately the lawyer closed down her practice to join another firm leaving us to manage the claim until we find another lawyer. I don’t think it’s fair to assume that we are cheating the system when we’re not. It just so happens that he got selected but did not tell us anything as we live very far from each other.

Sadly many lawyer will file asylum claims with no grounds so that doesn’t mean much. A lawyer closing down their firm and joining another one does not require dropping their clients. If you have not been in communication with your brother and your mother is currently living with you and not with your brother how did you actually find out about the PGP. Is your brother prepared to have your mother live with him? At this point your mother and brother would have had to submit her application, likely completed her medical, etc. for the PGP if you are only recently finding out about the PGP selection how was that possible?

 

[ref19to22]

To clarify, he submitted the application and it’s still being processed and from what I’m being told hasn’t progressed much…also my mother has a genuine refugee claim otherwise the lawyer that helped us file the claim initially would not have done so if there was no merit. Unfortunately the lawyer closed down her practice to join another firm leaving us to manage the claim until we find another lawyer. I don’t think it’s fair to assume that we are cheating the system when we’re not. It just so happens that he got selected but did not tell us anything as we live very far from each other.

I will second that you **should not** withdraw your mother's refugee claim AND **you should** talk to a lawyer about your unique circumstance- no one in this forum will give you better advise than that.

And ignore people in this thread questioning your intention and situation, they often like to rant about their shitty politics through veiled comments that have nothing to do with the question asked. It's tired.