Bill C-6: Senate stage

[CANADIANZ]

linda yesterday mentioned that in usa 5 years , immigrant must spend 30 months only full and next 30 months must not exit usa more that 6 months something like that , much easier

she compared canada the north pole -42 to france to swiss to uk

If immigrants had chance to immigrate legally to these countries, they will not come to canada

If canada stop the welfare , family aid , every one will leave even born in canada

Wake up linda

She is just scoring political points.. baseless comparison. These countries have different laws and she is presenting alternative face..

A PR in UK a.k.a ‘indefinite leave to remain’ can apply for British Citizenship after 12 months NOT 5 years.

 

[vasyok]

She's absolutely right. I immigrated to UK and was very satisfied about the whole experience. Then I came to Canada, huge mistake and regretted. That's why I'm leaving. It's a very costly life lesson for me.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence...

 

[disha_kaur]

Can someone please explain again what is this new 183 day amend?

Basically if this is passed then what would be the qualification criteria for citizenship?

 

[vasyok]

She is just scoring political points.. baseless comparison. These countries have different laws and she is presenting alternative face..

A PR in UK a.k.a ‘indefinite leave to remain’ can apply for British Citizenship after 12 months NOT 5 years.

This page (https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen/check-if-you-can-apply) disagrees with you:

"lived in the UK for at least the 5 years before the date of your application"

 

[canadasucks]

This page (https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen/check-if-you-can-apply) disagrees with you:

"lived in the UK for at least the 5 years before the date of your application"

Bear in mind, when UK says 5 years, you are allowed to absent 450 days within that 5 years. So actual physical residency requirement is actually 3.75/5, even less than 4/6. Actually all other countries such as US, AU, NZ and all EU countries use the same method. Canadian method is actually very misleading, give the expression that it requires less residency than other countries in order to compete for immigrants but actually it's not true.

 

[CANADIANZ]

This page (https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen/check-if-you-can-apply) disagrees with you:

"lived in the UK for at least the 5 years before the date of your application"

I said 12 months after Indefinite leave to remain.

True spent total of 5 years. But just 12 months after PR = indefinite leave to remain (ILR)

Read this line from the page:
had settlement (‘indefinite leave to remain’) in the UK for the last 12 months.

Keep in mind that a lot of people specially students, foreign workers, conventional refugees spend average of 5 years in Canada as lawful residents BEFORE getting PR status...

 

[Hey]

Guys on twitter please make sure to tag JT or minister Ahmad CIC

 

[CANADIANZ]

Guys on twitter please make sure to tag JT or minister Ahmad CIC

I tagged them in most of tweets,,, no reply or any kind of message/retweet from them.

 

[_MK_]

Three years would be enough if 182.5 can be rounded up as the way before C-24.

Only if you stayed in Canada for 365 days. If you left Canada for even 1 day...

 

[ameet747]

I see no reason to discuss UK's citizenship rules here. Yes, UK does ask you to be on ILR (aka PR) status for only 12 months before applying for citizenship; however, getting PR in the UK is way tougher than Canada at the moment. So there are both pros & cons. I know this from personal experience, having lived & worked in the UK for almost 4 years. The very reason that immigrants choose Canada (most of them) is because immigration policies of UK, US, Europe, etc are much tougher.

Now let's get back to the main topic of this thread: Bill C-6 in CANADIAN Senate, for CANADIAN citizenship. Peace.

 

[MKColin]

Who cares other countries policy? Different population, different economy facts, different politics....everything different..crazy! She should weight the situation in Canada...the population...jobs....plans...within Canada!

I see no reason to discuss UK's citizenship rules here. Yes, UK does ask you to be on ILR (aka PR) status for only 12 months before applying for citizenship; however, getting PR in the UK is way tougher than Canada at the moment. So there are both pros & cons. I know this from personal experience, having lived & worked in the UK for almost 4 years. The very reason that immigrants choose Canada (most of them) is because immigration policies of UK, US, Europe, etc are much tougher.

Now let's get back to the main topic of this thread: Bill C-6 in CANADIAN Senate, for CANADIAN citizenship. Peace.

 

[canadasucks]

I said 12 months after Indefinite leave to remain.

True spent total of 5 years. But just 12 months after PR = indefinite leave to remain (ILR)

You got it. Using Canadian language, in UK the time lived before PR (except students) can all be counted towards citizenship.

That's why Canadian method to count residency is very misleading. Most people think Canada is the easiest country to immigrant and get citizenship. That's just Canada's propaganda to give people false impression. Actually most countries are more easier and their passports are also more valuable. For example, any EU country's citizenship give you freedom of movement to another 30 countries and opportunities among 7 billion population.

 

[CANADIANZ]

If we agree with Sen Linda who is comparing other countries residency requirements;

In my opinion anyone who is living here and calls Canada home for 5+ years should be eligible to apply citizenship.

Why international students, foreign workers or conventional refugees suffer for years to apply for PR and then count only post-PR time?

Just an opinion.. Now back to the topic... This bill will likely take at-least an year from today to pass to chill guys.

 

[CANADIANZ]

You got it. Using Canadian language, in UK the time lived before PR (except students) can all be counted towards citizenship.

That's why Canadian method to count residency is very misleading. Most people think Canada is the easiest country to immigrant and get citizenship. That's just Canada's propaganda to give people false impression. Actually most countries are more easier and their passports are also more valuable. For example, any EU country's citizenship give you freedom of movement to another 30 countries.

+1

 

[jsm0085]

Other countries are being discussed as LF used them as examples to suggest the period of residency should be longer in Canada - without taking into account time prior to PR. So it's very relevant to the amendment and the justification.

Tagging JT or immigration minister won't help - they will not get involved until the bill returns to the HoC.