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Bill C-6: Senate stage

jsm0085 said:
Did you hear the same senator, or others, say the same about C6? No. C4 is a different bill.
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The Senator who spoke on the out of scope motion regarding an amendment to C4 specifically referred to the many amendments to bill C6 which she sees as a problem.
 
jsm0085 said:
I didn't say there was. But again - the senate shouldn't be quiet just to appease the impatient 3/5 crew. We have a date. Wait.
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Senate can ask government to improve their process rather than putting every single pieces in the legislation.
 
spyfy said:
The Senator who spoke on the out of scope motion regarding an amendment to C4 specifically referred to the many amendments to bill C6 which she sees as a problem.
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She made reference - but at any time, she or others can raise an objection specifically to C6. They haven't and they aren't going to regarding this amendment because it's vital. It's a protection for children under the care of the state - come on.
 
All this time wasting amendments should be shelved. What is needed is a time allocation and I think it's time that Harder starts utilizing tools he has. The conservatives utilized this a lot for bills past during their tenure and I don't see why the Libs can't. At this point the NDP seem to be the sensible ones, can't wait for the next election
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/pp549.wordpress.com/2012/07/29/the-facts-about-canadian-conservatives-love-of-time-allocation/amp/
 
spyfy said:
Have you followed the debate on C-4 earlier today? There was a Senator who openly admitted that she feels amendments are starting to get out of scope on the regular by now, but that she didn't dare to raise that point earlier. The Senate can amend anything. But they should use their powers responsibly.
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I did - the question RE point of order is not 'out of scope' or not --- the cons proposed an amendment that reverted the repeal proposed in C-4. Sen McCoy believes that one cannot revert the bill once it passed the 2nd reading, so she asked the speaker to rule on that. The pending decision has nothing to do with 'out of scope' issue.
 
razerblade said:
Vote on Oh's amendment at 6:42 today. here's hoping it fails
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It will pass based on the debate - and it should.
 
jsm0085 said:
It will pass based on the debate - and it should.
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Harder said the govt. doesn't support this amendment. Doesn't that mean that there is a high chance HoC will reject it ? Then the bill will come back to Senate. To avoid this ping pong, it should not pass.
 
razerblade said:
Harder said the govt. doesn't support this amendment. Doesn't that mean that high chance HoC will reject it ? Then the bill will come back to Senate. To avoid this ping pong, it should not pass.
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Doubtful considering lib senators are backing it but, anything is possible. It will however pass the Senate.
 
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