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Arrima Applications - Invited in 2019 by MIDI

Nikedev

Star Member
Jul 14, 2014
100
4
All, Kindly stay optimistic and motivated, I received my CSQ yesterday.

Timeline :
Mon Projet Quebec 2018 applicant, request closed by bill 9 in June 2019.

2018-03-14 : CSQ Submission
2019-06-XX : Bill 9 closure - Request closed
2019-07-02 : Arrima submission
2019-08-19 : Arrima - Invitation to submit
2019-09-10 : Arrima - Acceptance of the invitation
2019-09-09 : Mon Projet Quebec submission (#1050+)
2020-01-24 : Docs send with Valid Job offer for consideration
2020-02-06 : Mon Projet Docs request
2020-02-24 : Docs sent
2020-02-27 : Docs acknowledgment
2020-05-21 : CSQ
 
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memdan

Star Member
Feb 5, 2013
52
18
All, Kindly stay optimistic and motivated, I received my CSQ yesterday.

Timeline :
Mon Projet Quebec 2018 applicant, request closed by bill 9 in June 2019.

2018-03-14 : CSQ Submission
2019-06-XX : Bill 9 closure - Request closed
2019-07-02 : Arrima submission
2019-08-19 : Arrima - Invitation to submit
2019-09-10 : Arrima - Acceptance of the invitation
2019-09-09 : Mon Projet Quebec submission (#1050+)
2020-01-24 : Docs send with Valid Job offer for consideration
2020-02-06 : Mon Projet Docs request
2020-02-24 : Docs sent
2020-02-27 : Docs acknowledgment
2020-05-21 : CSQ
Many Congratulations
 

memdan

Star Member
Feb 5, 2013
52
18
Today I called to Immigration Office. Officer told me that 6 month starts from the "time of invitation in ARRIMA". But due to previous backlog applications they are late. But with the passage of time, they will process application within 6 month after the ARRIMA invitation.
So, they are many applicants who were invited in 19Aug2019, are still waiting for CSQ including me. Hope, they are doing fast to finish the backlog.
 

Nikos1978

Star Member
Jan 8, 2020
187
56
Quebec - Quebec City
Today I called to Immigration Office. Officer told me that 6 month starts from the "time of invitation in ARRIMA". But due to previous backlog applications they are late. But with the passage of time, they will process application within 6 month after the ARRIMA invitation.
So, they are many applicants who were invited in 19Aug2019, are still waiting for CSQ including me. Hope, they are doing fast to finish the backlog.
:D backlog applications... They destroyed all the backlog with bill9...
They have always good excuses... They're just lazy
And the 6 months period begins when they have all documents

A good advice : Don't waste your time calling them
 

memdan

Star Member
Feb 5, 2013
52
18
:D backlog applications... They destroyed all the backlog with bill9...
They have always good excuses... They're just lazy
And the 6 months period begins when they have all documents

A good advice : Don't waste your time calling them
I understand your frustration because i am also a victim of Bill 9. I applied in july 2017 and they destroyed all application in 2019. I agree with your advice. If anybody has chance of PR other than Quebec, avail it. Dont waste time.
 

PetersAdrian

Star Member
Apr 20, 2020
90
17
I have been going thru some of the previous posts regarding Bill 9 victims & the new Arrima system. Let me try to chime in with my opinionated opinion :)

My profile: I was previously on H1B in the US and because of my country of birth, I will never be getting a green card in my lifetime, so I immediately accepted a job offer by a small but specialized software company in Quebec and they did my LMIA and I & my spouse landed in 2016's end.
I learned some French by immersion, nowhere fluent. I am working fulltime and spouse is too. My NOC is 2173.

I applied for CSQ early 2017 and unlucky me, illegal border crossers started coming from Lacolle and the Liberal govt started focussing on them instead of skilled workers like me who are already working and paying taxes in Quebec. Also they were issuing CSQs without any regards to skills/merits but on a first come first serve basis. So a process which was taking 6 months grew to 1 or more years. This also increased the backlog at Federal level, currently its 22 months (thanks of CAQ govt for this, its another story)

So finally and luckily I received CSQ in 2018 October (1 & half years) after much uncertainty and no communications from MIDI. I have seen a lot of people who got into Quebec because of this lottery system. They are now Uber drivers and delivery boys and many of them living on govt. benefits without any tax contribution. They say they do 'Cash only jobs'. They say Quebec is the best province to freeload. It really hurts to be on the short end of the stick when I see these freeloaders in Quebec in particular and Canada in general.

So yes, the Liberal govt. in Quebec was too liberal in attracting asylum & illegals (Media & govt. like to call them irregular in a politically correct way) in 2016 and issued more CSQs than the Federal system can handle and the backlogs continue to this day. Liberals got voted out by CAQ on an anti immigrant rhetoric. Cant blame the xenophobes who voted for CAQ in Quebec because they saw those scenes from Olympic village full of illegal border crossers.

Now CAQ wants to "fix" this broken lottery system and did what most lazy govt. do. Cancel everything and bring in a new system. They also cut the economic quota at Federal level by 20% (Canada Quebec Accord), so the waiting time at Federal increased from 11 months to 22 months currently. Liberals were the ones who started Arrima but CAQ took over and released the system. So Quebeckers who voted for CAQ were appeased. Little do they know that the system is not working yet as intended, after all who cares about future immigrants ? They are here to take their jobs right ?

In short, Quebec immigration dept. is least interested to fix/speed up these things and it will take a long long time. There is no incentive for Quebec's immigration dept to fix any of this. They are under no pressure to be transparent in any of their processes. Only an access to information act will reveal their inner workings. As we do not know the process of obtaining information from MIDI, we cannot know what is really happening inside this dept. without Access to Information methods. We can only know what is published in their website but I do think those are not necessarily followed. (immigration plans, processing times or service delivery commitments etc)

So if anyone is interested, here are the Access to Information letters they have published from their website. You can read those responses and arrive at a conclusion if MIFI is doing their job or not. You will get a lot of stats like how many CSQs were issued etc.
http://www.mifi.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/ministere/acces-information/Diffusion-Demandes-Acces-Documents_2020.pdf

Each one is on your own. If you have enough points, get out of Quebec and apply for Express Entry is my advice. Now if you ask me, inspite of all these, why I didnt go for Express Entry ? Its only because I like my employer and the job thats the reason I stay in Quebec. I had enough points for Express Entry in 2016 itself !

Now lets talk about Canada Quebec Accord, many do not know that there is quota limit at Federal stage even after receiving your CSQ be it PEQ or Regular, this quota affects your processing time for PR. CAQ govt has cut this quota by 20% and it increased the processing time from 11 months to 22 months now. Keep this in mind. You are not out of the danger zone yet even if you get a CSQ. Thats why I advice everyone to go for Express Entry if you have points. Now with COVID-19, CAQ's Legault will have to appease Quebeckers, he will be scapegoating future immigrants and skilled temporary workers like us for sure when this is all over. He will cut down CSQ issuances, will also cut Federal quota again.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/mandate/policies-operational-instructions-agreements/agreements/federal-provincial-territorial/quebec/canada-quebec-accord-relating-immigration-temporary-admission-aliens.html

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/mandate/policies-operational-instructions-agreements/agreements/federal-provincial-territorial/quebec/canada-quebec-accord-made-easy.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–Québec_Accord_relating_to_Immigration_and_Temporary_Admission_of_Aliens

CSQs Issued.



If anyone wants to know how many CSQ's were issued post Bill 9 and under what professions.
Here is the Access to Information PDF link for that.

http://www.mifi.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/ministere/acces-information/18210.pdf
Thank you for this info. You are good at research.

Sadely, I can feel how it is like to leave everything behind in U.S and to be on a contract with canadian government and not being able to choose better things.
And I am so sorry that you are going through lot of hardships and suffering from this cruelty and negativity.

You've a Good luck fellow applicant.
 

Jo123456

Star Member
May 13, 2020
56
19
Yesterday I was frustrated just about anything and everything Quebec immigration and today I see CSQ approved from them :)

Have to say "Patience is a virtue"

I was worried about the Photo size though as I did not send Canadian Passport size but the CSQ document just has a number and no photo in it so "size does not matter" in this case I guess :D
Congratulations Lazymon82

I see from day of Arrima invitation (17 July) that you are not Bill Victim , right ? & what is your Noc ?
 

Jo123456

Star Member
May 13, 2020
56
19
Hey guys , just so you all stay motivated and positive , i received my CSQ today . Following is my timeline :

Single Applicant
NOC : 5241
arrima invitation - 16th july
Mon Project Creation - 22 july
Mon docs received by govt - 22nov 2019
CSQ - 22 May 2020 .

If you see they are following 6 months timeline from the date they receive ur docs. Good luck to everyone , stay patient.
Congratulations gmxplode

Just to confirm from day of invitation (July 17), you are not Bill 9 Victim , right ?
 

Jo123456

Star Member
May 13, 2020
56
19
MIFI published a new document last week for the numbers of CSQ issued till march

http://www.mifi.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/ministere/acces-information/18749.pdf

They mentioned below which is not correct at all :-(

The average overall delay is 164 days, which is less than
ministry commitment. The treatment process has several
steps. In particular, the candidate has a maximum period of 60 days
to apply following the invitation. The candidate has
also an additional 30 days to pay his request. To these
periods, there are other delays attributable to the candidates. Remember
that the Department undertake to render a decision on the requests for
selection presented following an invitation within 6 months
(accumulated working days) from the date of payment of fees
or registration of the request when these are exempt
fees, but excluding delays attributable to customers (waiting for
information or documents to be received from customers)
 

Marhit5

Member
Feb 14, 2020
17
3
my friends. public organizations must provide verifiable and authentic information when requesting access to information. in the case of this letter, we are faced with two realities :
1- either the Minister of Immigration said and undertakes to process requests within 6 months of the invitation or payment or that the majority of us see his request far exceeds 6 months. so the immigration department has been obstructing and it's illegal.
2- the ministry lies by giving false information and it is also illegal. for me the situation is clear the ministry would not want to process our requests despite their commitment to deal with them in 6 months. my friends friends on monday i will try to speak with a lawyer to tell him about the possibility of a lawsuit against the ministry.
such a prosecution generates expenses and steps with the help of lawyer what do you think first and secondly if the lawyer accepts can we create a fundraising to pay for this collective action.

moreover if MIDI takes almost a year (August 2019- March 2020) to deliver 152 (10%) Csq imagine how long will it take to process 2000 files? the answer is 20 years in other words if the minister continues like this you would never have your csq



http://www.mifi.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/ministere/acces-information/18749.pdf
 

RK2017

Star Member
Feb 20, 2017
108
15
Montreal
Job Offer........
Yes
my friends. public organizations must provide verifiable and authentic information when requesting access to information. in the case of this letter, we are faced with two realities :
1- either the Minister of Immigration said and undertakes to process requests within 6 months of the invitation or payment or that the majority of us see his request far exceeds 6 months. so the immigration department has been obstructing and it's illegal.
2- the ministry lies by giving false information and it is also illegal. for me the situation is clear the ministry would not want to process our requests despite their commitment to deal with them in 6 months. my friends friends on monday i will try to speak with a lawyer to tell him about the possibility of a lawsuit against the ministry.
such a prosecution generates expenses and steps with the help of lawyer what do you think first and secondly if the lawyer accepts can we create a fundraising to pay for this collective action.

moreover if MIDI takes almost a year (August 2019- March 2020) to deliver 152 (10%) Csq imagine how long will it take to process 2000 files? the answer is 20 years in other words if the minister continues like this you would never have your csq



http://www.mifi.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/ministere/acces-information/18749.pdf
Hi.
What is your timeline. Please update in signature.